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Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:58 am

When one thinks of countries spanning two continents, there are 2 obvious ones that spring to mind...Russia and Turkey...however, what about Egypt and the Sinai Peninsula? While most of Egypt is obviously in Africa, the Sinai seems to be somewhat of a grey area here...is there a case for Egypt to be considered a two continent country?



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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:02 am

Geographically the Sinai Peninsula is located on the Asian continent. So the answer to your question is, yes, Egypt is considered a two continent country.

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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:02 am

I'd say yes. Unlike Istambul and the Bosphorus, there is no clear demarkation between Africa and Asia, unless you use the Suez Canal as a border, even though it was man-made.

Further north, I believe the Ural mountains are the traditional dividing line.

Interesting question...

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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:04 am

Asia. if you look at it geologically, but Africa Geopolitically.

[Edited 2005-10-25 01:06:08]
 
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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:07 am

According to geography, which is what determines continents (not politics/government), it is Asia.
 
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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:23 am

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 3):
Asia. if you look at it geologically, but Africa Geopolitically.

Nice edit there Roley  Wink

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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:52 am

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 3):
Asia. if you look at it geologically, but Africa Geopolitically.

Why Africa geopolitically?

What is the difference between Egypt or Libya to Syria or Lebanon?
All 4 are Arab / Islamic countries and they have many more common things than uncommon.
What is the difference? (I didn't mention Jordan and Saudi Arabia because they are monarchy unlike the others).


P.S. Sinai is in Asia.

[Edited 2005-10-25 02:57:53]
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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:38 pm

Quoting Avi (Reply 6):
Why Africa geopolitically?

Because Egypt (geopolitically) is an African country. It is on the continent of Africa. Yes it has cultural and linguistic commonality with most of the people situated between the Euphrates and the Canary Islands, and this does colour its relationships with the world, but North Africa/Middle East isn't really an organised political grouping in the same way as the AU* or EU are. There is an Arab League, sure, but it is pretty divided between the pro- and anti-US camps.

(* OK not THAT organised, but it's a start).
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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:57 pm

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 3):
geologically, but Africa Geopolitically

"geopolitically" the Arab World belongs to neither Africa or Asia AND to both of them.  yes 

Quoting Avi (Reply 6):
What is the difference between Egypt or Libya to Syria or Lebanon?

not that much. You are right, it is politically and culturally and linguistically the same block

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 7):
North Africa/Middle East isn't really an organised political grouping in the same way as the AU* or EU are. There is an Arab League, sure, but it is pretty divided between the pro- and anti-US camps

the ARAB LEAGE of course IS an organized political grouping. Also the E.U. is "divided between the pro- and anti-US camps",  wave  but such political divisions are NOT an argument. And while Europe has a variety of languages, the Arab World simply has ONE main-language. The "division" between pro and anti US positions in practical reality is of far minor importance than the "division" between those who use English and those who use French as "international trade and traffic language". THIS "division" even influences the use of Arabic, so that you in Algiers buy a "bouteilla" while it is "soushasha" in Cairo !  duck 
 
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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:56 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 7):
Because Egypt (geopolitically) is an African country.

Specially, historically it`s an African country. (A bloody long history of 7000 years)

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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:35 pm

Quoting Oldeuropean (Reply 9):
an African country

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Geographically an "African country" but in real terms an "Arab country" --- which of course is NOT a contradiction but a matter of emphasis
 
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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:52 pm

Quoting Avi (Reply 6):
What is the difference between Egypt or Libya to Syria or Lebanon?
All 4 are Arab / Islamic countries and they have many more common things than uncommon.

Wrong, Lebanon is NOT a Muslim Country.


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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:44 pm

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 3):
Asia. if you look at it geologically, but Africa Geopolitically.

Political Geography does not look at specific countries or continents but entire regions. Which is why Egypt and Libya are considered a part of the Middle East.
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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:23 am

Quoting FOMEA (Reply 11):
Wrong, Lebanon is NOT a Muslim Country.

According to the CIA website 59.7% of the Lebanese are Muslims and only 39% are Christian.
( http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/le.html#People )

According to Yahoo Education the relation is even higher: 70%-30%.
( http://education.yahoo.com/reference/factbook/le/popula.html )

You can say that Lebanon is a Muslim country even if it has a big Christian minority.
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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:30 am

Sinai is on the west side of the great rift. If you were to deem that to be Asia don't you have to include all of eastern Africa that is on the east side of that rift.
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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:47 am

Quoting Avi (Reply 13):
According to the CIA website 59.7% of the Lebanese are Muslims and only 39% are Christian.
( http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/le.html#People )

According to Yahoo Education the relation is even higher: 70%-30%.
( http://education.yahoo.com/reference/factbook/le/popula.html )

You can say that Lebanon is a Muslim country even if it has a big Christian minority.

Again, Any Elected president in Lebanon has to be Christian therefore, its not a Mulsim country..
BTW the muslim population is way more than that.

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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:04 am

Quoting Avi (Reply 13):
the relation is even higher: 70%-30%

all depends on which group (Druzes etc) you count on which side. The Sunnis have about 21%, the Shi'ites about 32% which makes up 53%. Apparently, Palestinians without Lebanese citizenship are NOT included. IF they ARE included, then there will be more Sunnis than Shi'ites. -- 7% are Druzes, 25% Maronite-Catholics, 7% Greek-Orthodox, 5% Greek-Catholic and 4% Armenians .

Quoting FOMEA (Reply 15):
president in Lebanon has to be Christian

true, BUT, in contrast to the days BEFORE 1975, the State President has lost a lot of his power, and now, the PRIME MINISTER is more powerful. --- Another point is that more than 10% of the Egyptian population are Christians, which means roughly 8 to 10 millions, so that in YOUR definition, Egypt would NOT be a Muslim country either.
 
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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:14 am

Avi and ME AVN FAN,
The difference between the Christians of Lebanon and the Christians of Egypt (or those of any other Arab country) is huge: The Christians of Lebanon have a voice, they have fought and died and refused to be 'subjects' to an Islamic/Palestinian/Arab nation. They have given tens of thousands of martyrs in order for their grand grand sons to be able to, one day, walk on the street and not be ashamed because their name is Jean or George or Michael (unlike the Chaldeans in Iraq who are afraid/ashamed to name their kids Marie or Patrick). They have sacrificed their sons so that their grand grand sons in 100's of years to come will be able to be proud of their heritage, their history, their culture, their folklore and their customs (like drinking Arak which is 70% alcohol without having to hide it).
The Christians of Lebanon struggled in 1920 to create the country that we now know as Lebanon; without them Lebanon would have been part of Syria. Up until today, the honest and righteous Christians still reject that their fate be attached to that of Syria or any other 'Arab' entity.
To solve your problem my friend, let me tell you that Lebanon is neither a christian nor a muslim country. Lebanon is a country where muslims and christians live together with EQUAL rights and where neither one strives to eliminate the other. This is what the civil war has taught us and no matter how the powers are distributed in the government, the people have learned that this country is for all of them and not for one culture without the other.

http://www.cedarland.org/

Not that it matters but For the record ..i am Shi'a Muslim.

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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:39 am

Quoting USAFHummer (Thread starter):
When one thinks of countries spanning two continents, there are 2 obvious ones that spring to mind...Russia and Turkey.

I don't know about Egypt, but there is at least one other not so obvious one. Most people do not realize that the USA is also located in two continents. Hawaii is part of Oceania and not North America.
 
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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:28 pm

Quoting VC10BOAC (Reply 18):
the USA is also located in two continents. Hawaii is part of Oceania and not North America

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but in all four cases the TWO continent thing is only of scientific interest, as Russia and Turkey are European countries, Sina� is part of Egypt and Egypt is an Arab country, and Hawaii is US-American and the USA is an American country.
 
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RE: Sinai Peninsula: Asia Or Africa?

Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:33 pm

Quoting VC10BOAC (Reply 18):
Hawaii is part of Oceania and not North America.

Oceania isn't a continent persay...and Hawaii's geologic history is fairly unique, since Hawaii is being formed by a hotspot, and as the Pacific plate moves over that hotspot, new land is created...I don't believe the Hawaiian hotspot is related in any way to the formation of the islands of Oceania...

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