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Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:22 am

So Beckett and Lowell are going to Boston and now it looks like Delgado is bound for KROC's Mets. Castillo, Pierre, and LoDuca are still being shopped around. Will they even have enough players to put on the field next year, at least that can play at a level above the Royals? The owner is trying to cut payroll down to about $40 million from their close to $60 million payroll of last year. Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

In other Marlins news, they might just be leaving South Florida within the next five years. Most likely possible destinations are: Las Vegas; Monterrey, Mexico; and Portland, Oregon.

What else could go on this offseason? The winter meetings kick off in a week and a half here in Dallas, so that is when we should expect more activity in the trade and free agent markets. Look for Texas to try and make a splash by dangling Blalock, Soriano, Mench, Nix, and Laird, as well as prospects Joaquin Arias and Adrian Gonzalez for just about anybody who can throw a ball off a mound.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:26 am

The Mets are making a huge mistake. This is a typical move for them, Delgado has the chance to turn out just like Mo Vaughn did.

Watch and see if he doesn't end up like the numerous other "stars" the Mets have acquired in the last 10 years.

Minaya is too quick to spend money. Big mistake.
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:32 am

I thought San Juan, Puerto Rico was also trying to get a baseball team. Or, did they give up after the Expos?

I heard somewhere that the Marlins are thinking of leaving Miami and that Portland will try, yet again, to get a team. I don't think the current mayor of Portland, Tom Potter, is as gung-ho about getting a baseball team as Vera Katz was. After the county tax for schools fiasco, (5 schools closed and they are collecting taxes for one more year) I seriously doubt anyone would want to fund a new stadium in Portland. The city council couldn't even get one of the richest tribes in the West to help fund a new stadium!

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:07 am

Quoting SYRGuy (Reply 1):
Minaya is too quick to spend money. Big mistake.

I agree with this to a point...Minaya when he was in prison errrrr the acting GM of the MLB owned Expos did a great job. With the Mets he actually has some payroll to work with. the Mets have a solid core of young talent. My boy David Wright, Jose Reyes, Victor Diaz, Matt Jacobs etc. They have a decent starting pitching staff and if they sign Billy Wagner (which is a GREAT move) then they will help shore up one of the worst bullpens in the majors. Picking up Molina to catch wouldn't hurt either. I hadn't heard about the Delgado move but think about it. Delgado had a very good year quietly in Florida. In a Graveyard of a ballpark too. Shea isn't exactly Coors Canaveral, but its better than Pro Player Stadium. Add along with Delgados bat his team leadership, good attitude and solid play and it sounds worth while to me. Especially over Doug Manhoweveryouspellhisnamewick. Saying Delgado could be another Mo Vaughn sounds like a bitter Braves Fan who knows he is about to lose Furcal and doesn't see any upgrading moves in the Bravos future. Vaughn was coming off basically 2 years without playing because he was hurt and he was washed up. I still haven't forgot Steve Phillips for the Vaughn debacle.

As for the Marlins Fire sale...its sad. Especially when the Cuyahoga River says they are out of control.
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:13 am

Quoting KROC (Reply 3):
I still haven't forgot Steve Phillips for the Vaughn debacle.

And now the idiot thinks he can analyze other people's decisions while sitting in a chair at ESPN. He makes me sick.....

And thanks to Chipper Jones for restructuring his contract for LESS money, we have a good shot at getting Furcal back. Even if you arent a fan of Chipper, that was a class move, he's a team player, its a shame theres only about 5 or 6 of them left in the league these days.
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:24 am

Quoting KROC (Reply 3):
Matt Jacobs

Mike Jacobs is being sent to Florida along with Yusmeiro Petit.

Texan

[Edited 2005-11-23 19:24:44]
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:26 am

Matt Mike I was close.  Wink
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:28 am

At least the Marlins tried to be a good team for at least a year. Now its back to the cellar.
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:32 am

Quoting SYRGuy (Reply 7):
At least the Marlins tried to be a good team for at least a year. Now its back to the cellar.

Sorry to hear that about your favorite team in the world for 2003, SRYguy.
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:33 am

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 8):
Sorry to hear that about your favorite team in the world for 2003, SRYguy.

Yeah, that team was one of my favs. The White Sox are my team though.  Wink
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:39 am

Quoting SYRGuy (Reply 4):
we have a good shot at getting Furcal back

I saw on one of the news shows the other day an interview with him saying he hopes to stay with the Braves. He really emphasized how much he likes Bobby Cox. I hope they do resign him. Now, if only the Braves could learn how to hit, run, catch, and throw in October!

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:42 am

How great would the "Las Vegas Marlins" be?  Wink
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:18 am

I think that, in the end, the Fish will stay in South Florida. If Miami doesn't step up to the plate (so to speak) then FLL would put forth some sort of package. But if they do end up leaving, Portland is the likely destination. There simply isn't enough disposable income in San Juan, and Monterrey to support a MLB franchise. As for Las Vegas, baseball is so scared about the mere apperance of impropriety when it comes to gambling that Vegas will simply be radioactive.


Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 10):
Now, if only the Braves could learn how to hit, run, catch, and throw in October!

That's the most comforting thing about being a Braves fan. You don't know how it will end, you just know that it will all end in tears. The how and the why of October are the only suprises you face. You know it's going to end badly and that you will be left, alone, amazed, muttering "I didn't know it was possible to lose like that."
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:29 am

MKEdude, rumor is that the Brewers are the frontrunners to sign Jarrod Washburn. They might even open the pocketbooks a little more to add depth to their roster. Overbay is also likely to be dealt, although nobody seems to know where. The Mets are one team that has been talking to Milwaukee about Overbay.

KROC, looks like Mark Sweeney is also likely to become a Met. Good to have another pinch hit bat at a few million per  Smile

SYRGuy, don't know who else the Braves can add after Fercal. Looks like it'll be another first round and out.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:52 am

I was reading on the Yankees messege board that there could be a 3 team deal involving eight players. The Florida Marlins would trade outfielder Juan Pierre to the Los Angeles Dodgers and relief pitcher Guillermo Mota to the New York Yankees. In return Florida receives pitchers DJ Houlton and Yhency Brazoban, and minor league outfielder Delwyn Young from Los Angeles, along with minor league outfielder, Melky Cabrera, from New York. Outfielder Milton Bradley goes to New York, and former Marlin, Carl Pavano goes to Los Angeles.

As for the Mets deal I have mixed emotions about it. We could use the power (although we should focus more on pitching) of Delgado's bat, but my worry is how he will fit in with the team. I mean he did snub the Mets last year during free agency. Plus I saw on the Mets board the he has a claus in his contract that says he can be traded after 2006 if he wants.
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:10 am

Hot off the presses!

Jim Thome has been traded to the White Sox for Aaron Rowand! Biggest deal to date!

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:21 am

Quoting Texan (Reply 15):
Jim Thome has been traded to the White Sox for Aaron Rowand! Biggest deal to date!

Strange. Konerko is entrenched at first base, and Everett as well at DH IIRC. Where is Thome going to play?

Now what the Yankees should do is trade some pitching to Texas for Rowand. He'd be a good fit in center field (as would Juan Pierre).

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:58 am

ChiSox have stated Everett will not be re-signed. If they re-sign Konerko, they could have a very powerful middle of the lineup.

Philly needs a CF too, that's one of the reasons they made the trade. With the way the ball travels out of Citizens Bank Park, Rowand could hit over 30 homers and with Howard at 1st, the overall power numbers should increase for Philly. Of course, their starting pitching is still suspect and if they cannot re-sign Wagner or land another quality closer, they still won't win a playoff spot, especially in the NL East.

The team that intrigues me the most going into next season is the Cleveland Indians. If they can hold it together, they'll challenge for the AL Central title and possibly the AL pennant. It should be fun!

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:16 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 16):
Now what the Yankees should do is trade some pitching to Texas for Rowand.

Just disregard that statement. Why the hell did I think that Thome was playing for the Rangers?  confused 

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:57 am

Hmmmm:

fire sales of talent, promising stadium deals that fall through and threaten the relocation of the team. We Montrealers warned you South Florida, but Jeffrey Loria works his magic for Bud Selig yet again.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:30 pm

That Dodgers/Marlins/Yanks proposal sounds like a winner for the Dodgers.

As for KROC's Mets being a stronger team, no doubt they will be. However, until they can end the season a winner, they'll still be grouped with my Dodger's and my brothers' Orioles as high-priced teams who can't put it all together.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:13 am

Quoting Texan (Reply 13):
The Mets are one team that has been talking to Milwaukee about Overbay.

I would love to see Overbay on the Mets. They could use this guy bigtime.

Quoting Texan (Reply 13):
KROC, looks like Mark Sweeney is also likely to become a Met. Good to have another pinch hit bat at a few million per

Mark or Mike Sweeney? If you are talking about the one on the Royals, then its Mike. I would take him as he is a very good ball player and an even better person but I'm not sure whats left in the tank at this stage of his career.

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 14):
As for the Mets deal I have mixed emotions about it. We could use the power (although we should focus more on pitching) of Delgado's bat, but my worry is how he will fit in with the team. I mean he did snub the Mets last year during free agency. Plus I saw on the Mets board the he has a claus in his contract that says he can be traded after 2006 if he wants.

While I was excited at first about this trade I am somewhat hesitant now. I'm not concerned with Delgado "snubbing" the Mets, he just went to where he thought he would fit in best. Obviously money wasn't the issue. And the Mets deffinitely need Delgados power bat in the lineup but this Mike Jacobs kid is young and showed tons of potential. In just over 100 plate apperances he hit 11 home runs and batet .306 That aint bad for a kid still learning on the MLB level. I personally would like to see him get a full season at first base. That gives the Mets a solid young infield. Jacobs, Reyes, Wright, possibly Molina behind the plate and whoever they get to replace that abortion of a ball player Matsui at 2nd. I would like to see the Mets get a big power bat for the outfield and NOT ManRam. A legit power bat to compliment Floyd and hopefully a rebounding Beltran would be key and go along with the budding superstars in the infield. Sign Wagner and get some more help in the Bully and the Mets would be looking at a very solid team top to bottom.

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 20):
As for KROC's Mets being a stronger team, no doubt they will be. However, until they can end the season a winner, they'll still be grouped with my Dodger's and my brothers' Orioles as high-priced teams who can't put it all together.

Lets not get this twisted. The MEts played in the strongest division in baseball last year. The Dodgers played in the worst. If they played in the N.L. East they would have struggled to get 65 wins. The Orioles are a joke because Pinko Pete Angelos has no clue as to what he is doing. Its the worst run ballclub out there who are full of bats with even less pitching than the Mets. Here's to BF Sid Pontoonboot getting his 4th DUI this coming season.
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:32 am

Quoting KROC (Reply 21):
Mark or Mike Sweeney? If you are talking about the one on the Royals, then its Mike. I would take him as he is a very good ball player and an even better person but I'm not sure whats left in the tank at this stage of his career.

Mark, the Padres pinch hit specialist last year. Word is the Mets are throwing wads of money his way for some reason (wads in this case probably means $2 mil per or so).

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:38 am

If the Mets dont get Molina what do they do? Do they keep Castro? Bring Piazza back? Im not sure who else they could go after.

Quoting KROC (Reply 21):
but this Mike Jacobs kid is young and showed tons of potential. In just over 100 plate apperances he hit 11 home runs and batet .306 That aint bad for a kid still learning on the MLB level.

You know who Mike Jacobs reminded me of? Chipper Jones (also known as "Larry" to us Met Fans)

Quoting KROC (Reply 21):
I would like to see the Mets get a big power bat for the outfield and NOT ManRam. A legit power bat to compliment Floyd and hopefully a rebounding Beltran would be key and go along with the budding superstars in the infield.

Don't foget we still have our very good rookie outfielder Lastings Milledge. That is if Minaya is stupid enough to trade this kid. But you are right, we do need another outfielder now that we traded Cameron.
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:18 pm

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 23):
If the Mets dont get Molina what do they do? Do they keep Castro? Bring Piazza back? Im not sure who else they could go after

I wouldn't be upset seeign Castro behind the plate to see what he could do over a full season. He handled the staff well, had some key hits (although he needs to boost that average up some) and is solid defensively. Piazza is done in NY. And as a Mets and Piazza Fan, I'm thankful for that.

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 23):
Don't foget we still have our very good rookie outfielder Lastings Milledge. That is if Minaya is stupid enough to trade this kid. But you are right, we do need another outfielder now that we traded Cameron.

Victor Diaz played very well for the Mets last year. I think he could do even better knowing he was going to be in one place for the entire season. I would much rather see a bigger proven bat out there, but I would give Victor the benefit of the doubt as well. Cameron being gone is the best news from the Mets since they told me they would not be bringing back that fat piece of crap Mo Vaughn.
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:01 pm

Looks like Toronto is getting into the FA market, reportedly signing BJ Ryan to a 5 year $47 million deal. A bit on the outrageous side if you ask me, but I guess that's why I'm not in Riccardi's shoes.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:30 pm

Quoting SYRGuy (Reply 7):
At least the Marlins tried to be a good team for at least a year. Now its back to the cellar.

i disagree...they still got it this year

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 12):
I think that, in the end, the Fish will stay in South Florida. If Miami doesn't step up to the plate (so to speak) then FLL would put forth some sort of package.

yep! Except the stadium site up here is now a bunch of apartments...thats a problem!


ok the Marlins got Hanley Rimerez and Mike Jacobs...2 top prospects for their respective former teams (Red Sox and Mets)...
They now have:
1B Jacobs/Conine
2B Castillo
SS: Ramirez/Andino
3B: Cabrera
LF: Hermida/Aguilla/Conine
CF: Pierre
RF: Encarnacion/Hermida/Aguilla


ok, so no All Star team, but they've done it with worse teams (2003)!

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:54 pm

The Fish still are still dangling Pierre, Castillo, and LoDuca to anyone who might be interested. There's been moderate interest in Pierre and Castillo, but very few teams are interested in taking on LoDuca's contract.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:04 am

Quoting Texan (Reply 25):
Looks like Toronto is getting into the FA market, reportedly signing BJ Ryan to a 5 year $47 million deal. A bit on the outrageous side if you ask me, but I guess that's why I'm not in Riccardi's shoes.

Amazing. Its truly amazing what one solid year as a closer can get you on the free agent market.

Quoting Flairport (Reply 26):
Signed,
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You are a DIEHARD fan...just like me.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:01 pm

Billy Wagner is now a Met, signing a 4-year $43 million contract. So the Mets now have on hitter and one reliever  Smile

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:10 pm

Quoting Texan (Reply 29):
Billy Wagner is now a Met, signing a 4-year $43 million contract. So the Mets now have on hitter and one reliever

Now all the Mets need to do is ship Kaz Matsui back to Japan and get a REAL second baseman. Then our infield will be all set!
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:13 pm

If the Mets can get Benji Molina and a decent 2nd baseman then the infield will be all squared away. Until that debacle Kaz Matsui is gone I won't feel comfortable with the infield.
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:08 am

Florida's amazing winter fire sale has continued, with Luis Castillo going to the Twins and with Paul LoDuca reportedly heading to the Mets pending a physical.

Baseball's winter meetings are being held this week in Dallas at the Wyndham Anatole Hotel. I'll be down there periodically and if I somehow manage to ferret out some information I'll get it posted as soon as possible. If you want to hear live from there, check out mlb.com or email me and I'll let you know when I'll be there.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:19 am

The Marlins are a disgrace to baseball period. They make the Royals look like an elite organization.
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:38 am

While the Marlins are going about self-destructing, the Yankees might want to look into Juan Pierre. He's the kind of leadoff hitter that the Yankees have wanted for a long time, and solves the center field problem.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:21 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 34):
While the Marlins are going about self-destructing, the Yankees might want to look into Juan Pierre. He's the kind of leadoff hitter that the Yankees have wanted for a long time, and solves the center field problem.

I have already solved that problem. Jeter or ARod will be playing in Center.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:24 am

Alright, time to be ahead of the game. A.J. Burnett to the Cards, 5 years $50 million. That's what I'm hearing right now. No confirmation from any news sources, but people are talking about it down here.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:38 pm

Looks like my source led me astray...Burnett to the Blue Jays, 5 years $55 million. Overpaid for an overhyped player if you ask me, but then again I don't care what the Yanks and Red Sox think of me and vice versa. Good to see the Blue Jays finally spending money. If only they could receive some assured quality for the $102 million they've shelled out for one starter and one reliever.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:20 pm

Burnett was indeed way overpaid. He is a .500 pitcher in his career. And thats with being surrounded by some decent lineups and and being part of a very good pitching staff.

Hell, while they are at it, the D-Train would look really good in NY Blue and Orange as well.
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:23 am

At least the Rangers didn't try to sign Paul Byrd to a Chan Ho-esque deal  Smile

Still plenty of time for that, though. Jeff Weaver is still on the market

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:28 am

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 10):
Quoting SYRGuy (Reply 4):
we have a good shot at getting Furcal back

I saw on one of the news shows the other day an interview with him saying he hopes to stay with the Braves. He really emphasized how much he likes Bobby Cox.

Looks like he's headed to LA..... Six years/39mil I think. Sucks for the Braves. So much for his earlier comments about wanting to stay in Atlanta. I haven't heard anything about what the Braves offered, but apparently it wasn't enough....
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:30 am

Furcal is getting a deal from the Dodgers for A LOT more cash than that. It comes out to around 13 mil a year.
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:33 am

Quoting Texan (Reply 37):
If only they could receive some assured quality for the $102 million they've shelled out for one starter and one reliever.

New owner, new money...are we becoming the Yankees of the north.

I sure as hell hope not !!
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:35 am

Quoting KROC (Reply 41):
It comes out to around 13 mil a year

I heard it was that kind of money for the first two years, and then drops significantly for the remainder of the term. Only caught bits and pieces of the story though.
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:36 am

Furcal is getting $40 mil over 3 years. I think the Dodgers overpaid, especially considering they already had a good SS in Izturis.
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:37 am

Quoting YooYoo (Reply 42):
are we becoming the Yankees of the north.

No, you're not becoming the Yankees of the North. The Yankees actually win games from all the money they spend.  Wink

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 43):
I heard it was that kind of money for the first two years, and then drops significantly for the remainder of the term. Only caught bits and pieces of the story though.

I want to say the actual contract is more like 4 years 52 million.
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:39 am

Quoting CactusA319 (Reply 44):
Furcal is getting $40 mil over 3 years.

Yea, I just checked in Sports Ill. site.

"Furcal will receive $9 million next year, with $5 million of that to be called a signing bonus. He gets $13 million in cash in each of the following two seasons, and there is a final $4 million payment in January 2009."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...12/04/dodgers.furcal.ap/index.html

Damn wife and her vacumn. No wonder I couldn't hear the whole story....
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:07 am

Quoting CactusA319 (Reply 44):
Furcal is getting $40 mil over 3 years. I think the Dodgers overpaid, especially considering they already had a good SS in Izturis.

Izturis is out until at least late June, more likely into early-mid July recovering from surgery. He'll move to 2nd, Kent to 1st. Dodgers will have a solid middle infield for Lowe, which is a necessity for him. Agree that they overpaid for Furcal, but the move should help the Dodgers for the next couple years.

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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:32 am

Quoting Texan (Reply 47):
Izturis is out until at least late June, more likely into early-mid July recovering from surgery. He'll move to 2nd, Kent to 1st

Its not a given yet that Izturis and the stache would be willing to move. That would be a job for the manager to deal with. Oh wait.....
 
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RE: Marlins Fire Sale And Baseball Offseason

Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:15 am

Yeah supposedly Furcal wanted to go to a team that would pay him a decent amount of money, had a good chance of winning, and where he felt comfortable. He could have stayed in Atlanta where all they do is make the playoffs every year, gone to the Cubs and played with a couple of his good friends, or gone to LA where there is no manager, you have a nutcase in the outfield, and a porn-stache wearing douche who's career highlight is fighting with Barry Bonds when they were teamates. Nice move Raffy. Have a drink or 10 on me.

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