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AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:08 pm

Well it's stumps on day 2, and it's certainly been an interesting match so far. Hussey went on to make a century with a solid partner in Glenn McGrath!  Smile They made a century partnership on the way, too! Which I'm sure McGrath will be proud to add to his list of batting achievements (still doesn't beat the 61, though).

What was interesting was that both Hussey and Ponting were dropped on lowly scores - Ponting went on to make 100 more, and Hussey went on to make 95 more, so had there been safer hands in the field, the Proteas could have been chasing a measley 160 - a score which they achieved this afternoon.
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:23 pm

Great batting by Hayden and Symmons today. They made it look so easy. Sporting declaration by Ponting. RoSA has to chase this one down after what Smith said after Perth (something to the effect of if they had set 400 we would have had a go). However they are currently 5 down for 70 something with a day to go so things are not looking too good.
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:29 pm

I'm sitting here cringing watching this match, they just lost Boucher so 82/6, this is disastrous!
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:49 pm

I really thought they might give this a shake after historically saving an MCG match a couple of Tours ago after batting a day and a half (thanks to Kallis and Cronje) and also after their effort in Perth.

It's interesting to look at their averages which are quite good and hinted they they may be able to overhaul the total until you look at their averages against Australia which are just about all significantly lower.

Still those runs scored by Ponting and Hussey in the First Innings after being dropped are looming quite large.

What a character Nel is by the way. Bowls well, says his piece/back chats, later on gets belted all over the park, still says his piece/back chats, laughs like a goose when he finally catches Symmons (whose favourite shot was the straight six off Nel). And in amongst it all the crowd is yelling "Nellie's a Wanker!". Seems like he is trying to take Hadlee's crown.
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:04 pm

Andre Nel looks like a heart attack waiting to happen sometimes lol he gets so worked up. 99/6 at close so we survived the day!
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:26 pm

Quoting Andz (Reply 4):
99/6 at close so we survived the day!

Wasn't exactly the most convicing batting display I've ever seen from you chaps today, so does anybody see any possibility of a lower-order fightback tomorrow? I'm wondering if Symonds will be able to maintain his sudden form-reversal, although surely if he manages to merely refrain from embarrassing himself tomorrow, we'll be seeing him in Sydney.

By the way, there will be free admission to the match tomorrow!  Smile
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:40 pm

I saw that free admission offer on the big screen, I guess the organisers were guessing that there might not be a fifth day or that it will be very short!

Our batting has been woeful, and after Pollock there isn't really any batting to speak of so I don't hold much hope! Where is Lance Klusener when you need him? I saw him score 42 off 24 balls in a domestic limited overs game a couple of days ago, he's a good man in a squeeze!
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:58 am

Well it's all over and the Aussies are now 1 up in the series. Must say it was a fine performance by Pollock, I think he is carrying the team on his shoulders!

What chance do RSA have of leveling the series with the Sydney Test approaching? Sydney will be far more kind to Warne and Macgill than to the pacers and although I wouldn't call the South Africans' as Warne's "bunnies" Sydney will always turn from day one.

Will Andy Simons get another test after his better performance in the latter half?
 
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:37 pm

With the 9 hour time difference I missed it all, probably a good thing! I heard on the radio that SA have called another spinner to join the team so they obviously know about the turn at the SCG.
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:10 pm

Quoting Ozair (Reply 7):
Must say it was a fine performance by Pollock

Second that. Bit more support and he might have done a Hussey.

Quoting Ozair (Reply 7):
What chance do RSA have of leveling the series with the Sydney Test approaching?

None unless they can get Fannie de Villiers (or however you spell it) out of retirement and up to Test level again to skittle Border's Australians like he did a few years ago.

Quoting Ozair (Reply 7):
Will Andy Simons get another test after his better performance in the latter half?

Will the Sun rise tomorrow?
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:58 pm

Quoting TSV (Reply 9):
None unless they can get Fannie de Villiers (or however you spell it) out of retirement and up to Test level again to skittle Border's Australians like he did a few years ago.

If we need to rely on vinnige Fanie then we are in more trouble than I thought! I'm not surprised at the bravado though, I do remember something similar from certain Australian players before a recent series in the mother country... don't write us off yet!
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:03 pm

Quoting TSV (Reply 9):
Second that. Bit more support and he might have done a Hussey.

True, but as I commented in the other thread, the one hope of support for him came in the shape of Ashwell Prince, and he got chopped off by a shocker of a decision.

Goes that way sometimes.

The biggest problem South Africa have had is dropping catches. Hasn't it cost them something like 800 runs in the series so far?
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:08 pm

Quoting Andz (Reply 10):
I'm not surprised at the bravado though

It's not bravado - just a joke. Sorry I forgot you are South African and appreciate Australian humour about as much as a dead rat. I think we are all very mindful of the closeness in scores and the likely change in result if certain catches were able to be held on to.
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:13 pm

Tsv, what do you think of the revamped Australian team now?

They do appear to have lost that air of invincibility in the wake of the Ashes defeat, don't they? You don't watch them thinking that they'll win eventually, you wonder if they'll come out on top now, rather than expect it.
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:28 pm

Quoting TSV (Reply 12):
Sorry I forgot you are South African and appreciate Australian humour about as much as a dead rat.

I have to remember to put smilies in my posts so that subtle reactions aren't lost on people. And for the record I'm not South African, I do have a sense of humour, and I don't take Australians seriously.  Smile  Smile  Smile
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:30 pm

Quoting Andz (Reply 14):
and I don't take Australians seriously

Who does?  Wink
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:32 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 13):
Tsv, what do you think of the revamped Australian team now?

It's funny you ask that as I was just looking at the line-up while watching the other day and thinking to myself "this is almost a totally different team".

The other thing that crossed my mind was that most of the ones making their "Debuts" or "Re-Debuts" are all 30 odd years old! For example Brad Hodge, Mike Hussey, and Andy "Roy" Symmons.

Quoting Banco (Reply 13):
They do appear to have lost that air of invincibility in the wake of the Ashes defeat, don't they?

Agreed. There is a certain fragility there that was usually only exposed once in a series and that was usually only in a "dead" Test.

Quoting Banco (Reply 13):
You don't watch them thinking that they'll win eventually, you wonder if they'll come out on top now, rather than expect it.

Very true. Even today I was thinking if RoSA had held onto their catches or they had a few more wickets left this would be going the other way.

I don't want to jump on the knock Ricky Ponting bandwagon but I think he got a lot of credit for this win that he probably didn't deserve and generally he is nowhere near the Captain the three before him was (at least not yet).
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:37 pm

Quoting TSV (Reply 16):
The other thing that crossed my mind was that most of the ones making their "Debuts" or "Re-Debuts" are all 30 odd years old! For example Brad Hodge, Mike Hussey, and Andy "Roy" Symmons.

I'm not (and never have been) convinced about Symonds ability at Test level, in spite of his recent relative success.

Brad Hodge I didn't know much about (and good luck to him for seizing his chance) but Hussey's Test elevation was long overdue. Many of us in England found it hard to believe he hadn't broken into the side years ago. He's a class act.

I'm still of the opinion that bowlers win matches. Take Warne and McGrath away and Australia will struggle somewhat, particularly as there doesn't seem to be too much depth in this area.
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:17 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 17):
Take Warne and McGrath away and Australia will struggle somewhat, particularly as there doesn't seem to be too much depth in this area.

That's for sure. MacGill despite what he tells us is no where near Warne's class (on the field that is) and Lee is way too inconsistent (although he did show glimpses of consistency on day 3. As for what's on the horizon in this department I must admit I haven't looked in detail at State level but to be honest no one has sprung out of the woodwork.

Quoting Banco (Reply 17):
I'm not (and never have been) convinced about Symonds ability at Test level, in spite of his recent relative success.

I don't think many are but certainly many more are hoping.

Quoting Banco (Reply 17):
Brad Hodge I didn't know much about (and good luck to him for seizing his chance)

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/5674.html

Quoting Banco (Reply 17):
but Hussey's Test elevation was long overdue. Many of us in England found it hard to believe he hadn't broken into the side years ago. He's a class act.

No argument at all there. Ian Chappell reckons it took so long because he moved up and down the order a bit so they didn't know what he was - opener or middle order batsman.
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:30 pm

Quoting TSV (Reply 18):
That's for sure. MacGill despite what he tells us is no where near Warne's class

Well, who is? Put it this way, if MacGill was English he'd have been a fixture in the side for a decade or more and we'd be raving about him. He's just desperately unlucky to be a contemporary of the great man.

Quoting TSV (Reply 18):
Lee is way too inconsistent (although he did show glimpses of consistency on day 3

Yes, I thought that too. Maybe he's maturing as a bowler at last.


I tell you what's interesting about Brad Hodge's record on Cricinfo: His conversion rate of 50's to 100's in first class cricket. That's usually the sign of someone who might well do well in Test cricket.
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Sat Dec 31, 2005 5:45 pm

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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:42 am

Quoting TSV (Reply 20):
More controversy :

Sounds innocent enough to me - if a little unfortunate.

Give him the benefit of the doubt.
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:47 am

I didn't notice - that was my 1000th post and I spent it on Warney.

1000 posts in just over 6 years - pretty unimpressive compared with most on here. I must have a life.
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:16 am

Quoting Ozair (Reply 7):
Will Andy Simons get another test after his better performance in the latter half?

I actually hope so. I am still not convinced with Symonds' ability at test match level , he's an out and out one-day player. He reminds me of our own Lance Klusener who wasn't the most sucessful at test level.

Quoting Andz (Reply 8):
With the 9 hour time difference I missed it all, probably a good thing! I heard on the radio that SA have called another spinner to join the team so they obviously know about the turn at the SCG.

Yes , South Africa have called upon Johan Botha to play at the SCG. He's the off-spinner who went to India for the ODI's and he didn't perform to well. Although , anyone is better than Boje...  Wink

Oh and who the hell was this Phil Jaques guy? One of the weirdest batting techniques I've seen in a while. His stance is very weird...

Quoting Banco (Reply 15):
Quoting Andz (Reply 14):
and I don't take Australians seriously

Who does?

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I wonder if South Africa will play Garnett Kruger at the SCG? You Aussies might have seen him come on for Ntini as 12th man on the 4th day. I certainly hope Ntini is fit for the SCG , you can see how we struggled without him on the 4th day.

Concerning the article...I can't wait for the Aussies to come out here in Feb/March. They're going to get such a pummeling from the SA fans , it'll be very fun to watch. Now all we have to do is make up a chant for ol' Warnie...

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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:25 am

Quoting SA006 (Reply 23):
He reminds me of our own Lance Klusener who wasn't the most sucessful at test level.

I wouldn't think Symonds would be that upset by the comparison. You might not think Klusener was that successful, but he scared the shit out of bowling attacks the world over for quite a few years.

Quoting SA006 (Reply 23):
Have a happy new year and a great 2006!

And to you!
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:42 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 24):
You might not think Klusener was that successful, but he scared the shit out of bowling attacks the world over for quite a few years.

I think Klusener was highly sucessful in the ODI arena and scared the shit out of all the bowling attacks in that form of the game. But at test match level he was an easy picking for the good bowlers , especially spinners. I feel that Klusener deserves a spot in the team against Oz when they come here. He's had a good domestic season and just hearing that name will freak McGrath and Lee out  Smile . He and Kemp would be a formidable force in SA's lineup (for ODI's)

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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:52 pm

Zak what the hell are you doing online at that time of the morning???

Quoting SA006 (Reply 23):
Now all we have to do is make up a chant for ol' Warnie...

I was at a day/night match at the Wanderers a few years ago, still the biggest ever crowd there, and I was sitting on the grassed area in front of the teams' dressing rooms. A couple of kids down at the front had a big banner with a sheep holding a telephone and the words "Shane your wife's on the phone"  Smile

Quoting SA006 (Reply 25):
I feel that Klusener deserves a spot in the team against Oz when they come here.

Yeah he was on form last weekend, he made 42 off 24 balls!
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RE: AUS V RSA: The Boxing Day Test

Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:42 pm

Quoting Andz (Reply 26):
Zak what the hell are you doing online at that time of the morning???

New Years , couldn't sleep you know...  Wink

Quoting Andz (Reply 26):
A couple of kids down at the front had a big banner with a sheep holding a telephone and the words "Shane your wife's on the phone"

Thats brilliant Big grin

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