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A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:34 pm

From time to time, I just need to know what people think of me, or us, in this case. For better or worse.

So what do you [non-Swedes] think about this Nordic country, where we ride polar bears in the city streets?

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:43 pm

Quoting Doona (Thread starter):
So what do you [non-Swedes] think about this Nordic country, where we ride polar bears in the city streets?

 laughing  No you are more civilized than that.

You drive Volvos and shop at Ikea.

It's other people who think Australia has Kangaroos in the main street.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:48 pm

Quoting BNE (Reply 1):
You drive Volvos and shop at Ikea.

We do, actually, drive alot of volvos, and all my furniture if from IKEA. Big grin

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:49 pm

Quoting Doona (Thread starter):
where we ride polar bears in the city streets?

 rotfl 

Same Climate and recreational activity, different grid square!  crazy  wink 

Sweden is awesome . . . . as is most of Europe . . . . my favorite thing about Sweden are the trains in the Alps . . . .

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:52 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
Sweden is awesome . . . . as is most of Europe . . . . my favorite thing about Sweden are the trains in the Alps . . . .

I see, how do you like our polar bears, then?

Aargh!  banghead 

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Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:57 pm

Quoting Doona (Thread starter):
Thoughts On Sweden?

That's where Swedish people are from.

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:58 pm

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 5):
That's where Swedish people are from.

Step up, we have a winner!

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Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:59 pm

Your Polar Bears are fine - but we don't need any more . . . we have our own. Here's a shot of one moseying up the Dalton Highway a winter or so ago . . . very lost as he was 140 miles from the Arctic Ocean . . . at least he's headed north in this photo. . . .

*Note Trans-Alaska Pipeline in the background. Noooo, I didn't get out of my unit to play with the bear . . .  crazy   wink 

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Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:05 pm

Well, I was once upon a time dating a Swedish Girl, and I received a very positive insight into the counrty that time.. ! Same my parents stayed in Scandinavia for some time.. remarkable is the fantastic English "proficiency" over there.. great nature and people, but against all platitutes not that tall, in my eyes! The city of Lund remains in wonderful rememberance for me.. I was there on a South Asia conference, lots of Indians.. it was funny in the sense that "Lund" in Hindi means "Cock", which was the running gag that 9 days Big grin
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:08 pm

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 8):
Well, I was once upon a time dating a Swedish Girl

Named Frank. Butch Frank. Frank with a tash. Still, you can't be a chooser, eh?  Silly
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:28 pm

Is Sweden cheaper( in general) , because Norway is a ripoff it costs the equivalent of £3.20 to buy a half liter of coke. Still a lovely country though. The girls are soooo much better than Scottish girls.
Same situation with girls in Sweden?( I hope so  Wink)

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Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:28 pm

Well as a Dane I really don't have any positive things to say about Sweden  Wink
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Oh and lets not forget Kräftskiva. That is an awesome party. hehe

No reall. Sweden is a wonderful country. But they do have some very rotten lousy laws though. hehe
 
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:38 pm

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 11):
But they do have some very rotten lousy laws though. hehe

Like what?

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:45 pm

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 11):
The only good things coming from Sweden is Saab, Volvo, Ikea, Mamma Scans' Köttbullar and Tunnbrödrullar
Oh and lets not forget Kräftskiva. That is an awesome party. hehe

In reply to that, the only good thing from Denmark are Røde Pølser!  bigthumbsup 

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:46 pm

Quoting TheSorcerer (Reply 12):
Like what?

You are not allowed to buy Alcohol in a supermarket. And you have to be 21 to buy liqour on System Bolaget. And its not possible to buy alcohol during thwe weekends either. Big grin
 
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:50 pm

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 14):

 Wow! That's shit.
Here in Scotland noone really cares about alcohol, they sell me alcohol in some shops, not only beer but vodka as well.(I'm 15)
My dad was over in trondheim on a business trip a couple of months ago and when word gets out that there is a party with free alcohol the place is packed and the norwegians are chucking the booze down. Here in Scotland pretty much noone shows up to these parties.

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:40 pm

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 14):
You are not allowed to buy Alcohol in a supermarket. And you have to be 21 to buy liqour on System Bolaget. And its not possible to buy alcohol during thwe weekends either.

Let's not give people the wrong idea, the age limit is 20 years old to buy alcohol at Systembolaget, which is open on Saturdays as well as weekdays. And, supermarkets are allowed to sell beer and cider if the alcohol percentage is lower than 3.5%, which you are allowed to buy if you're over 18. At that age you're also allowed into bars, where you can drink as much as you want to.

Now, I agree that the liquor monopoly is wrong, but Systembolaget has a great selection. And if what you're looking for isn't in stock, you can order pretty much anything. And the fact that I had to wait for two years after turning 18 until I could buy beer at Systembolaget sucks too, but living in Skåne meant that I had a ready supply of alcohol puchased in Germany, and Denmark! (Going to Denmark or Germany to buy hoards of booze is alot cheaper than buying the same amount at Systembolaget...)

TheSorcerer: About your question about relations between Norwegians and Swedes, we do like each other, deep down. There's alot of jokes about Norwegians being stupid, but I think our neighbours tell the same ones about us...

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:35 pm

Doesent Sweden have that kind of smokeless tobacco called snouse or something? If so, Sweden kicks ass!

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:56 pm

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 17):

You mean this?

http://www.home.no/griffin/snus.jpg
 
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:05 pm

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 17):
Doesent Sweden have that kind of smokeless tobacco called snouse or something? If so, Sweden kicks ass!

Yup, it's called snus, although, most of us prefer to take one at a time, instead of a hundred, as Eddie's done on the pic above. It's a little pouch containing tobacco, which you stick under your upper lip. This is illegal everywhere but Sweden and India, I think. I have no idea why, though...

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:11 pm

I remember an article a number of years ago in the Wall Street Journal on how people saw Sweden and their people. Two stereotypes were very common: 1) They have a high rate of suricide and 2) the women are all sexually active with a number of partners  biggrin 
But seriously, I have never been to Sweden (other countries seem to be cheaper to visit) but someday I would like to, and not just the southern cities. From what we know, Sweden has a very organized lifestyle, with great involvement and support of government in everyday life from education at all levels to health care to child care, yet not putting their 'nose into the bedroom' as to sex, considerable personal freedoms and strong commitment to peace and human rights. Sabb, Volvo, Ikea, Absolut Vodka and tall blond men and women may the outside symboys of Sweden, but there is a lot more that should be known to us outside of there.
 
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:13 pm

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:07 am

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 17):
Doesent Sweden have that kind of smokeless tobacco called snouse or something? If so, Sweden kicks ass!

I "snused" for more than eight years, but managed to quit earlier this year. I love the stuff though.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 20):
1) They have a high rate of suricide and

It is as sad as it is true. I think everyone here knows someone who have committed suicide.  Sad

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 20):
2) the women are all sexually active with a number of partners

Nope, that's the girls in "Sex and the city"  silly 
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:11 am

Quoting Matt27 (Reply 23):
It is as sad as it is true. I think everyone here knows someone who have committed suicide.

Really. I've heard that this was just a myth. Can anybody show me some statistics?
 
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:23 am

Sweden is one of the only two countries in the world where people pay even more income tax than us. The Danish are the other ones.



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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:35 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
my favorite thing about Sweden are the trains in the Alps

Say it ain't so!!  cry   hissyfit 
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Sweden? I'm sitting on an IKEA chair, my stuff is in an IKEA shelf, my PC monitor, printer and stereo have their places on an IKEA desk, I love most of the food you can buy at that IKEA food place and store, I want a Saab or a Volvo - whichever comes first - I love winter, I think cloudberries taste great, I devoured "Emil i Lönneberga" ("Michel aus Lönneberga" in German) as a child and I adore a swim in a clean lake. See?

Now if only there were fjords in Sweden... Fjords are better than that archipelago near Stockholm. I'm "pining for the fjords!"
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:55 am

Quoting EddieGunsmoke (Reply 24):
Really. I've heard that this was just a myth. Can anybody show me some statistics?

I haven't found any sources, but I heard on the radio that the main cause of death among teenagers here is suicide. Freaked me out...

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Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:37 am

Ok, so I found the top ten list on suicides. Sweden is not on it.

Rank Country Suicides per 100,000 inhabitants per year

1 Lithuania 42.0
2 Russia 37.4
3 Belarus 35.0
4 Latvia 34.3
5 Estonia 33.2
6 Hungaryk 32.1
7 Slovenia 30.9
8 Ukraine 29.4
9 Kazakhstan 28.7
10 Finland 24.3

Source: BBC

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:25 am

Strange place isn´t it, on the positive side is that Sweden isn´t an aggressive country, but rather spine-less. Downside is the socialist
left-over that clough up many things....
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:28 am

Summer in Sweden:

Midges. People know how to enjoy summer - they actually celebrate summer. Midges. Apparently, they either drive US American or Swedish cars. They have no idea how to brew some decent coffee. Flags everywhere. Midges everywhere. The time when I went to Ikea is fortunately over, but I like Volvos and Saabs, always did. Beautiful landscape but actually quite similar to Wendland or some other spots in Germany, just with more midges. Love those red Houses, but did I see grass roofs in Sweden or exclusively in Norway where there are even more midges?
Nice country, really.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
my favorite thing about Sweden are the trains in the Alps . . . .

Could it be that you are holding your map of Europe upside down?
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:51 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 9):
Named Frank. Butch Frank. Frank with a tash. Still, you can't be a chooser, eh?

You are just so stupid that you don't deserve any attention, not even from GKirk  Silly
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:54 am

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 31):
You are just so stupid that you don't deserve any attention, not even from GKirk

I don't deserve any attention from anyone... but you, it would seem. Says a lot about you, Mr!  Silly
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:10 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 32):
I don't deserve any attention from anyone... but you, it would seem. Says a lot about you, Mr!

You better don't waste your time here and write off your phD, you small candid teddy!  Silly
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:31 am

Quoting TheSorcerer (Reply 10):
PS what's the relation between the Swedish and the norwegians, no don't say their countries border, I mean how doc they get along?

It's pretty much like the relationship between the English and the Irish. We spilt up about 100 years ago but still get along with each other and we have our jokes.  Wink
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:37 am

I went to Stockholm and had a lot of fun involving two students so Sweden is great - and the flight only cost 20 pounds so I call that a "student bargain"....
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:37 pm

Quoting Doona (Reply 2):
We do, actually, drive alot of volvos, and all my furniture if from IKEA. 

About 1 in 5 new cars in Sweden is a Volvo

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 20):
I remember an article a number of years ago in the Wall Street Journal on how people saw Sweden and their people. Two stereotypes were very common: 1) They have a high rate of suricide and 2) the women are all sexually active with a number of partners   

Yeah, somehow point two seems to be a perception out there!

In regards to suicide, the official figures no longer support this view.
http://www.who.int/entity/mental_hea...icide/en/Figures_web0604_table.pdf
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/hea_sui_rat_mal

Sweden's not doing too badly on this measure, which is impressive considering what winter's like with sunlight! Mind you, the summer is great in regards to sunlight. The Government has launched an anti suicide program fairly recently though.

The origins of this suicide perception it is said, arose from US President Eisenhower's concern for how well the Swedish model was doing during the 1950s, declaring Sweden as the country of, "free love, high taxes and suicide", apparently the consequence of socialist policies Big grin
 
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:39 pm

For me, the sound "åå" is very Swedish.

Then there's precis (like the Germans love to say genau), javisst, jaha, jaså, förstås, osv  Smile
 
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:48 pm

Something that hasn't been mentioned - queuing tickets, the Swedes love to take these tickets and wait in queues.

Other very Swedish things

ICA
Tax
Pepparkakor (ginger snaps)
Great SAS Youth Tickets (SEK200 is bloody cheap to fly within the country, apart from Kiruna)
Personnummer (civil registration number - one seems to not exist without one of those)
Surströmming (eek!)
Systembolaget
Terrible Tea (you can tell Sweden is a coffee drinking country)
Beautiful nature, clean water, nice lakes & forests - good scenery up north/west coast too.
Cold, dark winters and great summers (it's never too hot and there's so much light)
Good looking girls  Smile

There's also Jäntelagen (even though it was written by a Norwegian/Dane, the Swedes seem to put in practise best Big grin)

"You shall not think that you are special.
You shall not think that you are of the same standing as us.
You shall not think that you are smarter than us.
Don't fancy yourself as being better than us.
You shall not think that you know more than us.
You shall not think that you are more important than us.
You shall not think that you are good at anything.
You shall not laugh at us.
You shall not think that anyone cares about you.
You shall not think that you can teach us anything."

I have to admit, I'm not a fan of the bloody jänte laws.
 
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:08 pm

Quoting Skystar (Reply 36):
The origins of this suicide perception it is said, arose from US President Eisenhower's concern for how well the Swedish model was doing during the 1950s, declaring Sweden as the country of, "free love, high taxes and suicide", apparently the consequence of socialist policies

Hehe, well, that actually worked back then. Everybody was happy. Now... not so much... worried 

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:19 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
Your Polar Bears are fine - but we don't need any more . . . we have our own. Here's a shot of one moseying up the Dalton Highway a winter or so ago . . . very lost as he was 140 miles from the Arctic Ocean . . . at least he's headed north in this photo. . . .
*Note Trans-Alaska Pipeline in the background. Noooo, I didn't get out of my unit to play with the bear

I'd love to visit Alaska, i have never seen any polar bears around here. Then again it is rarely that we even get any real winter with snow and freezing temps for more than a few days at a time here in the southern parts of sweden.

Quoting EddieGunsmoke (Reply 28):
Ok, so I found the top ten list on suicides. Sweden is not on it.

Rank Country Suicides per 100,000 inhabitants per year

1 Lithuania 42.0
2 Russia 37.4
3 Belarus 35.0
4 Latvia 34.3
5 Estonia 33.2
6 Hungaryk 32.1
7 Slovenia 30.9
8 Ukraine 29.4
9 Kazakhstan 28.7
10 Finland 24.3

As a Finnish Swede i knew that Finland has a high suicide rate (it's rooted in the sometimes harsh mentality of the Finns, especially among old fashioned and traditional men. At least this is how it used to be) but i was nevertheless surprised to see it as the only western country among all those ex soviet states. Maybe Finland bears more marks of the close proximity to the former soviet than i thought.
 
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:58 am

Quoting Skystar (Reply 38):
Great SAS Youth Tickets (SEK200 is bloody cheap to fly within the country, apart from Kiruna)

Too bad that they don't fly from my town. Have to fly crappy Skyways instead.  thumbsdown 

Quoting Skystar (Reply 38):
Personnummer (civil registration number - one seems to not exist without one of those)

GREAT!!!

Quoting Skystar (Reply 38):
Systembolaget

SUCKS!!!  thumbsdown 
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:28 am

My extended family is full of Bengt's, Björn's, Lars's, Jan's, Larsen's, Jönsson's, Bodén's, and the like. Thus, Swedish is spoken in my home on a regular basis (or when absolutely necessary, Danish and Norwegian) and all that I've picked up is jävla skit and jävla dumheter. It seems like a very odd language to me. I enjoy most of the food (especially Mazarins, so-called Sandwiches, and food at Christmas time), but then again some of the things you people do with fish  yuck  . Bilar suck and so does all your marzipan crap  Smile , and oh dear God where did you come up with Kalvies or Julmust (bad bad bad root beer-ish drink), and why are Lingonberries on everything? I enjoy the odd-trip to IKEA and listen to ABBA in the closet. Then again, you also have Sue Johanson against you.

To me the country seems too liberal from my secondhand experience, where one person with a successful farm is financially forced to emigrate to the U.S. whereas his sister gets "whiplash" in a Car Accident and gets a boob-job and trips to Mallorca and the Virgin Islands subsidized by the government.

Do all Swedes use the phrase "for a long time ago" or "for 3 days ago" when speaking English? Because it's starting to irritate every time I hear it.
 
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:40 am

Sweden is a great place, mainly because of Volvos, educational standards, tolerance, quality of life, appreciation for the outdoors and keeping them free for all people.
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:56 am

Haven't been there but here is what I think it is like anyway:

- Hot blonde women
- Cold weather
- Expensive
- Clean
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:04 am

Quoting Matt27 (Reply 23):
It is as sad as it is true. I think everyone here knows someone who have committed suicide.

How come Sweden has got such a high suicide rate?

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:13 am

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:24 am

In 1980s while growing up in India, for many years Sweden was synonymous with Bofors howitzers corruption scandal which rocked the country for almost a decade. I followed anything Sweden closely then and was shocked to read about murder of Prime Minister Olof Palme - astonished that a Prime Minister of a country casually walks home without any bodyguards at midnight! Bofors howitzers, however shutup all critics later when they proved their mettle during India-Pak 1999 conflict.

Sweden also is home of Nobel prizes and I know there are some good universities producing excellent engineers and scientists. I have worked with Swedish computer scientists who were wizards at tech but at the same time knew how to wind down at the end of the day.

At the same time I sometimes wonder - how can a country which advocates peace and has peaceful people/lifestyle have such a huge defense industry which exports arms and ammunition to whole world. You can see Swedish arms/explosives footprint in every other conflict happening all over the world. I understand at the end of the day it is all business, but one has to wonder how the money used for excellent social security net, healthcare comes from sales of arms and ammunition to third world countries resulting in hundreds of death. Not a criticism, just an observation.
 
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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:34 am

The impression I get of Sweden is very positive. The standard of living is high eventhough the tax rates are so high. However, in return the health and education systems are highly rated, and free.

I heard that Volvo actually invented the seatbelt, so we should really thank the Swedish if that is true.

I also imagine Sweden to be very clean and orderly. I imagine Swedish houses to be like the displays in Ikea, with alot of light-coloured wood furniture. I doubt anyone has anything negative to say about Sweden.

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RE: A.netters' Thoughts On Sweden?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:01 am

Quoting Lentigomaligna (Reply 42):
Do all Swedes use the phrase "for a long time ago" or "for 3 days ago" when speaking English? Because it's starting to irritate every time I hear it.

We use it when speaking Swedish, but alot of people here to seem to forget that Swedish and English are different languages. Alot of Swedes make grammatical mistakes in English that wouldn't be mistakes if they were spoken in Swedish.

Quoting TheSorcerer (Reply 45):
How come Sweden has got such a high suicide rate?

It's cold, dark, and we don't speak to each other very much.  worried 

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