duke
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Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:39 pm

I have read that it is a scientific fact that bumblebees can't fly! Explanation please?
 
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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:43 pm

www.goggle.com Bee a little proactive.
 
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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:45 pm

The usual aerodynamics are not applicable to something that size and the equations don't work.... basically.
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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:46 pm

According to some rule-of-thumb calculations about power-to-weight ratios and such the bumblebee would fall outside the viable envelope.

But since it apparently can in fact fly, those calculations seem to be somewhat incomplete...
 
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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:49 pm

Also the A380 would not fly according to some armchair A net aerodynamicists....so if the bumble bee can, why not a whale?

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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:35 pm

O.K., for some strange reason I like bumblebees; so don't say anything bad about them.  Wink

Wikipedia has an answer to the question.

"A long-held myth of the bumblebee was that, in terms of theoretical aerodynamics, it did not have the capacity (in terms of wing size or beat per second) to achieve flight with the degree of wing loading necessary. This myth became popular after an aerodynamicist in the 1930s stated that a bumblebee was not capable of flight. The statement was based upon an assumption that the bee's wing could be treated as a static aerofoil. However, in reality the bumblebee's flight is characterized by an oscillating wing that shares more characteristics with a helicopter rotor than an aeroplane wing."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumblebee

In other words, the bumblebee can fly but not in the sense of an airplane's aerodynamic; it's more like a helicopter.

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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:48 pm

Quoting Beowulf (Reply 5):
it's more like a helicopter.

Helicopters don't fly either. They are so ugly they repel the earth.
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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:20 am

Quoting KROC (Reply 1):
www.goggle.com Bee a little proactive.

Think you meant www.google.com KROC


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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:23 am

Thanks for the latest 'buzz' on the bumblebee. Facts that I could not live without....
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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:00 am

They may not be able to fly, but they are world-beaters when it comes to jumping.

One of them managed to jump backwards into my neck. I was northbound on a BSA motorcycle going about 80 mph. The bumblebee was either backing southbound or very slowly northbound. In any event, I hit him stinger-first just to the right of my Adam's apple. Most extraordinarly unpleasant.

That was the only time I've ever been stung by a bumblebee. They are very docile, inoffensive critters. They look menacing, but they are okay.
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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:30 am

Damnit,

The address that KROC posted has all sorts of crap on it.
 
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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:17 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 6):
Helicopters don't fly either. They are so ugly they repel the earth.

Technically, I believe it's the earth that repels them....  Smile

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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:29 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 9):
I hit him stinger-first just to the right of my Adam's apple. Most extraordinarly unpleasant.

I have had that once, unfortunately it was right in the middle of my throte, cant remember how old I was. Very painful indeed. Luckily I wasn't allergic or anything.
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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:53 am

Quoting Duke (Thread starter):
I have read that it is a scientific fact that bumblebees can't fly

Do the bees know that?

Which sort of reminds me.....

The world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make is taking a stroll down his local high street.

As he passes by the record shop, a sign catches his eye.

"Just Released: New LP - Wasps of the World & the sounds that they make - available now!"

Unable to resist the temptation, the man goes into the shop.

"I am the world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make. I'd very much like to listen to the new LP you have advertised in the window."

"Certainly, Sir," says the young man behind the counter. "If you'd like to step into the booth and put on the headphones, I'll put the LP on for you."

The world expert on European wasps goes into the booth and puts on the earphones.

Ten minutes later, he comes out of the booth and announces, "I am the world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make and yet I recognised none of those."

"I'm sorry sir," says the young assistant. "If you'd care to step into the booth, I can let you have another 10 minutes."

The world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make steps back into the booth and replaces the headphones.

Ten minutes later, he comes out of the booth shaking his head.

"I don't understand it," he says, "I am the world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make, and yet I still can't recognise any of those!"

"I'm terribly sorry, sir" says the young man, "perhaps if you'd like to step into the booth again, you could have 5 more minutes."

Sighing, the world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make steps back into the booth.

Five minutes later, he comes out again, clearly agitated.

"I am the world expert on European wasps and the sounds that they make and yet I have recognised none of the wasps on this LP."

"I really am terribly sorry," says the young assistant. "I've just realised I was playing you the bee side."
 
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RE: Bumblebees Technically Can't Fly?

Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:11 pm

Book I read years ago... I think it's part of a series, "Bees Can't Fly but they Do". Bunch of neat trivia that's not only about the aerodynamics of bees.

I could get you the author and whatnot, but "Wukkas are too Lazy".  Smile
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