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AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:25 am

If you like computers and like processor wars, read this:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-6389077-1.html?tag=cnetfd.wk

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RE: AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:31 am

Interesting, AMD won all rounds.

I recently bought my first AMD and I'm quite happy with performance & price.
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RE: AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:35 am

My present computer (home-built) is two years old and is AMD. My previous five were Pentium. I'm very pleased with the AMD and have never had any problems. The Pentiums were nothing but trouble.

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RE: AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:47 am

Oh, give me a break. Not ANOTHER A vs. I thread  Silly

Seriously I'm in the same boat as Mark. Prior to my current rig I had an Intel 486 DX2 and PIII. Both were pieces of unreliable pieces of crap. My current core is an AMD Athlon XP 1800+...after reading this I'll be watching the price on that 4400.
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RE: AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:55 pm

Quoting DeskPilot (Reply 1):
my first AMD and I'm quite happy with performance & price.

Quite happy with Intel via to that.
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RE: AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:01 pm

For gamers, AMD wins hands down. Plus, the Intel heat factor is a very real concern.

I had an AMD on our old home machine and loved it. I'm about to upgrade to a new home PC separate from the laptop and am going with the AMD X2 3800+. Can't really afford more than that right now and don't need the added performance.

But I've always been an AMD fan. Good stuff.
 
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RE: AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:10 pm

The only thing I dont like aboru AMD's are their scalings. With Intel's pentiums there are categories (I, II, III, IV, etc) and subcategories (dual core, etc) to describe the chip and the associated clock speed.

AMD chips have no such thing (their 3000 aparently is like a 2ghz but the ratio is not linear), so I cant even begin to rate them. I am hearing from people who own them (bias) they are the best; I don't care unless I have a reference point.

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RE: AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:28 pm

Quoting Lehpron (Reply 6):
The only thing I dont like aboru AMD's are their scalings. With Intel's pentiums there are categories (I, II, III, IV, etc) and subcategories (dual core, etc) to describe the chip and the associated clock speed.

AMD chips have no such thing (their 3000 aparently is like a 2ghz but the ratio is not linear), so I cant even begin to rate them. I am hearing from people who own them (bias) they are the best; I don't care unless I have a reference point.

It's actually not that complicated, here's a few pointers:

1. For Athlon and Sempron chips, there is a 4 digit identifier , i.e. 3500 or 3800. This scales closely to the equivalent Intel chip in MHZ. So, for example, an Athlon 3800 is comparable to an Intel Pentium 4 HT 3.8GHZ even though the actual clock speed is 2,4 GHZ. Semprons can be compared similarly to Celerons.
2. Pentium M processors and Turion processors of the same clock speed are approximately the same performance. As with the Athlons, you can use the AMD identifier to roughly cross the performance to a normal P4.
3. You get much better price/performance from AMD - probably part of this is not paying for all the Intel ads/promotions. It's not just that the processors are less expensive, but also other things. Due to direct processor control of memory, less components are required and equivalent memory performance is possible with slower(cheaper) memory.
4. With anything close to symmetric memory usage, these chips excel in multi-processor applications and are more often than not the preferred chocie for high performance cluster computing.
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RE: AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:27 pm

Quoting Lehpron (Reply 6):
The only thing I dont like aboru AMD's are their scalings. With Intel's pentiums there are categories (I, II, III, IV, etc) and subcategories (dual core, etc) to describe the chip and the associated clock speed

Not anymore, my good man.

Intel Pentium D 840? Is that any less confusing than AMD?

At least AMD's naming system makes some sense.
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RE: AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:11 pm

Hi everyone,
I've had AMD computers for a long time. If I recall my 386 DX 40 Mhz(!!) was like a bullet. It could make some 486's look bad. I built my Athlon (Thunderbird) 750 Mhz machine back in June 2000 and the thing still runs like a champ. I can't of a single reason to replace it.

I had a Pentium 150 in between these two systems and it was crap. I'm running a Athlon XP-M 2500+ on my laptop which doesn't seem to be that great. It's probably more to do with the original price of $800 I paid for it more than anything. I upgraded the Ram to 1 Gig, so that helped.

I'm a big fan of AMD, they deliver a product that can't be beat in terms of Performance/Price. Thinking about all the old computers I had makes me realize how OLD I've gotten! It's amazing how time flies!

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RE: AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:23 am

My first computer that I had in 1998 has an AMD 350MHz and it worked well but it was a bit slow if you compare it with the CPU's today. Then I got a Intel Pentium III 600MHz in 2001 which was a total piece of crap. Not only its more expensive but the speed is very similar to the AMD 350 MHz. The Pentium III 800MHz lasted around 4-6 months due to some weird problem that it had. In 2002 I got a computer with a AMD Athlon 1700+ which was great. Until now my AMD 1700+ still works great apart from some overclocking problems.

From now on I am AMD processcors all the way because they are not as expensive as Intel processors. The other good thing about some AMD processors is that you could easily overclock them without having to solder stuff on the processors like you do in some Intel Pentium processors.
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RE: AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:13 am

AMD are great with prices, as well as performance. That is what impresses me.

I've got a server box here which I dropped a Duron 1800 in the other day, genuine clock speed 1800MHz. Plenty of processor power and I paid £24 for it brand new. Their newer chips are also extremely well priced compared to comparable Intel chips, which I have nothing against except my preference for AMD's bang for buck.
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RE: AMD Vs Intel - Interesting Article

Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:24 am

Having been an Intel guy for years, my next computer was going to be an Intel-chipped one. I've been leaning towards AMD for a time now. When I was considering a home-built rig earlier this year, I almost went AMD then, but the shop was out of the MOBO I wanted, so I bought an LCD monitor instead. My next computer (which I will be getting in the next month or so) is more than likely going to have an AMD processor inside.

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