JAGflyer
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Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:33 am

I have been wondering. Why do manual shift knobs show the pattern for the gears? If you are driving manual you should at least know were all the gears are on the car, shouldn't you?

1 - 3 - 5

2 - 4 - R
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:39 am

Quoting JAGflyer (Thread starter):
should at least know were all the gears are on the car, shouldn't you?

Correct. But what about learner drivers?
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:41 am

I've had cars with this config.

--1-3
R-2-4

this config.

1-3
2-4-R

and this:

1-3-5
2-4-R

There are Italian cars (Ferrari) that have this:

R-2-4
1-3-5

They're not the same with all makes - it's helpful to have a guide.

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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:46 am




...And aren't Volkswagens:

R
1-3-5
2-4-6

...in which you compress the shift knob to slip up into reverse?




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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:40 am

German gearboxes are
R135
24(6)
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:49 am

After a while you learn where the gears are. I can shift without even thinking about it.

Mine is
135
24 R

but the new car will probably be
R135
24
 
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:54 am

Opel's Vectra (1995) is:

R 1 3 5
2 4

My Cherokee is the standard format:

1 3 5
2 4 R

The formats apply for both, left and right driving.

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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:13 am

Manual gearbox? What are you, European? Say it like a proud North American.

Standard Transmission.

or

Stickshift.
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:29 am

Manual transmission? Stickshift? Standard Transmission? It's all the same!!
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:11 pm

Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 6):
R 1 3 5
2 4

Is it actually

R 1 3 5
2 4 - -

or is it

R 1 3 5
- 2 4 - ???


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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:36 pm

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 8):
Manual transmission? Stickshift? Standard Transmission? It's all the same!!

except for the fact that around here when you call it a stickshift people will understand what your trying to tell them  Wink


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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:23 pm

Quoting JAGflyer (Thread starter):
Why do manual shift knobs show the pattern for the gears?

Apart form the fact that both the number as well as the pattern of gears differs per manufacturer (as indicated by a number of posts yet), also the way to shift into "Reverse" differs quite a lot:
For my Opel (aka. Vauxhaul, Holden, ..) I have to lift a ring located beneath the main knob.
On other manufacturers, one has to depress the main knob.
On Ford Focus (European model) I´ve experienced that there was no such action required. "Reverse" simply slipped in ...
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:35 pm

Toyota's Corolla has

1 3 5
2 4 R

But the Corolla XRS has

R1 3 5
2 4 6
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:26 pm

My Volvo 940 is:

R-1-3-5
**2-4
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:33 pm

Quoting EclipseFlight7 (Reply 7):
Manual gearbox? What are you, European? Say it like a proud North American.

Standard Transmission.

or

Stickshift.

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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:36 pm

in general the japs have it as

1-3-5
2-4-R

Whilst the germans have it as

R-1-3-5
2-4

I think the old SLK had it as:

1-3-5
R-2-4-6
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:37 pm

My Megane :
R - 1 - 3 - 5
- - 2 - 4 - -

I never look at it though...
However, when I drive a car I am not used to, I usually check at least once the R position.

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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:38 pm

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 1):
There are Italian cars (Ferrari) that have this:

R-2-4
1-3-5

My Folks used to have a Nissan Pulsar with this shift pattern - there would be an annoying beep every time you'd put it in reverse!
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:31 pm

My 98 Vectra has:

1-3-5
2-4
------R

You have to pull up the little ring and push it to the right of 5 and then back toward the rear.

I had a Fiat Punto which was the same but you had to push it down to put it in reverse.

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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:10 am

my car:

R-1-3-5
**2-4

i have an aftermarket knob without markings

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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:12 am

Quoting TEBguy (Reply 19):
i have an aftermarket knob without markings

Don't say that on these forums, they'll be onto you like a pack of hounds!

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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:56 am

Quoting Noelg (Reply 20):
Don't say that on these forums, they'll be onto you like a pack of hounds!

It's not untill you said that that i re-reat my post, and realised what i'd said.

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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:04 am

Quoting TEBguy (Reply 21):
It's not untill you said that that i re-reat my post, and realised what i'd said.

GRRRRRRR..... Can you smell the Dog Chow breath?

My parents have a Passat and a Polo, the Passat has

1 3 5
2 4 R

and the Polo has

R 1 3 5
    2 4

where you have to push the stick down to shift in reverse. They did away with that on the Passat, but you still don't risk shifting from 5 to R because there's a blockade. As most others, I hardly ever look at the stick. Driving an automatic transmission always turns out werid because I automatically want to shift during the first couple of miles.
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:46 am

Quoting TEBguy (Reply 19):

ROFL! Quote of the week.  cheeky 
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:48 am

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 4):
German gearboxes are
R135
24(6)

That's not true at all. It depends on the manufacturer. Your little thing applies to VW. But not to all the others.
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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:40 am

Lets just have funny few minutes now, just to make a fool of my self.

My dads Audi A4 is

==P
==R
==N
+-D
S

P = Park
R = Reverse
N = Neutral
D = Drive (automatic transmission)
+- = Drive with manual transmission, minus the clutch
S = Sports Mode = Quicker gear change, but keeps it self in a gear for longer.

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RE: Manual Gearbox Q

Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:45 am

Quoting JAGflyer (Thread starter):
Why do manual shift knobs show the pattern for the gears?

Some vehicles, like heavy trucks, put the shift pattern on the drivers sun visor.

It is a handy thing to know because not all gearboxes are created alike.
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