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Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:09 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/21/britain.elton/index.html
I'm not an expert in this theme, but following a Royal tradition the spouse of somebody who received the title "Sir" from HRH The Queen is called "Lady".

I will appreciate if the British citizens here at A.net can clarify me this peculiar situation.

Thanks a lot in advance.

[Edited 2005-12-21 15:10:13]

[Edited 2005-12-21 15:18:44]
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:28 pm

Quoting TACAA320 (Thread starter):
I'm not an expert in this theme, but following a Royal tradition the spouse of somebody who received the title "Sir" from HRH The Queen is called "Lady".

Sorry, we´r too busy finding someone to marry Freddy Mercury.

signed, British citizens.
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:29 pm

"Luvvie" or a "Queens consort" maybe?
 
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:33 pm

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 1):

Sorry, we´r too busy finding someone to marry Freddy Mercury.

signed, British citizens.

Only you can give such an answer!
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:40 pm

It will be like Little Britain!
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:49 pm

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 1):
Quoting TACAA320 (Thread starter):
I'm not an expert in this theme, but following a Royal tradition the spouse of somebody who received the title "Sir" from HRH The Queen is called "Lady".

Sorry, we´r too busy finding someone to marry Freddy Mercury.

signed, British citizens.

Hope you find a matching corpse.
He's been dead for years.
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:50 pm

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 5):
He's been dead for years.

Of course. But never is too late.
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:57 pm

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 5):
Hope you find a matching corpse.
He's been dead for years.

but his soul is still alive in all of brits hearts (kind poetic isn´t it)
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:17 am

yes I often get the urge to don my leather pants and handle bar 'tash!!!
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:21 am

No. The wife of a knight can be called "Lady" if she bears no higher title. The spouse of a knight is not accorded the courtesy. Nor is the husband of a Dame (female knight) allowed to be called "Sir" or even "Lady".  Smile
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:40 am

Quoting Nordair (Reply 9):
No. The wife of a knight can be called "Lady" if she bears no higher title. The spouse of a knight is not accorded the courtesy. Nor is the husband of a Dame (female knight) allowed to be called "Sir" or even "Lady".

Well, according with the Press Office at Buckingham Palace they have such doubt [about Furnish's title]. A CNN journalist placed such question, and the answer was "We need to study the answer". I heard that this in the morning news.

[I'm not saying that what you said is not true. I'm just simply curious about this particular situation].
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:49 am

Wouldn't a queen be offended by being called a lady?
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:02 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):
Wouldn't a queen be offended by being called a lady?

I get it, but I doubt many here will.  Wink


There is a story about the present Queen Elizabeth when she was a little girl. She was with her grandmother, the very grand Queen Mary. Elizabeth was helped out of a car by a gentleman who said to her, "There you go young lady."

Elizabeth promptly corrected the man, "I am not a lady. I am a princess."

Queen Mary acidly remarked, "Yes, this is Princess Elizabeth and we hope that one day she will behave as a lady."
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:49 am

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=LADYLady Chiefly British. A general feminine title of nobility and other rank, specifically:
Used as the title for the wife or widow of a knight or baronet.
Used as a form of address for a marchioness, countess, viscountess, baroness, or baronetess.
Used as a form of address for the wife or widow of a baron.
Used as a courtesy title for the daughter of a duke, a marquis, or an earl.
Used as a courtesy title for the wife of a younger son of a duke or marquis.

"Used as the title for the wife or widow of a knight or baronet. "
I think fits here.
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:42 am

Do you remember Daffyd interviewing Elton?

Quote:
DAFFYD: Right, any kids?

SIR ELTON: No.

DAFFYD: I often see you around and about with this chap David Furnish, is he one of your nephews?

SIR ELTON: No.

Daffyd writes in his notebook.

DAFFYD: Close friend. Okey dokey, now lets get on and talk about your work. Now when it comes to writing a song, Bernie Taupin, he writes the lyrics, and you add the music. Does it come quickly or do you find yourself staying up all night, bashing one out?

SIR ELTON: No I’ve always come quickly actually, yeah.

DAFFYD: Now, when you’re not writing or recording, you like to do light concerts don’t you?

SIR ELTON: Yes.

DAFFYD: Yes, in fact you’ve recently been playing in Las Vegas, do you enjoy filling Celine Dion’s slot?

SIR ELTON: I wish I could say yes, but no.

 
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:46 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):
Wouldn't a queen be offended by being called a lady?

truth is, wouldn´t Elton by offended by the other "dude" being called a lady?
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:49 am

Isn't Furnish a US citizen?

Thus, even if someone decided to change the rules to allow gay spouses to take titles, he wouldn't be allowed.
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:52 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 16):
Isn't Furnish a US citizen?

.

Canadian I thought
 
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:55 am

Somehow I just can't imagine calling Elton John, "SIR."

In any case, Furnish better keep SIR happy, or else, SIR will trade him in for a younger model.

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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:59 am

Does anybody knows how or what one must do to become a British Crow Knight?
I mean, all Elton do is sing, take up the ass and wear horrible clothes, why is he worthy of beeing a Knight?
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:08 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 18):
Somehow I just can't imagine calling Elton John, "SIR."

Does Sir Reg Dwight sound better? Big grin

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 17):
Canadian I thought

Oh. Shows how much I know.
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:28 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 16):
Isn't Furnish a US citizen?

According with RTE [Radio Television Española] he's from Canada.
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:30 am

Why even bother with this. The guy will be thrown out on the street the first time Elton has a fit.
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:38 am

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 19):
Does anybody knows how or what one must do to become a British Crow Knight?
I mean, all Elton do is sing, take up the ass and wear horrible clothes,

Just start singing and you've got it made!
 
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:49 am

You gotta love that wig! Designed by Donatella Versace Big grin

 
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:25 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Thread starter):
Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

I heard someone suggest that he should be called that, but just ponounce it "Laddie".

:D Big grin Big grin
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:49 am

NEWS ALERT !!!! NEWS ALERT !!!!

Elton John marries long time toy boy; no collapse of Western civilization reported.
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:50 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 18):
Somehow I just can't imagine calling Elton John, "SIR."

He isn't called SIR. It would be Sir Elton, or simply as Elton. He doesn't use it much.

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 19):
Does anybody knows how or what one must do to become a British Crow Knight?

The Queen made him a knight upon the advice of Her Government.

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 19):
take up the ass and wear horrible clothes, why is he worthy of beeing a Knight?

Does this mean you wish us to start addressing you as Sir Erikwilliam?
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:27 am

Quoting Nordair (Reply 12):
There is a story about the present Queen Elizabeth when she was a little girl. She was with her grandmother, the very grand Queen Mary. Elizabeth was helped out of a car by a gentleman who said to her, "There you go young lady."

Elizabeth promptly corrected the man, "I am not a lady. I am a princess."

Queen Mary acidly remarked, "Yes, this is Princess Elizabeth and we hope that one day she will behave as a lady."

Brilliant!

As for the Civil-Union, are Canadians entitled to Knighthoods?

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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:25 am

Quoting Nordair (Reply 27):

Does this mean you wish us to start addressing you as Sir Erikwilliam?

Sound nice.

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 24):
You gotta love that wig! Designed by Donatella Versace

I find it simply fugly. Looks like a bird of the Parrot Jungle.
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:31 pm

Maybe they should make him a Dame  Wink
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:55 pm

I hope that Sir Elton donates that suit to the earthquake victims in Pakistan - there's enough material to make a tent for at least 6 people.  Wink
 
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:00 pm

Quoting Rlwynn (Reply 22):
The guy will be thrown out on the street the first time Elton has a fit.

he hasn't been thrown out in 12 years of queensized Elton John tantrums - can't imagine he will be now
 
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:37 pm

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 28):
As for the Civil-Union, are Canadians entitled to Knighthoods?

Isn't the Queen still head of state in Canada (despite the best efforts of those dastardly French Quebecoise  Wink )? I guess that means he can be....
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:52 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 33):
I guess that means he can be....

Not necessarily. Not all countries where the Queen is Head of State allow their citizens knighthoods. Australia is a case in point.
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:54 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 34):
Not necessarily. Not all countries where the Queen is Head of State allow their citizens knighthoods. Australia is a case in point.

Ah but then no-one in their right mind would call an Australian Sir, thats what they say to us when they take our food or drink order  Wink
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:01 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 35):
Ah but then no-one in their right mind would call an Australian Sir

There's Sir Les Patterson. That seems about right, wouldn't you say?  Wink
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:02 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 36):
There's Sir Les Patterson. That seems about right, wouldn't you say?

Exactly - we made the mistake once and realised it would be a bad idea to repeat the experience Big grin
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:29 pm

Lady David Furnish doesn't sound quite right does it? Big grin

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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:30 pm

Quoting WellHung (Reply 23):
Just start singing and you've got it made!

HA-HA-HA very funny.

Quoting Nordair (Reply 27):
Does this mean you wish us to start addressing you as Sir Erikwilliam?

Yes that´ll be nice.
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:32 pm

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 39):
Quoting Nordair (Reply 27):
Does this mean you wish us to start addressing you as Sir Erikwilliam?

Yes that´ll be nice.

Dream on, son, dream on!!!!!!!!! Big grin

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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:44 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 35):
Ah but then no-one in their right mind would call an Australian Sir, thats what they say to us when they take our food or drink order

I wouldn't expect a knighthood any time soon with your manners.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 37):
Exactly - we made the mistake once and realised it would be a bad idea to repeat the experience

Actually you never made a mistake. Regal honours were always left to the Australian government. Are you too blinded by your little fairy-tale vision of your United Kingdom to understand this?

You see - we realised how absolutely ridiculous Knighthoods were several decades ago. We didn't need Sir Mick Jagger or the future Dame Jordan Andre' to tell us this.

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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:45 pm

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 41):
Actually you never made a mistake. Regal honours were always left to the Australian government. Are you too blinded by your little fairy-tale vision of your United Kingdom to understand this?

You see - we realised how absolutely ridiculous Knighthoods were several decades ago. We didn't need Sir Mick Jagger or the future Dame Jordan Andre' to tell us this.

Meowwwwwwwwwwwwww Big grin

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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:48 pm

BTW...

Cornish: Nobody (and I mean NOBODY) badmouths Sir Les.

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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:52 pm

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 41):
Actually you never made a mistake. Regal honours were always left to the Australian government. Are you too blinded by your little fairy-tale vision of your United Kingdom to understand this?

Ahhhhh. Hook, line and sinker! Big grin

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 43):
Cornish: Nobody (and I mean NOBODY) badmouths Sir Les.

I think Dame Edna has a bit of a problem with him. I mean, you never see them together, do you?
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:57 pm

I think Elton is SIR Mon-Thurs and David SIR Thurs-Sun, everyones happy!
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:57 pm

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 41):
or the future Dame Jordan Andre'

Good god - what an awful thought  Wink

Quoting Banco (Reply 44):
Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 43):
Cornish: Nobody (and I mean NOBODY) badmouths Sir Les.

I think Dame Edna has a bit of a problem with him. I mean, you never see them together, do you?

What ?? Are you suggesting Dame Edna might be Sir Les in drag ??  Wow!

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 41):
I wouldn't expect a knighthood any time soon with your manners.

Mine's being announced in the New Year, and Banco too - we're getting it for services to Australian-baiting  Wink
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:58 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 44):
Ahhhhh. Hook, line and sinker!

Uh, yeah - absolutely. (Reads teleprompter) "I was completely sucked into what was going on, and blindly and without any sarcastic intent, parody, or intentional flame-bait went about stating my opinion in the most blunt way possible."

Banco - how perceptive of you to suss it all out.

Wait a second, I mean:

Seriously Banco, how dare you side with idiots - you're better than that. Just because they want to destroy the inner spiritual core of my country shouldn't preclude my right to defend it. I am a passionate Australian, and as a passionate Australian I am totally obliged to defend the inner spiritual core of my country from people like Cornish - who live lives controlled by this covert agenda to belittle the achievments of my country. I will not stand for it. I will fight them in the forums, I will fight them in the chatrooms, I will fight them via email - and I will be victorious.

That's more like it, eh - old boy?

Quoting Banco (Reply 44):
I think Dame Edna has a bit of a problem with him. I mean, you never see them together, do you?

Edna's sold out. Sir Les has never lost the spirit.

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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:02 pm

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 47):
Quoting Banco (Reply 44):
Ahhhhh. Hook, line and sinker!

Uh, yeah - absolutely.

Actually we were just seeing if you were still up down there. Far more effective than saying QFF are you awake?  Wink

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 47):
I will not stand for it. I will fight them in the forums, I will fight them in the chatrooms, I will fight them via email - and I will be victorious.

Spoken like a true legendary British leader Big grin
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RE: Will Be David Furnish Called "Lady"?

Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:06 pm

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 47):
I will fight them in the forums, I will fight them in the chatrooms, I will fight them via email - and I will be victorious.

A fine piece of rhetoric. I' m not sure about the last line though. Maybe something about not giving up would scan better, don't you think?
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