Kohflot
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Portuguese Language Question

Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:25 am

I've wondered for a while now..

In the Portuguese language, when there's an O after an A with a tilde, is the O really pronounced as an N?

For instance, is Sao Paulo (with a tilde over the a in Sao) really pronounced San Paulo?
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RE: Portuguese Language Question

Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:31 am

Quoting Kohflot (Thread starter):
Sao Paulo (with a tilde over the a in Sao) really pronounced San Paulo?

Not exactly. The a with the tilde is pronounced like a nasalized "a" (the "a" sound moved to the back, behind the teeth)
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RE: Portuguese Language Question

Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:37 am

nope.
but I wouldn't really know how to show you what the correct pronounciation is. it's a nasal sound, where you pronounce something similar to the 'san' you are referring to, but you add an 'o' sound at the end..
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RE: Portuguese Language Question

Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:45 am

Try saying "ow" (as in "now"), but move it to the back, behind the teeth.
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RE: Portuguese Language Question

Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:12 am

From Mr. Harlot trying to teach me Portuguese, I can almost guarantee you that you will never be able to say it properly unless you learn how very young.  Smile The way I would try to pronounce it is like "sow", as in a pig, but with the "ow" very nasal. Probably isn't quite right but it's the best I can do.
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RE: Portuguese Language Question

Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:18 am

This sounds like rolling R's in the Spanish language.. something the rest of us just can't do very easily.. heh
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RE: Portuguese Language Question

Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:39 am

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 4):
The way I would try to pronounce it is like "sow", as in a pig, but with the "ow" very nasal. Probably isn't quite right but it's the best I can do.

That's how I pronounce it. Portuguese nasilization is very difficult to pronounce, especially when the only difference between two words - like vov� and vov� (grandma and grandpa) is a simple matter of open/closed vowel sounds. Nasalization in some other languages - like Hindi - is fairly easy for an English speaker - just pronounce the letter "n" softly after the vowel (like "kursiyaa'n", which means chairs in Hindi). In Portuguese, it gets more complicated than that.
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