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Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:12 pm

Are you frightened? Do you want to completely erase the origin of this day?
I think it's quite depressing seeing clever people trying to cancel the word Christ, and sincerely I don't think it's so intelligent.
 
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:15 pm

I write 'Christmas', and Im athiest.

Funny that the 'birth of Christ' is celebrated on a day that most agree isnt actually his birthday.
 
Mir
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:34 pm

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
I think it's quite depressing seeing clever people trying to cancel the word Christ, and sincerely I don't think it's so intelligent.

I think it's just laziness or lack of space to spell it out fully.

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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Sun Dec 25, 2005 11:04 pm

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

It's just an abbrevation, why all the fuss  sarcastic 

Christ = Crucifix = A cross = The letter 'x'

Very simple  Wink
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Sun Dec 25, 2005 11:10 pm

The Greek name for Christ is Xristos, therefore early Christians used the X as a kind of shorthand notation for the word Christ. Later Christians, not understanding the Greek word, thought it was out of disrespect.

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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Sun Dec 25, 2005 11:18 pm

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 4):
The Greek name for Christ is Xristos, therefore early Christians used the X as a kind of shorthand notation for the word Christ.

Man, you learn something new every day!

Thanks for the post, Harry...I like that explanation!
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:46 am

Quoting AzoresLover (Reply 5):

Man, you learn something new every day!

Thanks for the post, Harry...I like that explanation!

No problem, I had that grilled into me in Catholic middle school. Those nuns can be tough.  Wink

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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:12 am

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
I think it's quite depressing seeing clever people trying to cancel the word Christ, and sincerely I don't think it's so intelligent.

And I think it's depressing that modern Christians are ignorant as to the roots of the religion. Like Harry points out, the "X" in Xmas isn't an "X," but the Greek letter "Chi." Think about the "Jesus fish" that are oh-so popular. They don't spell IXOYE on them, but rather Ichthus, spelled Iota-Chi-Theta-Upsilon-Sigma.

Thus it has NOTHING to do with "taking the Christ out of Christmas," but is rather an artifact from a different language that has carried through the history of Christianity
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:13 am

It is the forerunner of today's sms lingo, u no wot I mean, it's gr8 lol
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:00 am

I think some people do, do ti to take Christ out of Christmas.
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:59 am

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 4):
The Greek name for Christ is Xristos, therefore early Christians used the X as a kind of shorthand notation for the word Christ. Later Christians, not understanding the Greek word, thought it was out of disrespect.



-Mir
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:05 am

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
Are you frightened? Do you want to completely erase the origin of this day?

I sometimes write Xmas (to save time) and I am not afraid of my religion. I think that's a pretty harsh comment.
 
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:51 pm

Quoting Fly_yhm (Reply 9):
I think some people do, do ti to take Christ out of Christmas.

Uh huh. And do some people also write "JFK," "FDR," "LBJ," and "RFK" to dishonor those men? I'll say it again - it's a shorthand artifact of a different language which has carried over into our own, as much as using "e.g.," "n.b.," "etc." are.
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:09 pm

From what I understand, the letter 'X' signifies a cross. Since, according to whatever I have understood of christianity, Christ was crucified on a cross. Then hence somehow over the past few decades, people equate "Xmas" with "Christmas". Plus it is probably quicker to write.

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
Are you frightened? Do you want to completely erase the origin of this day?
I think it's quite depressing seeing clever people trying to cancel the word Christ, and sincerely I don't think it's so intelligent.

Question: how many decisions have you made for us? You ask in the thread topic as if you are talking to someone and they, without asking "what do you write and why do you do it" go ahead and assume that the particular someone you are thinking of is frightened? On top of which, you went ahead and decided to assume that the person is doing it for what you think they are doing it for. Nice. Don't ask them anything, chances are, you already know. irked 

I get the impression you have a problem with the shortened version of word 'Christmas'. If that is the case, why make it your problem?
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:11 pm

How come as a kid I remember on Nickelodeon all the shows were big on Hanukah but every time there was a reference to Christmas it was always "Xmas?" All the boxes, cards, presents, everything labelled Xmas?
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:42 pm

I sometimes use "Xmas" instead of "Christmas" because I'm lazy. Five less letters to type!
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:53 am

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
Do you want to completely erase the origin of this day?

If I were to play devils advocate here I would say that the origins you refer to are not biblical and are in fact origins of a latter day king/emperor who created a few misconceptions about this particular day amongst other things.

Take a look at any worthy encyclopedia and you'll find that Christmas and Trinity were invented or created at The First Council of Nicaea, which took place during the reign of the Emperor Constantine in 325 AD

But I guess the origin that you are referring to is the one mentioned above right..?  Wink

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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:35 pm

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 15):
I sometimes use "Xmas" instead of "Christmas" because I'm lazy. Five less letters to type!

ditto . I am just lazy , as an atheist the name in full doesn't bother me but it is quicker to use five fewer letters , I also usually write the days of the week as Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su but that doesn't mean that I am bothered by the references to the gods tyr, woden , thor , freya or saturn , or the references to moon and sun worship , they are just as irrelevant to me as christ .... I think sometimes people try to read too much into other peoples actions .
 
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:12 pm

It svs so mch tme whn ur wrting.
 
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:00 am

It's shortened so we don't have to spend the extra second writing a few letters more. Plus i guess a few kids these days can't even spell Christmas due to everything being shorthand.........it's the society we live in today.

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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:05 am

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 7):
Think about the "Jesus fish" that are oh-so popular. They don't spell IXOYE on them, but rather Ichthus, spelled Iota-Chi-Theta-Upsilon-Sigma.

I'm not up on my Greek. Could anyone explain this bit to the ignorant (i.e. me) please?
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:38 am

What a stupid topic... it's not like we pronounce it 'ex-mas' or anything, and if someone does, they're a retard anyway.
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:58 am

Like X-tina is Christina Aguellllerraaaahhh ( cant spell the name )

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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:06 am

This is from a pretty good article about the x in Xmas, I recommend checking out the whole thing.

"Abbreviations used as Christian symbols have a long history in the church. The letters of the word "Christ" in Greek, the language in which the New Testament was written, or various titles for Jesus early became symbols of Christ and Christianity. For example, the first two letters of the word Christ (cristoV, or as it would be written in older manuscripts, CRISTOS) are the Greek letters chi (c or C) and rho (r or R). These letters were used in the early church to create the chi-rho monogram (see Chrismons), a symbol that by the fourth century became part of the official standard of the emperor Constantine. " http://www.cresourcei.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html

Abbreviations such as that were especially useful for two reasons: 1. Everything was copied by hand so the shorter you could make it the better, even when they first started using movable type it was an extremely laborious process and 2. Lots of people couldn't read so simple symbols were more practical than lots of letters.
 
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:47 am

Writing 'Xmas' in place of 'Christmas' saves 5 characters. Let's say you write the word 'Christmas' on average 20 times a day, during the month of December. That's 3100 characters saved in one year. Over the course of a writing lifetime (age 5 - 95, say) that's 279000 characters.

From http://www.pencils.com/index.html , it can be seen that an average pencil can write 45000 words. If the average number of characters per word (over the course of a lifetime) is 6, then writing Xmas saves you just over one entire pencil per lifetime!
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RE: Why Do You Write Xmas Instead Of Christmas?

Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:00 am

I write xmas, because I'm lazy plus it saves time, ink, a few key strokes that could be put to better use.  laughing 

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