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Have You Been In Combat?

Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:22 pm

To all:

I saw somrthing recently about US combat veterans and demographics. Not surprisingly, numbers of WW2 veterans are in steep decline as most of these men are now in their 80's(my father, who survived a tour as a B17 crewman, died a number of years ago  crying  as have all of my uncles who fought in WW2).

That said, Korean War veterans have now reached the point in their lives where they are beginning to pass away in increasing numbers(they have now entered their 70's) while Vietnam vets are now in their 50's(like me) or their 60's.
Since most of the folks who participate here tend to be younger, I was curious as to how many of you out there did actually fight.

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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:27 pm

Yes . . . . Desert Storm . . . . in the turret of an Abrams tank.

A few adventures in South America . . . here and there . . .

Quoting F4N (Thread starter):
US combat veterans and demographics.

If you've ever been the the Hale Koa Hotel in Honolulu - and what GI hasn't - and been the the Luau there the former headliner at the Hale Koa Luau, Mr. Danny Couch, used to have all the veterans stand . . . WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf . . . my first trip there in the early 1990s, there was always one, perhaps 2 WW1 vets there. And of course a dozen or two WW2 vets. I've seen in recent years, no more WW1 vets, and fewer and fewer WW2 vets.

Salute to them all, definitely members of the Greatest Generation.

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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:34 pm

Yes-with several customers over the last 18 years in the airline business.  Big grin
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:38 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
my first trip there in the early 1990s, there was always one, perhaps 2 WW1 vets there. And of course a dozen or two WW2 vets. I've seen in recent years, no more WW1 vets, and fewer and fewer WW2 vets.

ANCFlyer:

Interesting point. I saw on Yahoo news recently that Australia's last surviving
WW1 combat vet passed away at 106! How many of these men can possibly be left anywhere?

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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:47 pm

Yes. Vietnam.
1276 hours of combat flying time in 348 days, but who's counting?
That plus the usual: Being mortared. Coming under fire in a vehicle between airfield and town. Isolated in a downtown hotel during Tet '68 and feeling pretty lonesome.

In Honduras during the Soccer War in 1969 but not really in combat.

Couple of minor (and one-sided) firefights here in the US of A during a mis-spent youth.
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:24 am

Thank God I haven't. I didn't do (compulsory) military service either, but instead went for civilian service which in my case probably ended up being a harder job than the one many recruits have to do.
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:28 am

Depends on how you define Combat...

I've been shot at (by a malfunctioning RPG in Bosnia) but I don't consider it combat since I didn't shoot back (couldn't see a target). Besides my pal and I were magnificently armed with a M9 plus 2 extra magazines each!  Smile. Not questioning instructions at all, we hotfooted it out of there and called the RRF.
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:32 am

My father has. Bosnia-Herzegovina, he was there for 6 months. As I was very young back then, so I didn't quite understand what was going on, thanks god.

He's going to kosovo in febuary, once again for 6 months. Thankfully, he's only there to keep up the peace, not to fight  Smile
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:37 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 2):
Yes-with several customers over the last 18 years in the airline business

With your communications skills Falcon? What a surprise.
 
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:43 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 4):
1276 hours of combat flying time in 348 days, but who's counting?

There's nothing like putting a 'C' in the logbook. Counts for alot I think.

I'm a OIF vet still serving in active duty and I'm supposed to be going back to Iraq about a year from now. I have flown 753 combat hours (500 CPG / 250 PC) in 18 months there as a Longbow pilot. I arrived just after the innitial push so they say optempo slowed down, didn't seem that way to me though. I don't think anything in my life will compare to the thrill of flying an attack helicopter in combat.
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:39 am

Never in combat, but have flown into warzones, Afghanistan, Iraq, southern Philippines. But haven't been in the field of battle. I did drive through Compton, CA, does that count?
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:43 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 5):
but instead went for civilian service which in my case probably ended up being a harder job than the one many recruits have to do.

Apparently you had the wrong "Zivildienststelle".

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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:07 am

US Army..Central America (Panama, Honduras), Southwest Asia (Iraq), and I really pissed my mother off once when was 11 and I punched a hole in a wall at the house (terrifying, actually).

Quoting F4N (Reply 3):
Interesting point. I saw on Yahoo news recently that Australia's last surviving
WW1 combat vet passed away at 106!

Was he the last WWI vet or the last RAN vet from WWI? That would explain the state funeral.

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 4):
1276 hours of combat flying time in 348 days, but who's counting?

I'll bet you knew how many days short you were.....  Wink

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 4):
In Honduras during the Soccer War in 1969 but not really in combat.

We'll have to talk about that the next time I'm in your neck of the woods. I met a guy who said he flew Corsairs for Hondo during that war, he was a rather old Colonel in their AF in '87.

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 6):
ve been shot at (by a malfunctioning RPG in Bosnia) but I don't consider it combat since I didn't shoot back (couldn't see a target).

That counts. Anytime some asshole is shooting at you it's combat. If you can't see the guy it makes it really scary combat. How did the RPG malfunction?

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 10):
I did drive through Compton, CA, does that count?

on Friday nights and after sporting events where money was on the line....
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:16 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 12):
I really pissed my mother off once when was 11 and I punched a hole in a wall at the house

That was when you were in the most danger, no doubt.  Wink

I salute all of you guys. Agree or disagree with motives and all that stuff, you did what you were asked to or volunteered to do. Thanks, from the bottom of my heart.

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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:25 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 12):
met a guy who said he flew Corsairs for Hondo during that war, he was a rather old Colonel in their AF in '87.

Bet he didn't fly them for very long. I remember them being spotted around the ramp at Tegucigalpa with .50cals in sandbag revetments between them - and all in a giant puddle of oil. They did fly some missions, but the age of the planes and engines was the high-scoring ace of that war.

Did hear that the Corsairs had a pretty good kill ratio over the Salvadorean P-51s but didn't see any real evidence of it.

Also heard that Honduras may have had some "ringer" Corsair pilots - leftover aces from WW II and Korea as mercenaries. That would be an interesting story.
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:28 am

Slammer...I'll email you the article from Air Enthusiast from a couple months ago. You'll like it.

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 14):
Also heard that Honduras may have had some "ringer" Corsair pilots - leftover aces from WW II and Korea as mercenaries. That would be an interesting story.

I heard that too.

Salvador got the ass end of that little war. Both sides were flying Corsairs, and the Hondurans had a couple of those Piper modified Mustangs. The queen of battle there was the 'B'C-47 bomber. I think I jumped out of that in the 80's.....
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:57 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 12):
How did the RPG malfunction?

By not detonating.  Smile Wouldn't have mattered if it did, the shooter was drunk and led our vehicle too much + with too much elevation. Still it got our attention and we didn't stick around.

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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:25 pm

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 16):
Still it got our attention and we didn't stick around.

 rotfl  I'll bet!

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 16):
"There’s nothing quite as exhilarating as being shot at and missed." --Winston Churchill

Precisely the quote I was going to use..... and he knew..
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:30 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 11):
Apparently you had the wrong "Zivildienststelle".

Quite the opposite.  Wink The kids were cool!

Besides, I wouldn't be studying medicine without the experiences from "Zivildienst".
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:39 pm

To the veterans of combat: You guys--MEN-- are really brave. Like John said, motives aside, thank you for your service.
 
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:11 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 18):
Besides, I wouldn't be studying medicine without the experiences from "Zivildienst".

I was also thinking about studying medicine after my "Zivildienst" but unfortunately I had only a "Fachabitur" (Abitur für Arme  Wink), so I started studying economics.

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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:46 am

After I finished my military service I received a letter from the Swedish armed forces, and they wondered if I was interested in going to Kosovo or Afghanistan with the Swedish UN troops. I was kinda interested in the beginning, but after some consideration I turned down the offer, and I am glad I did.

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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:06 am

My experience isn't really a fighting one but I did take part in a passive way. A while ago there were mortar attacks on the Golan Heights where I serve. Dozens were shot by the Hizbullah on the posts around the border. The whole area was in action. I serve in a combat unit of the Field Intelligence Corps. I don't fight but I am in the front line collecting intelligence.

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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:19 am

Quoting Asbg (Reply 22):
I am in the front line collecting intelligence.

Then what are you doing on a.net ? There's no intelligence here (isn't it obvious ?)
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:35 am

Quoting F4N (Thread starter):
Have You Been In Combat?

Yes.
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:38 am

I am in regular combat with my sergeant major.
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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:39 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 25):
I am in regular combat with my sergeant major.

 bigthumbsup 

We're pretty good at that, eh!

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RE: Have You Been In Combat?

Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:42 am

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 24):
Yes.

I get it. If you say any more, you'll have to kill us all, right ?

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 25):
I am in regular combat with my sergeant major.

Where did you get a sergeant-major from ? Have you joined the fascist military-industrial complex ? Bad kharma !!
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