LHMark
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LoDuca To Mets, Byrd To Tribe. Shift Of Power?

Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:16 am

Well, the Mets did pretty well with their last Dodgers/Marlins catcher acqusition. Let's see if lightning strikes twice.

While LoDuca is by no means the dominant hitting threat that Piazza was, he offers a solid bat and good "D." He could be the glue that keeps NY's latest experiment with high-priced free agency in contention through the playoffs.

Meanwhile, the Indians grab crafty veteran pitcher Paul Byrd. Put Byrd on the 2005 Tribe, and they make the playoffs. I still think the Indians played above their ability for the second half of last season, and I'm doubtful for as stron a showing, but the solidified pitching threat should give the White Sox and Twins a run for their money, and possibly give Cleveland the division.
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RE: LoDuca To Mets, Byrd To Tribe. Shift Of Power?

Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:29 am

There possibly could be a shift in power in the N.L. East. While I would have preferred Benji Molina, LoDuca gives the Mets a good catcher with a solid bat and more importantly a gritty hard nosed player. They type of player that can influence in a positive way players like budding superstar David Wright. I'm still disappointed with the loss of Mike Jacobs, but Delgado is a great aquisition AND while they are making all these high dollar moves they are still under last years season ending payroll. They cleared Mike Camerons salary, Piazza's, Roger Cedanos (don't get me going on that thief) and others. With some bullpen help they are in a position to over take the Braves. Although I am not sold yet because even though the Braves had made no moves and lost a solid SS, they cannot be counted out. Bobby Cox is a freakin' magician with that team. The Philly's will contend but I don't think they have enough. The Nationals played over their heads much of the season and the Marlins....who cares at this point.

I'm not sure I agreed with the money given to a juner baller like Byrd for Cleveland. They have a lot of their younger up nad coming players due for contracts soon and they are going to want to get paid. Better to keep the core of that team together and happy then pull in a journymen like Byrd. Not that its a bad pickup for Flammin' RiverWarriors but I don't think its enough to put them over the top of the White Sox.
 
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RE: LoDuca To Mets, Byrd To Tribe. Shift Of Power?

Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:54 am

Byrd is, hopefully, a replacement for Scott Elarton in the Indians rotation for '06. Elarton was maybe the best 5th starter in the game last year with the Indians. Now, if the Tribe signs Byrd AND Elarton, and loses Millwood to the Mariners or someone else, then that's a step backward.

It's also hot here in CLE that Trevor Hoffman is very close to signing with the Indians. The only fear of the Indians' brass right now is that San Diego, who has shown little interest in signing him up to now, may jump in at the last minute with a big offer.

The only bat that has been discusses so far this off-season for the Indians is Nomar Garciaparra, which is intriguing, but word is he wants to go to the Left Coast, but the Indians are still after him.

Indians needs this off season were, as follows: First Baseman; Right Fielder; Right-handed bat; Signing at least one starter; signing a closer.

Right now, they've lost Bob Howry, which is huge, but Arthur Rhodes should be back for a full season this year, so that can be mitigated. Losing Millwood, who showed the young pitchers how to handle themselves, just can't be replaced.
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RE: LoDuca To Mets, Byrd To Tribe. Shift Of Power?

Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:11 am

Somehow in the NL East, Atlanta always finds a way to win, guess it call a good farm system. I feel sorry for the Nationals fans, that situation is a mess, with no owner yet, no one to make decisions. Mets with their additional should at leasf fight for a wild card spot.

What's up with the NL West, no one is really improving their teams. 2001 seems SO long ago for Diamondback fans, the Dodgers need more than a shortstop, the Padres lucked out last year in such a pitifully division, and the Rockies without pitching will always find themselves need the bottom. Giants will need more than Bonds back, with a team full of people eligible for AARP.
 
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RE: LoDuca To Mets, Byrd To Tribe. Shift Of Power?

Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:29 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 3):
Somehow in the NL East, Atlanta always finds a way to win, guess it call a good farm system

At least win the division. Further than that is a crap shoot. I've been a Braves fan since I can remember. I grew up in Richmond, home of their AAA team, and along with what you mention about their farm system, you have to give a lot of the credit to Bobby Cox. Like KROC said in an earlier post, he "is a freakin' magician with that team" In a game this year, he had eight rookies in the starting lineup.  crazy 
 
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RE: LoDuca To Mets, Byrd To Tribe. Shift Of Power?

Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:30 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 2):
It's also hot here in CLE

What happened? Did someone drop a lit cigarette into the Cuyahoga again?
 
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RE: LoDuca To Mets, Byrd To Tribe. Shift Of Power?

Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:34 am

Quoting KROC (Reply 5):
Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 2):
It's also hot here in CLE

What happened? Did someone drop a lit cigarette into the Cuyahoga again?

Score one for KROC. Man, did I give him the match on that one.  Silly
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RE: LoDuca To Mets, Byrd To Tribe. Shift Of Power?

Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:09 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 2):
The only bat that has been discusses so far this off-season for the Indians is Nomar Garciaparra, which is intriguing, but word is he wants to go to the Left Coast, but the Indians are still after him.

That's the rumor, but I've also heard he's entertained offers from the Pirates and Devil Rays of all people. I don't know if he's quite that desperate yet. If anything the Cubs might make him an offer to come back now that they've lost out on the Furcal sweepstakes.

I agree the Byrd pick-up is a good one if they lose Elarton. As long as they keep the core of that team together they should challenge the White Sox for the division.
 
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RE: LoDuca To Mets, Byrd To Tribe. Shift Of Power?

Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:14 am

Of all the stupid trades Paul DePodesta made during his thankfully somewhat (but not enough) brief time as GM of the Dodgers, by far and away unloading LoDuca to the Marlins was the worst.

The Dodgers lost (as KROC says) one of the most hard-nosed players in the majors. LoDuca was always a solid bat, and a dependable presence behind the plate. The thing, though, was what he meant in the clubhouse. And in a room that included the psycho Milton Bradley, LoDuca's precense was always a positive.

The Mets could be getting a superb, dependable ballplayer, who'd be a leader in that clubhouse. Who knows, LoDuca could be the guy that takes the Mets to the promised land.

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