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Denmark Manage To Piss Off The Muslim World....

Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:11 pm

So..This thread is about freedom of speech.
Denmark has managed to piss of the Muslim world. It was pretty easy. All it took was 12 drawings of the profet Muhammed.
A couple of months ago 12 animators from one of our major newspapers in Denmark gave their vision of how Muhammed looks like, and printed it in the newspaper. And according to Muslim Law it's illegal to draw a picture of Muhammed.

This has caused a scenery that the animators never could imagine. They have recieved death threats from all over the world. And Many muslim countries have turned their back towards Denmark, and they have complained to the UN about this matter. And wants our Prime minister to appologize. But he refuses because of our freedom of speech in Denmark that we live under.

Can anyone explaine to me why Muhammed the Profet is so holy that people are getting deathtreats if they draw him?
You see movies and cartoons about our God all the time. Just look at the Simpsons for example. They make fun of him pretty often. And that doesn't piss us of like this.
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:18 pm

Quoting OYRJA (Thread starter):
And according to Muslim Law it's illegal to draw a picture of Muhammed.

Is Sharia Law enforced in Denmark? Can anyone show that these drawings have harmed Muhammed? No? Then the Danes should tell those who are upset that they can stick their complaints someplace dark and damp...

Quoting OYRJA (Thread starter):
Can anyone explaine to me why Muhammed the Profet is so holy that people are getting deathtreats if they draw him?
You see movies and cartoons about our God all the time. Just look at the Simpsons for example. They make fun of him pretty often. And that doesn't piss us of like this.

Simple. We live in the 21st century, and they live in the 12th.

To be fair, Christian societies were no better then they in the 12th century.

[Edited 2005-12-08 13:20:00]
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:25 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
To be fair, Christian societies were no better then they in the 12th century.

some 'christian' societies are still no better ... then again , some of them are still living in the 12th century
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:27 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
Is Sharia Law enforced in Denmark? Can anyone show that these drawings have harmed Muhammed? No? Then the Danes should tell those who are upset that they can stick their complaints someplace dark and damp...

Thats what our Prime minister said as well. But The Muslims won't accept it. That is why they have written to the UN. Especially Pakistan and Egypt are pissed at the moment over it.
I mean c'mone. They didn't want to harm anyone with these drawings.
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:58 pm

OYRJA;

Whas this drawing in JyllandsPosten? Read about it in Expessen,I think the muslims are going hysterical over this "cartoon". Cant they spell joke and irony?

Pathetic...

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Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:03 pm

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 4):
Whas this drawing in JyllandsPosten? Read about it in Expessen,I think the muslims are going hysterical over this "cartoon". Cant they spell joke and irony?

Yes thats the one. They had 12 drawings of Muhammed.
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:13 pm

According to Islam, representations of the human form are a form of heresy, especially if they are those of the prophet. That is why Islamic art involves some of the best calligraphy in the world, but other than art created in the Mughal Courts of India that does represent human forms (and created by non-Muslims generally), you see no art showing humans.

That having been said, Denmark should tell Pakistan and Egypt to go to hell. Danes are not subject to the Sharia; neither is the state of Denmark.

Denmark should send both countries a care package of their ripest and stinkiest cheese.
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:27 pm

Well done Denmark.

I'm all for respecting other religions and beliefs, but when these other's decide that you MUST do as they say, then the time for respect begins to evaporate.

Unfortunately, the Muslim world has this idea that they are the only correct religion and that no-one should be allowed to say anything against them. They certainly do need to learn that other people's of the world have different ideas and that they should not take umbrage every time someone pokes fun at them. They certainly need to cultivate a sense of humour.

While I don't think it is right to lampoon another religion or belief to the extent of mocking it, I do think that harmless cartoons and jokes are just that, harmless. This sort of knee jerk reaction is what makes the Muslim world a laughing stock in many countries and does nothing to help foster tolerance and understanding.

If they wish to be treated with respect, Muslim countries need to be able to cope with this sort of thing without going off half cocked at every percieved slight.

No doubt this will lead to threats of retaliation by extremists and thugs who have no real concept of what it is to live in a world full of people who have different ideas than themselves, and whose only answer to criticism is violence.

Go for it Denmark.

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Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:40 pm

Quoting OYRJA (Thread starter):
12 animators from one of our major newspapers in Denmark gave their vision of how Muhammed looks like, and printed it in the newspaper

?!?! How dare they! durkadurkadurka fatwah! Kill them for not doing as we say they should!

Quoting OYRJA (Thread starter):
They have recieved death threats from all over the world. And Many muslim countries have turned their back towards Denmark, and they have complained to the UN about this matter. And wants our Prime minister to appologize

Wow, that's reasonable.  Yeah sure

Quoting OYRJA (Thread starter):
You see movies and cartoons about our God all the time. Just look at the Simpsons for example. They make fun of him pretty often. And that doesn't piss us of like this

Yeah, but we are a civilizes people, for the most part, and we don't execute people for exercising free speech that harms no one. I think we figure that (A) God and Jesus can take it, and (B) if there is retribution to be had for such blasphemy then it'll be delivered by them in the next world in their own time.

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 2):
Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
To be fair, Christian societies were no better then they in the 12th century.

some 'christian' societies are still no better ... then again , some of them are still living in the 12th century

oh, STFU. That's as reactionary as anything said here. Your description is incorrect, as the only actual Christian state out there is the Vatican and the last I heard there has not been a Pope who called for the death of religious offenders in a few hundred years.
People like you who hate religion enough to lie about it get those reasonable doubters painted with the same brush by association and make it nearly impossible to have a reasonable conversation.

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 3):
But The Muslims won't accept it. That is why they have written to the UN. Especially Pakistan and Egypt are pissed at the moment over it.

Yeah, I think they have other problems that force their government to say something. The large populations of fundamentalist Islamics who subscribe to the zealot imams that preach death and destruction are easily agitated and need to be mollified. It sucks and I don't think Denmark owes anyone an apology, but that's why those governments said anything to begin with.

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 3):
They didn't want to harm anyone with these drawings

Now....there....are you sure about that? Did any of these illustrations depict a satirical version of Muhammed definitely intended to offend? Not that it should make a difference, but lets be accurate. I have not seen them, so you tell me. I'll trust your judgement on that.

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 6):
Denmark should send both countries a care package of their ripest and stinkiest cheese.

I think that's a good idea, but the cheese needs to be sent to the radical imams who foment such idiocy in the name of religion with the purpose of maintaining power.
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:40 pm

Did any of the pictures have Mohammed wearing clogs? Perhaps that's why they got mad  Wink
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:51 pm

Quoting DL021 (Reply 8):
Now....there....are you sure about that? Did any of these illustrations depict a satirical version of Muhammed definitely intended to offend? Not that it should make a difference, but lets be accurate. I have not seen them, so you tell me. I'll trust your judgement on that.

I'm trying to see if I can find the pictures so I can post them. The animators said themselves that they never would have drawn the pictures if they knew what was coming to them.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 8):
Wow, that's reasonable.

I'm not an anti Muslim at all. I have nothing agains Muslims as long as they aren't nutcases. I honestly hope that he won't appologize. It's Denmark. We should be allowed to have our freedom of speech.
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:56 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 9):
Did any of the pictures have Mohammed wearing clogs? Perhaps that's why they got mad

Or a kilt and some sheep in the background, and a facial resemblance with Kirkie...ok, that would at least explain their being pissed off...
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:07 pm

Quoting Andreas (Reply 11):
Or a kilt and some sheep in the background, and a facial resemblance with Kirkie...ok, that would at least explain their being pissed off...

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Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:11 pm

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 10):
Quoting DL021 (Reply 8):
Wow, that's reasonable.

I'm not an anti Muslim at all. I have nothing agains Muslims as long as they aren't nutcases. I honestly hope that he won't appologize. It's Denmark. We should be allowed to have our freedom of speech.

You did understand that I was being ironic there, and find the entire radical muslim reaction to be idiotically and dangerously stupid....right?

I only explain because I know your shoes sometimes constrict the flow of blood to your brain and I need to type v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y for you....  Wink
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:13 pm

I would love at some point for the Muslim religion to realize the world does not, in fact, revolve around them.

This brings thin-skinned to a whole new level....
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:53 pm

Quoting DL021 (Reply 8):
Your description is incorrect, as the only actual Christian state out there is the Vatican and the last I heard there has not been a Pope who called for the death of religious offenders in a few hundred years.

firstly - if you had bothered to read what I wrote actually wrote, I said 'societies' not 'states' - a society does not have to be a nation , it can just be a group ... and if you think that there are no extremist / hatefilled / backward christian groups out there then you haven't been paying much attention to what has gone on in the world the last hundred years or so - 'christians' who bomb abortion clinics , 'christians' commiting genocide in against muslims in Bosnia , 'christians' commiting genocide against Jews in Europe , 'christians' who hold noisy celebrations at the funerals of gay men who have died from HIV/AIDS , 'christians' who claim that New Orleans got 'what it deserved' for being a 'sinful' place . Please note also that nowhere did I say that "ALL CHRISTIANS" are like this - I said 'some' ( unlike the poster to whom I was responding with his blanket assertion that 'they' ie Muslims 'live in the 12th century ) .

secondly , since you have chosen to bring the vatican and popes into the discussion - the current and previous popes are/were both living in the 12th century as far as human rights are concerned - both of them mysogynist and homophobic - I would have to say that Ratzinger measures up well against any of the more extreme and intolerant clerics that any of the other religions can muster .
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:54 pm

Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
You did understand that I was being ironic there, and find the entire radical muslim reaction to be idiotically and dangerously stupid....right?

Yeah I did  Smile But I just wanted to tell our muslim members in here my point of view with the whole case without being called a racist or a Anti Muslim  Smile

Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
I only explain because I know your shoes sometimes constrict the flow of blood to your brain and I need to type v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y for you....

Hehehehe...... Smartass  Wink Big grin
 
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Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:59 pm

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Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:11 am

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 10):
The animators said themselves that they never would have drawn the pictures if they knew what was coming to them.

A apology from the animators would have solved much of the problems, fiddling with someone's religion and then putting it out in the media for the whole world to see does not make this issue Danish.
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:14 am

Quoting Emirates773ER (Reply 18):
A apology from the animators would have solved much of the problems, fiddling with someone's religion and then putting it out in the media for the whole world to see does not make this issue Danish.

This coming from the same person that advocates torture of homosexuals.

Europe has freedom of the media, something precious few Muslim countries have. Fortunately, we can write whatever the hell we want in our media. If certain people, religions or countries don't like it, too bad.
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:30 am

Quoting OYRJA (Thread starter):
This has caused a scenery that the animators never could imagine. They have recieved death threats from all over the world. And Many muslim countries have turned their back towards Denmark, and they have complained to the UN about this matter. And wants our Prime minister to appologize. But he refuses because of our freedom of speech in Denmark that we live under.

All this outrage over a lousy CGI pic of their leader ???

No wonder many of these idiots are despised around the world..........
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:40 am

All but a few of us know of the sensitivity and offense to the Islamac faith of depections of the founder of that faith. It is difficult for everybody to know every little thing about cultures we know little about. It is also a problem that some will not accept forgiveness for an unintentional transgression and that they will choose threats of or carry out acts of violence.
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:54 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 19):
This coming from the same person that advocates torture of homosexuals.

Europe has freedom of the media, something precious few Muslim countries have. Fortunately, we can write whatever the hell we want in our media. If certain people, religions or countries don't like it, too bad.

Where did the homosexuals come from in the picture? Let's not forget that I did not "advocate torture" but insisted on them being treated mildly plus they were Muslims in a Muslim country, I would never have said anything if they would be foreigners or followers of other religions. You got the freedom alright but the respect for others is truly missing.
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:58 am

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Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:10 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
Simple. We live in the 21st century, and they live in the 12th.

Yup- hence the battle for what is Western Civilization, not just the war against terror. The sooner people realize the broader scope of what's at stake the better.

Quoting Beefstew25 (Reply 14):
I would love at some point for the Muslim religion to realize the world does not, in fact, revolve around them.

Exactly-
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:33 am

Quoting OYRJA (Thread starter):
caused a scenery that the animators never could imagine

WHY did they NOT imagine what they were about to "cause" ? wasn't it fairly obvious ?

Quoting OYRJA (Thread starter):
explaine to me why Muhammed the Profet is so holy that people are getting deathtreats if they draw him?

the question is NOT about "how holy" but simply that "making picture" of God and/or Prophet Mohammed is absolutely out of the question in Islam, as a definite dogma.

Quoting OYRJA (Thread starter):
see movies and cartoons about our God all the time

"our God" ? it is the SAME God in case of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. There are just some, relatively minor, theological differences in force. Mostly about Jesus who A) by the Jews is handled as a crook, B) by the Christians as THE "son-of-God" , C) by the Muslims as just a B-class prophet .
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:34 am

Quoting Emirates773ER (Reply 22):
Where did the homosexuals come from in the picture?

Hmmm, I'll tell you.

In the Phanerozoic Eon we had the Cenozoic Era which led to the Pleistocene. And that's where homosexual's came from. Been here ever since.
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:42 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
Is Sharia Law enforced in Denmark? Can anyone show that these drawings have harmed Muhammed? No? Then the Danes should tell those who are upset that they can stick

Right you are, but what about tact and respect ?

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
We live in the 21st century, and they live in the 12th.

Why NOT having it a bit more exact ? Today is the 6th Dhu'l Qada of the year 1426 AH --- which means the 15th century !
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:43 am

Quoting Slider (Reply 24):
Yup- hence the battle for what is Western Civilization, not just the war against terror. The sooner people realize the broader scope of what's at stake the better.

I remember that someone once asked Mahatma Ghandi what he thought about Western Civilization , he pondered for a moment , and then replied that he thought "It would be a good idea"
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:43 am

Quoting Emirates773ER (Reply 22):
You got the freedom alright but the respect for others is truly missing.

Who cares. I don't have to respect anyone. I don't respect a lot of Muslims, the ones sending threats to Danish newspapers in particular. I also don't respect people who advocate torture based on sexuality, as you did.
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:50 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 25):
the question is NOT about "how holy" but simply that "making picture" of God and/or Prophet Mohammed is absolutely out of the question in Islam, as a definite dogma.

Well, then Islamic's can abstain from 'making pictures' of their guy. Non-Islamics should be able to do as they wish.

Offending someone is not a crime. Muslim's need to growth a pair, and quit the whining anytime they may have been slighted....
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:01 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 4):
the muslims are going hysterical over this

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while you embark on a generalisation. "THE Muslims" ? Some Muslim government functionaries and some "assorted" Muslims, but not much else. While THEIR behaviour border to the childish, the "Danish" approach borders to the thoroughly careless.
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:04 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 6):
Denmark should tell Pakistan and Egypt to go to hell. Danes are not subject to the Sharia; neither is the state of Denmark.

Egypt is NOT subject to the Sharia either. But what about the Danish government clearly but politely explaining THEIR position ? Why always getting rough in such situations ?
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:06 am

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 10):
I honestly hope that he won't appologize.

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he should N O T apologize ! as there is no reason for an apology ! but he should politely and clearly EXPLAIN
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:07 am

Quoting Andreas (Reply 11):
a facial resemblance with Kirkie...ok, that would at least explain their being pissed off...

are you sure that this is NOT the case ?????
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:08 am

Quoting FDXMECH (Reply 26):
Hmmm, I'll tell you.

In the Phanerozoic Eon we had the Cenozoic Era which led to the Pleistocene. And that's where homosexual's came from. Been here ever since.

Thanks for the explanation, it was convincing.

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 29):
Who cares. I don't have to respect anyone. I don't respect a lot of Muslims, the ones sending threats to Danish newspapers in particular. I also don't respect people who advocate torture based on sexuality, as you did.

Disrespectful is the word you need.
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:09 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 32):
But what about the Danish government clearly but politely explaining THEIR position ? Why always getting rough in such situations ?

The Danish government had nothing to do with the cartoon.

Muslims chopping hostage's head offs offends me. I would like an apology.
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:17 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
Simple. We live in the 21st century, and they live in the 12th.

Great - so we only have 900 more years of this to look forward to? Lovely.  Wink
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:51 am

Quoting Emirates773ER (Reply 22):
You got the freedom alright but the respect for others is truly missing

Riiiigghhht. As if Muslims have a history of tolerance and respect for others...

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 28):
I remember that someone once asked Mahatma Ghandi what he thought about Western Civilization , he pondered for a moment , and then replied that he thought "It would be a good idea"

I remember that. Great Quote!

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Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:19 am

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Muslims chopping hostage's head offs offends me. I would like an apology

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Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:31 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 19):

Europe has freedom of the media, something precious few Muslim countries have. Fortunately, we can write whatever the hell we want in our media. If certain people, religions or countries don't like it, too bad.

And to think that Iran, along with Europe is one of the vocal countries who want to wrest control of the internet. Ya, thats a good idea, they and China will surely not infringe on any free speech.
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:32 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 32):
But what about the Danish government clearly but politely explaining THEIR position ?

Why should Danish government bother to explain activities of a certain publication, a private entity I presume?
Besides, isn't there a truckload of other problems to deal with - more important than few cartoons ina newspaper on the other end of the globe? Taking care of the Pakistani earthquake victims before the winter starts killing them by hundreds?
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:35 am

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 15):
'christians' commiting genocide in against muslims in Bosnia , 'christians' commiting genocide against Jews in Europe

Were either of those two actions taken in the name of religion? Or were they committed in the quest for power and control over real estate?

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 15):
who hold noisy celebrations at the funerals of gay men who have died from HIV/AIDS

Very small minority.

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 15):
who claim that New Orleans got 'what it deserved' for being a 'sinful' place

another very small minority which is not tolerated or listened to by the majority.

These minority splinter violent people and groups are in fact reviled and mocked by the majority and they cause no fear and exert no control.

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 15):
Please note also that nowhere did I say that "ALL CHRISTIANS" are like this - I said 'some' ( unlike the poster to whom I was responding with his blanket assertion that 'they' ie Muslims 'live in the 12th century ) .

Yeah, but you insinuated and you know it. As far as the muslim world, well perhaps 12th century is incorrect. They are a mixture of where we were during the 15th century politically and religiously, but have modern weapons and the ability to travel easily.

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 15):
firstly - if you had bothered to read what I wrote actually wrote, I said 'societies' not 'states' - a society does not have to be a nation , it can just be a group ... and if you think that there are no extremist / hatefilled / backward christian groups out there then you haven't been

Once again...you are blowing this out of proportion in order to demonize a larger group that does not tolerate such violence or open hatred.

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 16):
Hehehehe...... Smartass

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Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:38 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 42):
Better than the alternative.

Conservative?  Wink
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RE: Denmark Manage To Piss Off The Muslim World....

Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:40 am

No big deal -- pretty much everything manages to piss off Edit: parts of the Muslim world.

Hell, two idiot Muslim teenagers can run from the police, hide in a power plant, and end up electrifying themselves to death, and that manages to piss them off enough to hold countless riots and burn hundreds of cars.

I just think a lot of people (not just Muslims) want to raise hell over any thing that they can.




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RE: Denmark Manage To Piss Off The Muslim World....

Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:44 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 42):
Once again...you are blowing this out of proportion in order to demonize a larger group that does not tolerate such violence or open hatred.

what , you mean just like some of the people in this thread who are demonizing muslims in general because of the actions of a few ?

I am just pointing out that this is not black and white - people seem to be suggesting that all christians are automatically good and all muslims are automatically bad - it is interesting that as soon as I point out that some
( and I will repeat that since you seem determined to miss the point ) some christians are just as bad as some muslims you attack me with the same blind fury that many here are accusing muslims in general of .
 
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RE: Denmark Manage To Piss Off The Muslim World....

Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:26 am

Everything else aside I would like to take a moment of joy in the fact that the Muslim world is pissed as hell at some country, and for once it isn't America!! cloudnine  This can't be pinned on us!!

Enjoy it, cause it won't last.
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RE: Denmark Manage To Piss Off The Muslim World....

Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:56 am

Quoting Emirates773ER (Reply 22):

I've read quite a few of your posts and they are pretty radical for someone whos username stands next to the Canadian flag. Frankly I think you should consider a change to the Saudi flag, or perhaps even moving there if the West offends you so greatly. You obviously don't agree with some of the most important rights and freedoms of Canada, yet you do enjoy the freedom to say so. I am fully aware that there are no pictures of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH), and I hope you also have no family photos on your walls or pictures of yourself anywhere, in strict accordance with Islamic code. However, Denmark is not a Muslim nation, and neither you, nor any other Muslim should take offence at what was clearly never intended to be offensive. Do you not understand that it is this kind of lack of understanding and tolerance that will send us all back to the stone age?
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RE: Denmark Manage To Piss Off The Muslim World....

Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:21 am

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 23):
Thanks, Denmark.

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RE: Denmark Manage To Piss Off The Muslim World....

Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:37 am

Quoting Bhxfaotipyyc (Reply 47):
I've read quite a few of your posts and they are pretty radical for someone whos username stands next to the Canadian flag. Frankly I think you should consider a change to the Saudi flag, or perhaps even moving there if the West offends you so greatly. You obviously don't agree with some of the most important rights and freedoms of Canada, yet you do enjoy the freedom to say so. I am fully aware that there are no pictures of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH), and I hope you also have no family photos on your walls or pictures of yourself anywhere, in strict accordance with Islamic code. However, Denmark is not a Muslim nation, and neither you, nor any other Muslim should take offence at what was clearly never intended to be offensive. Do you not understand that it is this kind of lack of understanding and tolerance that will send us all back to the stone age?

I got at least 5 photo's on my wall here in my office and bedroom so there is NO way in the world that I am a radical. About the change of my flag, I guess you should know that I am totally against all the tyrannical regimes of the middle east and the Saudi's are in the top 3. Denmark is not a Muslim nation neither were the animators of the pictures Muslims so doesn't it make sense that you do not fiddle around with someone who you are not concerned with? If I take a picture of your wife and hang it in my living room how will you feel if you came over to my house for lunch? Just a thought.
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