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Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:56 pm

I stumbled on quite an interesting subject today while watching Dutch TV. There was an ongoing discussion about how the Dutch perceive the Germans, with several experts on the matter giving their personal experiences and opinions. Not surprisingly (for anybody who has spend some interacting with Dutch people), the Dutch perception of Germans was moderately to extremely negative. More surprising however was that the most likely reason was not war-related: an expert who had studied subject told that there was a theory which states that people from smaller nations who have bigger nations with similar features as neighbors often harbour these kinds of feelings due to an inferiority complex. The comparison was also made with Canadian-American relations. This is a very interesting theory which explains a lot, but certainly not everything, so my question to you is:

How are people from your neighboring countries generally perceived in your home nation? What do you think are the most likely reasons for this positive/negative/neutral perception?
 
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:05 pm

Quoting Sabena340 (Thread starter):
the Dutch perception of Germans was moderately to extremely negative

I blame Kas for starting these negative remarks, we all know his hidden agenda.  Wink

Quoting Sabena340 (Thread starter):
a theory which states that people from smaller nations who have bigger nations with similar features as neighbors often harbour these kinds of feelings

We all know Kas has had this size "complex" for some time now.  Wink
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:06 pm

Quoting Sabena340 (Thread starter):
More surprising however was that the most likely reason was not war-related

Interesting conclusion. An acquaintence in Holland purposely gives wrong directions to anyone from Germany who asks for his help on the street, then mutters under his breath, "your father stole my father's bicycle." I was taken aback by that at first, but having not lived under similar circumstances, can't judge how he would feel.

Now, those Canadians! I wish they'd make their coins more different from ours! I'm always getting quarters with Her Majesty on them!  Wink
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:08 pm

I live in the German speaking part of Switzerland, close to the German border and I am a Swiss citizen with German ancestry.

The Germans are generally regarded as rather pushy and loud mouthed in Switzerland. The fact that they have pushed around the little southern neighbor several times (the overflight restrictions on the approach to ZRH or increased border controls come to mid), did nothing to improve their less than stellar image here. However, as Germany is by far our largest trading partner, people do their utmost to try to get along peacefully and mend fences whenever a rather vicious row has been settled. I would say that the relations between the two nations are very friendly ,but they have been strained badly by several issues in last few years and IMHO are thus worse than they have been at any other time in the last two decades.

Whereas the Germans are at times perceived to be a threat, the Austrians are regarded more or less as equals. One of the favourite pastimes here is telling jokes about Austrians.  Wink

My French and Italian speaking compatriots are better qualified to judge our relations with France and Italy, so I will leave those topics for them.
 
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:14 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2):
Now, those Canadians! I wish they'd make their coins more different from ours! I'm always getting quarters with Her Majesty on them!

If it has an animal on it, it's Canadian. And btw, you stole our coin sizes !!  Wink

Note i have a separate jar at home with American coins received from shopping. Last year i totaled $12 in US coins from transactions north of the border.
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:10 pm

I forgot to give you my answers. Keep in mind that perception is a personal thing and opinions differ even though I’ve tried to give you what I assume is the most common opinion.

The Dutch: The theory I mentioned above is more or less applicable to Belgo-Dutch relations; even though Dutch speaking Belgians share close cultural ties with Dutch people, the latter are often accused of being arrogant, loud and from time to time obnoxious. Nevertheless, I personally, do think we can learn a lot from the Dutch and can certainly appreciate their cut-to-the-chase attitude.
The Germans: Most Belgians meet quite few Germans, so their opinions are largely based on preconceptions and German state TV. Germans tend to be perceived in Belgium as cold people who like to keep their distance. It is sometimes said that the Germans are somewhat ‘untrendy’, a reputation which they thank mostly to those archaic variety shows on Sunday afternoon.
The French: Can count on a lot of respect when it comes to their gastronomy, but are also perceived as very stubborn and arrogant.
Luxemburgers: It’s very hard to form an image of this kind of hybrid peoples, especially when you’ve never met a real life specimen. My preconceived idea of Luxemburgers is that of dull, colourless people, similar to that which I assume most people abroad have about Belgian.
 
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:55 am

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 3):
My French and Italian speaking compatriots are better qualified to judge our relations with France and Italy, so I will leave those topics for them.

I live in the Italian speaking part of Switzerland. Here, Italians are also seen as pushy and rather rude. It's obviously a mis-conception, because most Italians are very nice people. But like in every nation, there are exceptions, and in the first years when there were Italian immigrants, they sort of enclosed themselves in ghetto-like regions - like Little Italy in New York, but in a more negative context. It's still like that even today, for small groups of them, and this helps feeding the negative image they sometimes get.

Mind you, I have nothing against Italians, I know many of them and we get along very well. I just can't stand this "isolating in a ghetto" thing, especially because Italians and italian-speaking Swiss speak, well, the same language!
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:17 am

I spend rather a lot of time living in Switzerland, in a town called Schaffhausen right near the German border. Generally speaking, I find the Swiss to be quite insular in the sense they dislike too many foreigners visiting and rather pedantic.

For instance, my girlfriends apartment has a garage underneath. After a month of parking her car, a neighbour decided to leave a note, complete with illustrations and instructions on how to park a car in a straight line. Nevermind the fact my girlfriend was within the lines, it was not satisfactory.

If he did that on my street in the U.K, it's quite possible it would cause an altercation. Funny thing is, the neighbour did not see it as being rude, he thought he was being helpful.

Other instances involve some neighbour knocking on our door at about 11pm to ask my girlfriend to sweep the laundry room as she was the last one to use it. WTF, it's not like we had left it in a state. We do try to be considerate of others, this particular woman was just very petty.

What I see as being extremely tactless behaviour, some Swiss view as being quite normal. It is a beautiful country, but as far as the customs go, I'd rather be back in Portugal where you can go out for a meal at 10 pm, enjoy an espresso and stay in a bar until late. The Swiss don't seem to understand the concept of entertainment.
 
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:23 am

Quoting Barcode (Reply 7):
I'd rather be back in Portugal where you can go out for a meal at 10 pm, enjoy an espresso and stay in a bar until late.

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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:58 am

Quoting Barcode (Reply 7):
a neighbour decided to leave a note, complete with illustrations and instructions on how to park a car in a straight line.

My brother's been in Switzerland for about 15 years. He's in Geneva now but when he was working in Bern he was looking for an article he'd already read in a newspaper and quickly flicking through it by just turning the corner of each page. Someone grabbed it from him, spread it out on a desk, started turning the complete pages and said "there, that's how you look through a newspaper". He was still staring in disbelief at the desk with his hands were they'd been holding the paper when someone else came in a couple minutes later!

On another occasion in Zermatt, he and someone else were eating a fondue. When they'd nearly finished the bread, they started talking about how they were looking forward to the crispy cheese that gets left on the sides. We'd noticed a couple at the table opposite whispering and giggling while looking at our table. Suddenly one of them got up and turned the flame out, and said, rather condescendingly, something like "it's OK, it's not your fault, a lot people don't know you have to do that to stop the cheese burning". Bloody cheek - they knew exactly what they were doing!

In fairness, that kind of thing didn't seem to happen very often but I felt obliged to share.  Smile
 
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:37 am

Quoting Barcode (Reply 7):
After a month of parking her car, a neighbour decided to leave a note, complete with illustrations and instructions on how to park a car in a straight line. Nevermind the fact my girlfriend was within the lines, it was not satisfactory.



Quoting David L (Reply 9):
Suddenly one of them got up and turned the flame out, and said, rather condescendingly, something like "it's OK, it's not your fault, a lot people don't know you have to do that to stop the cheese burning".

Barcode, David L, I am afraid you put your fingers on a very week spot in the Swiss-German national character.

The German speaking Swiss - this would most likely not have happened to you in the French or Italian speaking part of the country - sometimes feel that they have to put people whom they perceive to act inappropriately back in place. Because the Swiss are generally quite direct and do not tend to sugarcoat their statements or actions, you end up with the unfortunate and embarrassing episodes that you experienced.

One factor that might promote this behaviour - and I am guessing here - might be the compuslory military service where you are trained to detect and correct mistakes made by your fellow soldiers to improve the performance of the unit.
 
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:42 am

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 10):
this would most likely not have happened to you in the French or Italian speaking part of the country

My brother certainly hasn't mentioned anything like that since he moved to Geneva!

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 10):
the compuslory military service where you are trained to detect and correct mistakes made by your fellow soldiers

I've done some part-time military service and I was able to distinguish between helping my fellow soldier and butting in on a complete stranger. The thing is, he knows a lot of Swiss-Germans who've done Swiss military service and they don't interfere. Mind you, the way some of them treat their weapons when they're travelling would have got us a swift kick up the backside if not a night in the clink!

As I said, it was only a few instances and I only mentioned them because Barcode's tale jogged my memory. I'm obliged to accept it, anyway, it since I visit a couple of times a year.  Smile
 
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:56 am

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 3):
The fact that they have pushed around the little southern neighbor several times (the overflight restrictions on the approach to ZRH

PUSHED AROUND?!?!? You probably got 1/10th of the bitching that's going on about FRA and how it's a terrible danger to just about everything excluding unemployment, and you still feel pushed around?

Well, we're the big one anyway... so we'll have to live with that.
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:02 am

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 3):
One of the favourite pastimes here is telling jokes about Austrians.

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Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:04 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 12):
PUSHED AROUND?!?!? You probably got 1/10th of the bitching that's going on about FRA and how it's a terrible danger to just about everything excluding unemployment, and you still feel pushed around?

I am the first to admit that Switzerland in general and the canton of Zurich did not involve the stakeholders living in southern Germany enough for a very long time and thus they share some of the blame for the current situation.

Nevertheless, the way the German federal government acted in this situation by unilaterally imposing restrictions that are questionable at best and illegal at worst under international law (I am sure you are aware that ZRH is suing the German government over this), angered my here considerably.

Considering German history this was not a smart move by Berlin to say the very least.
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:13 am

Being from the US, I can never tell if some one is Canadian or American until they open their mouth- the only thing that gives it away is the accent.

To me Canadians are a peaceful bunch that don't cause problems (other than driving at kph speeds on our mph highways).

I like Canadians a lot. I am sure they may see us very differently however, when I traveled through Canada I was never treated with anything but respect and kindness.
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:52 pm

We've visited Lugano, Locarno etc and found the people to be more welcoming. Maybe that's because we were in a tourist resort, I don't know, but it was a refreshing change. Same thing in Lausanne even, could have been the holiday mood lol.

I try not to get annoyed by these incidents, it's just when they happen I'm literally left speechless and have to remind myself it is normal for them. If somebody had told me how to read a newspaper, I might have turned into a right Chav and yelled obscenities at them.

Curious that military service would be compulsory, the country is neutral for chrissake. My gf and I joke about the bomb shelter in our block of apartments. I think it's actually in the lease that we have to keep it stocked with basic items in the event of an emergency.

What also contributes to the insularity, I'm going to suggest, is that very few of them feel the need to speak another language. Swiss-German and high-German sound very different and have different spellings, so the Swiss in the North might well find it easier to stay close to their home town with what is familiar. In this way, they are like many English I am embarrassed to say, in some cases, I have heard better English from some foreign people than the English I hear at home!

The problem is, this might limit employment prospects. For instance, my girlfriend works for a multinational who have a plant in Schaffhausen. Speaking English as well as German is part of the job. My gf had the skills and wanted to move from Portugal for the experience, so it worked out better to actually hire an outsider than a local with minimal English skills.

On the positive side - the cliche about Swiss efficiency is true. Public transport runs on time. Also, the towns are super-clean, people seem to have respect for the environment. I have yet to see a run down building in the town and have not seen graffiti splashed over every surface like here in the U.K. We could also learn a lot from their recycling schemes - like having a monthly paper collection, being made to seperate food from ordinary household waste etc.

The Swiss are not all bad  Wink
 
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:42 pm

Ode to being an island.... I told everyone once, i'll say it again...

"CONTINENTS ARE FOR PU55YS!!!!"

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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:51 pm

Quoting Barcode (Reply 16):
My gf and I joke about the bomb shelter in our block of apartments. I think it's actually in the lease that we have to keep it stocked with basic items in the event of an emergency.

In Bern his neighbours kept reminding him of this requirement. Next time I was over he gave me a tour of the basement. We walked past room after room filled with folding beds, portable stoves, batteries, blankets, and hundreds of tins and packets of food. Then we came to his "shelter". There in the middle of one of the huge shelves was... one small tin of baked beans. One of the neighbours had threatened to "call the authorities" if he didn't take it more seriously!

Quoting Barcode (Reply 16):
and have not seen graffiti splashed over every surface

It's not as bad as in the UK but there's plenty around in some areas, especially near the railway or the anarchist hangouts. Ever seen the "ZU REICH" painted on the roof of a building in Zurich (do you see what they've done?  Smile).
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:41 pm

State wise, Louisiana and Oklahoma are giant speed traps. I really like New Mexico and the people are very friendly. Haven't been to Arkansas enough to comment.

Country wise, I've never been to Mexico so cannot comment on it. Canada is great, though. Spent close to a week up in Quebec a few years back and absolutely loved it. The people were friendly and helpful, always had something nice to say. Although one of the nice French-Canadian people at the hotel made me laugh with one of her questions. She said that she had been down to Arkansas recently and kept hearing about these people who have red necks. She was wondering how do you identify these people who have red necks? Great place up near Lake Memphremagog.

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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:30 am

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 17):
"CONTINENTS ARE FOR PU55YS!!!!"

Thus proving Barcode's point Big grin :

Quoting Barcode (Reply 16):
I have heard better English from some foreign people than the English I hear at home!
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:03 am

Quoting Barcode (Reply 16):
I think it's actually in the lease that we have to keep it stocked with basic items in the event of an emergency.

Until very recently very strict requirement regarding shelters were included in the building codes. Now they have been relaxed somewhat as we don´t expect a soviet missile attack on short notice any more.  Wink

Quoting Barcode (Reply 16):
I'm going to suggest, is that very few of them feel the need to speak another language. Swiss-German and high-German sound very different and have different spellings, so the Swiss in the North might well find it easier to stay close to their home town with what is familiar. In this way, they are like many English I am embarrassed to say, in some cases, I have heard better English from some foreign people than the English I hear at home!

I disagree with you on this point: Every Swiss has to learn one or two foreign languages at school. In quite a few cantons French and English are even being taught in primary school. Because Switzerland is such a small country with such a small domestic market, it is very dependent on trade with other nations. This requires language skills. I would argue that the average Swiss speaks more foreign languages than the average German, French or Italian.
 
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:53 am

Oh God! Where do I start? It's almost official policy here to "hate the Brits", particularly in pub culture when England are playing football, yet the same people will follow individual UK teams (particularly Man U and Liverpool) with a passion. I've yet to get my head around this. I'm told it's down to the jingoism of the UK football commentators when England are playing, but I wouldn't know as I'm not a football fan.

The entire country watches UK TV, which isn't surprising as it's so much better than our own, and they glue themselves to crap programmes such as Coronation Street and X Factor.

Probably everybody in the country could name the ten highest profile royals, and all their goings on are followed religiously.

Brits who come to live in Ireland assimilate themselves probably better than any other nationality, so on a personal level we tend to get on well. Indeed I have some fantastic English and Scots friends.

The thing that pisses me off most about the UK is the rigidty of the class system. Not that we haven't got one here, but it's just not nearly as bad.
 
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:08 am

Australians.....Big, Brash and not afraid of dangerous creatures.

Antarcticans...Smell of fish and can't fly.

Hmmmm, that's about it really, unless you want to talk about Chatham Islanders.
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:13 am

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I would argue that the average Swiss speaks more foreign languages than the average German, French or Italian.

That's quite possible. I know in our canton, English is not taught to young children. And whether we like it or not, it's pretty much a requirement for many jobs with multinationals.

The English I hear when I visit is generally very, very poor. I'm not complaining, since I'm the one who needs to adapt, not vice-versa. I'm just saying that somebody who visits our town expecting to hear coherent English is likely to be disappointed.

It can be a problem for me, as I am deaf so find learning a new language very very difficult. I am just about coping with Portuguese (my partner is Portuguese). So I have to rely on my gf in restaurants, whilst out shopping etc. We're only going to be there for perhaps another year or two, so I can't justify the effort to learn the language when I have several other committments.

It is a beautiful country with a very high standard of living, unfortunately, we find it pretty dull in terms of things to do. To me, the weekends are when things get done, but the Swiss will complain if you wash your car, do your laundry on Sunday's etc. All the rule following can become a bit tedious after a while.
 
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:15 am

Quoting Barcode (Reply 24):
All the rule following can become a bit tedious after a while.

Indeed. It's a spectacular country, but after my last visit there I really wanted to kick over a few dustbins. . .
 
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:07 am

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 23):
Australians.....Big, Brash and not afraid of dangerous creatures.

Oh FFS. Big and brash? Absolutely. Not afraid of dangerous creatures? I have never EVER seen a dangerously lethal snake, spider or marine creature that hasn't been in a zoo. Most Australians would squiel like little girls if they saw some dangerous creature. Jafa, my friend - you have been taken in.

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Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:35 am

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 22):
It's almost official policy here to "hate the Brits", particularly in pub culture when England are playing football, yet the same people will follow individual UK teams (particularly Man U and Liverpool) with a passion. I've yet to get my head around this. I'm told it's down to the jingoism of the UK football commentators when England are playing

Very similar to the way a lot of Scots view the English. I'm surprised one GKirk hasn't made a contribution!
 
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:17 pm

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 26):
Jafa, my friend - you have been taken in.

Bugger...........You'll be telling me Holdens are rubbish next  Wink
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:18 pm

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 28):
Bugger...........You'll be telling me Holdens are rubbish next

Holdens are rubbish.
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:42 pm

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 23):
Australians.....Big, Brash and not afraid of dangerous creatures.

Damn right - especially not afraid of New Zealanders LOL.

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 26):
Most Australians would squeal like little girls if they saw some dangerous creature.

Most capital city Australians perhaps. But having lived in the coastal outback for many years, it was a regular occurrance for the cats to bring their prize trophies of snakes into the house; to see a distant shark fin while swimming (not nice) and to have kangaroos with a death-wish hurl themselves in front of the car on almost a daily basis. Haven't squealed like a girl once! Uttered a few choice oaths, though.

As for neighbors - we dont have any close ones. East coasters have New Zealand and the Pacific islands, whereas in the west, we have Indonesia, and, on a clear day, South Africa. No wonder we can be a bit insular. Perceptions of Bali and Indonesia are a bit changeable just now.
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:47 pm

Quoting TNboy (Reply 30):
Uttered a few choice oaths, though.

Seriously - what's with the Steve Irwin stuff?

Why are you talking like this?

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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:43 am

Quoting David L (Reply 27):
Very similar to the way a lot of Scots view the English

I love winding-up my Scots friends when I go to Glasgow. Every now and again I'd say something like "Is this the way you do that in England?", to which I'd get the standard reply "Yer nought in Engeland now, yerrin Scoatland"
 
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Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:23 am

Quoting Sabena340 (Thread starter):
How are people from your neighboring countries generally perceived in your home nation? What do you think are the most likely reasons for this positive/negative/neutral perception

Although things seem to be Improving.But then The Wounds are very very deep.
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:30 am

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 10):
Barcode, David L, I am afraid you put your fingers on a very week spot in the Swiss-German national character.

The German speaking Swiss - this would most likely not have happened to you in the French or Italian speaking part of the country - sometimes feel that they have to put people whom they perceive to act inappropriately back in place. Because the Swiss are generally quite direct and do not tend to sugarcoat their statements or actions, you end up with the unfortunate and embarrassing episodes that you experienced.

One factor that might promote this behaviour - and I am guessing here - might be the compuslory military service where you are trained to detect and correct mistakes made by your fellow soldiers to improve the performance of the unit.

I would like to know how the Swiss in Zurich would feel if someone from another country caught them making a mistake and corrected them! Would they be upset or would they show no reaction? I've seen Swiss-Germans acting this way myself and have had more experiences than I'd have time to talk about, including a not-very-friendly run-in with the f*cking cops. I'm sure it was an altercation that would NOT have happened to a native Swiss-German. Don't ask me why but that's how I felt about it. The altercation was very rude and unnecessary. It made me so angry that I am not going to even discuss it so please don't ask me to. I did write the f*cking cop's license plate number down for future reference in case he does step over the line next time I bump into him.
 
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:48 am

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 32):
to which I'd get the standard reply "Yer nought in Engeland now, yerrin Scoatland"

And yet yet they (we) are quite happy to call an Aussie a Kiwi, just for a laugh!
 
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Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:51 am

Quoting Swisskloten (Reply 34):
I would like to know how the Swiss in Zurich would feel if someone from another country caught them making a mistake and corrected them! Would they be upset or would they show no reaction?

I would guess that most Swiss would be silent if something like this happened to them abroad.

BTW I think your "cop experience" is not that unusual. I think a certain type of cop everywhere likes to pick on unsuspecting foreigners. I had a very unpleasant experience a few years back in Weld county, Colorado when I got stopped in a rental car with temporary Nevada licence plates. The guy treated me as if were OBL just because the car did not have any plates in front (required in CO but not NV) and just a temporary registration. It took more than half an hour to convince him that this was a rental car and that everything was in order. On the other hand I have also had quite few friendly or should I rather say professional encounters with cops in the US (mostly when stopped for speeding in Montana at the time when the limit there was still "prudent and reasonable"  Smile that were quite OK.
 
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:33 am

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 29):
Holdens are rubbish.

Ha ha! We agree on something then!  Wink
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:37 am

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 31):
Seriously - what's with the Steve Irwin stuff?

Why are you talking like this?

Don't ever mention Steve Irwin in my immediate vicinity again!! And what do you expect me to say when a fully grown roo misses hurtling into the windscreen by a nanosecond?? Especially when it happens on a semi-regular basis. Let alone being confronted by a writhing snake on the doorstep. I'm back in civilisation now, but it was an interesting few years.
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:08 am

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 17):
Ode to being an island.... I told everyone once, i'll say it again...

"CONTINENTS ARE FOR PU55YS!!!!"

I hate you too  Silly

Come to think of it, I don't know if the part of denmark I live on can be considered a part of the continent... :/ Either way...

GERMANS: Provide us with great taxfree shopping! I love you! Big grin (on a more serious notice: can't find anything I don't like about germans or Germany...)

SWEDES: Despite some grudge between danes and swedes (which danes seem to show more) due to a war and the fact that a lot of swedish people enjoy going to denmark to get drunk because we have cheaper alchohol, I love Sweden. I have lots of swedish friends, and there's no way I can imagine that all swedes are like the "beloved" *coughcough* drunks that visit from time to time... of course they aren't.

So I'm pretty relaxed when it comes to my neighbors... I like them all  Wink

I think the reason for negative perception is people who hold grudges once they meet ONE rude/annoying person- ie: You meet one drunk russian, you hate them all, despite the fact that you know that all russians aren't like that.
Just my opinion...  Smile
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:19 am

Quoting Jap (Reply 39):
You meet one drunk russian, you hate them all, despite the fact that you know that all russians aren't like that.

Janni - just come to the US - choose a city and you'll find a great disparity. In general, southerners are more cordial, and northerners are more private. But talk about music or poetry, and...(insert GuitrThree rant here)...well, we northerners like to think we are superior. Let me tell you, I have never met a more friendly set of people than those I met in ATL in September. We Bostonians have our good points too; I just can't think of any right now.  Wink

(your picture is very captivating, BTW).
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RE: Your Perception Of Your Neighbors

Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:44 am

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 40):
Janni - just come to the US - choose a city and you'll find a great disparity.

No doubt! I wasn't expressing my own opinion, just what seems to be the way things work (unfortunately). I simply don't understand how some dutch people can say that they dislike germans (like the person who started this post wrote) or danes can say that they dislike swedes (and vice versa) as they've probably only met a limited amount of these people. But it seems to be the way it works...

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 40):
(your picture is very captivating, BTW)

Thank you  Smile
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