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Harbin Water Disaster China's 'Chernobal'?

Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:24 pm

Could the current pollution disaster to the water source and water system of the 2 million+ population city of Harbin, China be China's 'Chernobal'? While it isn't as severe as Chernobal, to me this disaster in the way the Chinese government handled it, including how they controled the public knowlege there and outside the country, could cause changes into the future. It could force China's people and government to face the lack of proper safety and enviromental controls they have in their exploding industrial economy.
Major disasters, affecting so many people are very hard to hide in this age of the internet even in very authoritian countries and tend to weaken them. Chernobal also was so big, it couldn't be hidden either to the world or the citizens of the USSR, affecting the trust in the government that it became a factor in it's collaspe. Perhaps hopefully, the Chinese government may have to become more open, accept more regulation of industry, realize that hiding disasters are not in their or their citizens' best interests.
The source of this disaster, while nowhere as severe as that of Chernobal is still huge for that region. Two weeks ago, there was an explosion at a chemical plant up river from the city of Harbin. Hundereds of tons of highly toxic benzine, a substance well known to cause cancer, dumped into the river, mainly floating on the top of the river, contaminating the river severely. The river contamminated is the primary source for potable water for the city and region. The initial industrial accident was only bearly covered by the government controlled press, and the government tried to hide the severity and affects downriver. Eventually as the water system of the city of Harbin became so highly and dangerously polluted they had to face the reality with the people there to force them to get water from outside the system.
 
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RE: Harbin Water Disaster China's 'Chernobal'?

Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:52 am

Chernobyl.


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RE: Harbin Water Disaster China's 'Chernobal'?

Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:03 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Thread starter):
It could force China's people and government to face the lack of proper safety and enviromental controls they have in their exploding industrial economy.

Well, with the PRC being what it is, it's more likey that just the people will face the problems, and the government will ignore it and keep on chugging.

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RE: Harbin Water Disaster China's 'Chernobal'?

Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:02 am

ProMed (which keeps track of infectious disease - related materials around the world ) advised today the Harbin plant was one of China's largest (60% share) avian influenza vaccine plants.
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RE: Harbin Water Disaster China's 'Chernobal'?

Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:30 am

Already the leadership in Bejing has reacted very publicly to this problem. They have very openly publicaly apoligized on national/govenment TV news to the Russian government for the pollution that is downstream from Harbin. Leaders at the plant will be punnished (probalby with some executed). The plant is of course really owned by the Communist Party and government. Some leaders are realizing the penalty for fast industrialization is destroying the water supplies of 'the people' whom they want to keep at bay so are being much more open than in the past. What has happened here is very different than the past for the PRC, and hopefully they will take greater responsibility for the affects of high rates of pollution and irresponsable enviormental polices they have.

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