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25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:04 pm

On 29 November 1980 ABBA's Super Trouper reached No 1, their last song to reach the top of the charts in the UK and many European countries. 25 years later the song is still being played on the radio, in the theatres and in many houses.

Do you think that come 29 November 2030, Britney, Madonna, Girls Aloud or Black Eyed Peas songs will still be played as regularly as ABBA is today?
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:08 pm

Madonna? Well, she has been around for twenty years or so, so I can see her being part of the "golden oldies" 25 years from now.

As for Shitney Spears and your other examples... I don't think anyone will remember them ten or fifteen years from now, except for being tragic examples of music perversions of the early 21st century. Big grin
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:13 pm

Madonna - yes. The others - Hell no!

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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:26 pm

Was that really 25 years ago??? Now THAT makes me feel old!

In response to the question I doubt songs by the likes of Britney, Black Eyed Peas or Girls Aloud will still be played on the radio in 5 years time - let alone 25 years time!!

The big difference between these no-hopers and ABBA is that ABBA had talent and could sing, play instruments and write their own stuff. Now that's what I call the full package!

I know I sound like a  grumpy   old  man!

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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:34 pm

how ironic given the current no.1 here in the UK uses a heavy sample of one of their tracks...

as to the question - Madonna yes, the others no.
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:00 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 4):
how ironic given the current no.1 here in the UK uses a heavy sample of one of their tracks...

and how mediocre and crap it would be without that sample!

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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:21 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 4):
how ironic given the current no.1 here in the UK uses a heavy sample of one of their tracks...

It was apparantly the first time that Benny and Bjorn gave permission for one of their songs (Gimme Gimme Gimme) to be used. Normally they are extremely protective of copyright. Just makes me wonder how the ABBA imitations, like Bjorn Again, Abbacadabra etc, managed to get away with it in the past.
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:25 pm

Quoting BCAL (Reply 6):
It was apparantly the first time that Benny and Bjorn gave permission for one of their songs (Gimme Gimme Gimme) to be used. Normally they are extremely protective of copyright. Just makes me wonder how the ABBA imitations, like Bjorn Again, Abbacadabra etc, managed to get away with it in the past.

Actually, it's the second time they've given permission - the Fugees used the riff from The Name of the Game in their track Rumble in the Jungle.

Someone also used it illigally in the 80s (Edelweiss) and they got sued.

Cover bands etc have never used an actual sample from the original recordings and that is allowed.

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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:32 pm

Quoting BCAL (Thread starter):
On 29 November 1980 ABBA's Super Trouper reached No 1, their last song to reach the top of the charts in the UK

IIRC they had a total of 9 UK no.1 hits in a row including ST. The namesake album was also their last one to contain a no.1 single.

"The Visitors" - their ultimate new album - was still great and it is one of my favourites.


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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:40 pm

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 7):
Actually, it's the second time they've given permission - the Fugees used the riff from The Name of the Game in their track Rumble in the Jungle.

Classic Lover - you are absolutely correct. This quote is taken from the Mamma Mia website

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MAMMA MIA!’s Benny Andersson and Björn Ulvaeus have broken their strict "no sample" rule to grant Madonna the honour of using a song from their smash hit Broadway musical. Madonna's new single “Hung Up” will feature a sample of ABBA's “Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!” making her one of the rare artists to be endorsed by the Super Group. Only The Fugees were granted the honour when they used a sample from "The Name Of The Game" in their 1996 track "Rumble in the Jungle". “Hung Up” is the first single from the album “Confessions on a Dance Floor,” due out on 14 November.
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:21 pm

There was also a dance track in about 1998 or 1999 called "Hammer to the Heart" by The Tamperer, which also used a sample from Gimme Gimme Gimme. Whether this was legal or not I don't know, but nobody batted an eyelid at the time.

I agree - I think Madonna's music will still be around and popular (have to say I'm not a great fan myself) but I sincerely hope that Britney Spears and Girls Aloud are off our air-waves, consigned to the dustbin of history and their singers end up where they belong - on the cover of FHM, where they can be seen but not heard.
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:09 pm

BTW Bjorn.U has bought his neighbours summerhouse, where he and Benny wrote some of the early stuff.
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:26 pm

If you like ABBA you should definitely go see Mama Mia, the musical based on their songs. It's very well done.
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:37 pm

Quoting Pope (Reply 12):
If you like ABBA you should definitely go see Mama Mia

Been 15 times (and going again at Christmas plus several seats booked for different dates througout next year) - shows what a sad life I have but I simply adore it as you leave the show feeling very happy.

And for a.net members who think it might be a show based on the life of ABBA, it is not. It is a story set to ABBA songs, and it really works. At the end of every performance, the theatre goers (all ages) get up and dance in the aisles.
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:43 pm

ABBA was not in my lifetime, as i was born in 1980. But I was introduced to them by my mom, who just adores them. They were a really talented group with great voices and fantastic songs. I still listen to the ABBA GOLD album.

THe other newbies? Well not including madonna, they may not be remembered in a few years for their music. But who knows...

Madonna is a classic, she is timeless and she does not belong in the same crew as Spears etc..
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:47 pm

Quoting Captaink (Reply 14):
ABBA was not in my lifetime, as i was born in 1980.

Yes they were, they recorded their last song in 1982.

Madonna will be remembered ongoingly, as will Michael Jackson, Prince, and host of 1980s artists. Even people with one huge hit (Sinead O'Connor for example) will be remembered for their stuff.

A lot of the rock bands will be as well I should think.

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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:04 am

I too was only born in 1980, I was introduced through my family having all of the albums on vinyl! Truly one of the greatest bands of all time, certainly my favourite, I have even recently got the Spanish version of "Gold" - "Oro".

Incredible to hear them sing the songs in Spanish, there is a lot more emotion in the voices in Spanish.

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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:18 am

Quoting BCAL (Thread starter):
Britney

Britney will only be remembered for her posing nude(someday) she needs another stunt to re-lite the fire in her career. Her being a mom was the first of many stunts
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:21 am

I was an Abba fan in my teens. Yes, I admit it. I also still enjoy listening to them once and a while.

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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:35 am

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 15):
Even people with one huge hit (Sinead O'Connor for example) will be remembered for their stuff.

Some one-hit wonders are still played, but not others. Being in Ireland, maybe you still hear Sinead O'Connor. But it has been YEARS since I've heard "Nothing compares to you" on the radio. So I don't think she'll really be remembered. She already isn't by most people, I guess.

Another more recent example of a group with a huge, huge hit that has already been basically forgotten is Fastball. I haven't heard "The Way" in a long time, either.

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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:40 am

Quoting BCAL (Thread starter):
Do you think that come 29 November 2030, Britney, Madonna, Girls Aloud or Black Eyed Peas songs will still be played as regularly as ABBA is today?

Madonna? yes

Britney? no  no 

Black Eyed Peas? they'll keep a small cult following


Girls Aloud? never even heard of them


Count me in as a ABBA fan. My favorite album of there's is 'The Album' from 1977. Great stuff.
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:46 am

Quoting BCAL (Thread starter):
On 29 November 1980 ABBA's Super Trouper reached No 1, their last song to reach the top of the charts in the UK and many European countries. 25 years later the song is still being played on the radio, in the theatres and in many houses.

Do you think that come 29 November 2030, Britney, Madonna, Girls Aloud or Black Eyed Peas songs will still be played as regularly as ABBA is today?

Good for ABBA.

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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:49 am

Great to see so many ABBA fans.

Trivial bit of information, relevant to a.net, in that if BA and AA were ever to merge (and thanks to fellow a.net member GeoffM who made the original suggestion), the merged airline should be called ABBA! OK, so not quite the right initials but it stops any argument whether BA or AA should come first in the new name.
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:40 am

Did I hear ABBA?
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Spears what?
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:14 am

Damm, there last hit was 1 year before i was born, yet there still as popular. I was really into them around 10ish onwards, and have just got back into listening cause of hung up.

Abba have some great (and some not so great) tracks, and will be around till i die i think
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:22 am

Quoting BCAL (Reply 6):
Quoting Cornish (Reply 4):
how ironic given the current no.1 here in the UK uses a heavy sample of one of their tracks...

It was apparantly the first time that Benny and Bjorn gave permission for one of their songs (Gimme Gimme Gimme) to be used. Normally they are extremely protective of copyright. Just makes me wonder how the ABBA imitations, like Bjorn Again, Abbacadabra etc, managed to get away with it in the past.

Yes...that's it. I've heard the song over here, and picked up the ABBA track right away, but couldn't think of the song. Erasure did "Abba-esque" and "take a chance on me" several years ago, not bad, except for the rap they added to the end...that ruined it.

ABBA rocks...that GOLD CD is quite possibly one of the best "greatest hits" compilations ever.

I haven't seen Mama Mia, but my Mom is nuts over it. She's seen it in London several times, going again in PDX in a few weeks, and will drop anything to go see it again.
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:26 am

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 25):
I haven't seen Mama Mia, but my Mom is nuts over it. She's seen it in London several times, going again in PDX in a few weeks, and will drop anything to go see it again

OHHHH, THANKS

I know what i want for xmas from my dad now. Tickets to see mamma Mia, annoyed i missed it when i went to vegas
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:39 pm

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 25):
Erasure did "Abba-esque

And then the tribute band Bjorn Again did Erasure-ish where they covered a couple (maybe 4) tracks that Erasure had done (incl A Little Respect IIRC) and made them sound ABBA-like - not sure if it worked!!



Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 7):
Someone also used it illigally in the 80s (Edelweiss) and they got sued

Harry Enfield also used a sample of 'Money, Money, Money' back in 1988 on his track Loadsamoney. He didn't get permission either and he got sued!

My favourite album of ABBA's (ABBA Gold excepted) is Super Trouper - just reminds me of being a kid without any cares in the world - and the songs are just great.

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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:15 pm

Man this is just wild...just when I thought I was the only ABBA fan left on the planet. I also have the Gold CD and now my four year old daughter makes me play SOS and Dancing Queen for her every morning on the way to preschool. It's funny to watch her through the mirror as she lip synchs the words.

Quoting Noelg (Reply 16):
I have even recently got the Spanish version of "Gold" - "Oro"

Where on earth did you find that? I would love to hear it in Spanish.
 
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:24 pm

Quoting N200WN (Reply 28):
Where on earth did you find that? I would love to hear it in Spanish.

This and many other tracks sung in Spanish are on the ABBA collection which you can get here
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:43 am

So, does that mean that once Super Trouper hit #1, "The Winner..(had) Take(n) It All", and was on the way towards their "Waterloo"???

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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:54 am

OK, I am going to show my age now.........

I am shocked that Super Truper was ABBA's final UK No.1 (in 1980). I remember my parents buying the album (with the circus scene on the cover!) I actually thought their final UK No.1 was 'Happy New Year' (was that at the end on 1980 or 1981?). Of their final songs I really liked 'One of us', though I know it wasn't a UK No.1 (but still made Top 10, early 1982?)

Now I am really going to sound like a really old fart when I say, thank goodness for Terry Wogan on BBC Radio 2 from 07:30 to 09:30 each weekday morning! Not only is he extremely humourous and witty, but he plays plenty of ABBA! Get plenty of laughs from his show when driving to work in the morning. (Anyone over the age of 30 should listen to his program for a good laugh!)  Smile
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RE: 25 Years Ago Today - ABBA's Last No 1 Hit

Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:31 pm

ABBA was and is one of my favorite groups...Given that my heritage is Swedish, I liked the style of music and felt a connection to it...I bought two albums back then...haven't played them in years (record player dead) but went twice in last couple of years to see Waterloo on Cape Cod...they do a "imitation" of ABBA which I think is pretty good...they do act all over Sweden also and a couple of the original band members (sax and drummer) played some numbers as part of show...

The music always seemed to have lyrics that I could relate to and which told a story...not like now, when some "songs" seem to only have three or four lines that repeat...
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