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X Mas Songs+Happy B Day:Who Wrote Them And When?

Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:54 pm

As the heading says, would you be able to tell me who wrote the christmas songs or at least when they were written ? For exaple, we hear everywhere and in different languages "Jingle Bells", "Silent night", "We wish you a merry christmas" etc...

Concerning Happy Birthhday ,we have heard it with the same melody in many many different languages and I suppose its been going for ages...

Are these songs the result of commercial campagins that took place amny years ago (such as the fact that Santa Claus' Red comes from coca cola )? Or some famous musician who relsleased the song at some time


Thanks in advance to anyone who could answer my question ...

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RE: X Mas Songs+Happy B Day:Who Wrote Them And When?

Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:14 am

Happy Birthday was written by two sisters from Kentucky, Mildred J. Hill and Patty Smith Hill. This can be verified at snopes.com which has quite a bit of information about it.

http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/birthday.asp

There are many websites out there giving information about music, who composed it, lyrics and so on. I'd just google it by title and you will find more answers than you can remember.
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RE: X Mas Songs+Happy B Day:Who Wrote Them And When?

Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:16 am

For the holiday tunes, I'm sure with some poking around on the internet, the composers could be found. Chances are good that, they have become, what's known as "public domain", and anyone can perform them, without any sort of composer getting money.

For "Happy Birthday" however, I pulled THIS off the Wikipedia site, as I was curious, too: (SlamClick used the best source, and beat me by mere seconds, looks like...)

The melody of "Happy Birthday to You" was written by American sisters Patty and Mildred Hill in 1893 when they were school teachers in Louisville, Kentucky. The verse was originally intended as a classroom greeting entitled "Good Morning to All". The lyrics were copyrighted in 1935, 11 years before Patty's death, and the ownership has swapped hands in multi-million dollar deals ever since; the copyright is currently owned by Time Warner (a subsidiary of which bought the rights in 1988) and is scheduled to expire in 2030. It thus follows that unauthorized public performances of the song are technically illegal. It is not completely certain who wrote the lyrics to "Happy Birthday to You."


So, I guess next time we sing it at my daughters b-day, I owe Time Warner five cents?!?!??!?!

[Edited 2005-12-19 16:18:04]
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RE: X Mas Songs+Happy B Day:Who Wrote Them And When?

Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:28 am

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
such as the fact that Santa Claus' Red comes from coca cola

Please correct your very common misconception here.


Kay

[Edited 2005-12-19 16:32:35]
 
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RE: X Mas Songs+Happy B Day:Who Wrote Them And When?

Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:29 am

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 2):
SlamClick used the best source

Actually  Smile I knew who wrote it so I Googled "patty hill happy" and got dozens of relevant hits right away. I selected snopes first against the chance that it was NOT true.
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