Gatorman96
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Do You Believe In Fate?

Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:42 am

There is a thread in the Civil Av forum that got me thinking (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2505599/) about fate. If this family had left their home 2 seconds earlier or later, this would've never happened. If the NW 737 had landed a few feet earlier, they would've never overrun the runway. So many variables went wrong, and as a result, no one else in the car passed except for this six year-old. Do you believe in fate or pure coincidence? Any examples that would cause you to lean one way or another?

[Edited 2005-12-23 01:51:13]
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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:46 am

Fate is a joke. Short answer is no.


This incident is a coincidence. The kid died, sucks to be him, sucks for the family, but suing the airport, airline, and pilots isn't solving it.
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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:46 am

Yes, I do believe in fate!

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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:52 am

Sometimes there are things that happen that have such an astronomical odds of being pure coincidence that it makes you wonder.

I do believe we have a say in our own destiny, however, but sometimes it seems like things happen for a reason, although they are not always apparent (if ever.)

Somehow, I think we set our fate into motion with our actions and behaviors (like karma) but not always.

One of my favorite bumper stickers is: "Sometimes you are the windshield, sometimes you are the bug." Simplistic, but realistic.

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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:53 am

I don't believe in fate at all......if i did it would bring up the scary thought that our lives are pre programmed somehow.

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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:55 am

Quoting Skysurfer (Reply 4):
if i did it would bring up the scary thought that our lives are pre programmed somehow.

Is that the only reason you don't believe in fate?
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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:00 am

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 5):
Is that the only reason you don't believe in fate?

Nope, but it works for me. Some people would argue that fate is linked to religion etc, and i'm not that religious either. Is fate the same as destiny, and is coincidence the same as chance/luck? I believe we're just in the right place at the right/wrong time to give an outcome we percieve as either 'lucky' or unlucky'.

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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:13 pm

I believe in fate, and I also believe in coinedence. There is a reason for everything, and i learn to accept it. There is a reason why we ran into people on the street, why we meet new people at work, why we have car accidents, why we have plane crashes, there is a time and purpose for everything, and only time can tell. but i dont worry about fate, i really believe we cant contorl what happens to us, but we cna control what WE do. So live life to the fullest and try to have a great life and let it go.

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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:13 pm

There has to be a catalyst for every event. Things dont just happen by coincidence, if they did then nobody would be wondering why a six year old who was singing along to bruce springsteen in full holiday spirit was dead 3 seconds later.
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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:04 pm

I believe we share common destinies, and fate is nothing more than the realization of what we've set into motion to learn from on our way there. While I believe fate is inevitable, all things must come to fruition, I don't believe fate can be explained away by using the law of averages, or anything we don't have ultimate control over.
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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:40 am

Fate yes,but We determine it to an extent.
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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:06 pm

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 8):
There has to be a catalyst for every event. Things dont just happen by coincidence, if they did then nobody would be wondering why a six year old who was singing along to bruce springsteen in full holiday spirit was dead 3 seconds later.

Pure rationalization. Humans are simply not mentally equipped to deal with random coincidence.

"Fate" is an interpretation - almost always retroactively - that is applied to only those few cases which get caught in the subjective "weird filter" while everything else is simply shrugged off.

The concept tells a lot about how our minds work - but very little about how the world works!
 
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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:17 am

Fate is what we make.
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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Sun Dec 25, 2005 2:55 am

I do believe in fate, along with predestination of everything. I also believe that because of predestination, everything can be predicted if one knows enough of the mechanics of how things work.

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RE: Do You Believe In Fate?

Sun Dec 25, 2005 3:14 am

Only in that I believe if you don't plan ahead a little bit and put in some sincere effort you are destined to accomplish nothing, be nothing or have nothing - or all three.

Is that fate?

There are some wildcards in our lives. Just about every factor that we don't firmly control is going to exert some influence on the outcome of our endeavors. That is not fate, it is simple the effects of causes you have not been permitted, or not bothered to observe.

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