airworlda320
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Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:55 am

Hey Guys and Girls got my first (NOTICE OF INTENDED PROSECUTION) from West Yorkshire Police today.

As reads:

In accordance with section 1 Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 (as amended by section 22) and schedule 1 Road Traffic Act 1991, I give you notice that it is intended to take proceedings against the DRIVER of the vehicle below for the alleged offence of Excess Speed (30MPH)

at: 13:44 hrs on: 22/12/2005

at location: A645 PONTEFRACT ROAD, STATION LANE TO HOUNDHILL LANE FEATHERSTONE

in motor vehicle: LY** ***(for my privacy!!!)

with a recorded speed of: 34 MPH

contrary to Section: RTA 1984 81(1) & 89(1) & 1988 schedule 2

THIS ALLEGATION IS SUPPORTED BY PHOTOGRAPHIC AND/OR VIDEO EVIDENCE..........etc, etc.

I know it was excess speed (which I don't condone) but come on 34mph in a 30mph zone (not as though I was doing 50-60 or more as some boy racers quite often do in that area), I was caught by a mobile speed camera van which was hidden on the top of a hill and behind a signpost, 4 mph is the width of the needle on my speedometer!, after an increase in West Yorkshire of car crime, theft from motor vehicles, etc should not the police be targeting other areas instead of ruthlessly pursuing motorists who go slightly over the speed limit (proberbly sour grapes I know), so to the Police Christmas Party Fund for 2006 here is my £60 contribution! (oh and not to forget my 3 points on my driving licence, only another 9 to go)
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:57 am

Don't they give you the option of attended some stupid road safety course for a day instead of having 3 points put on your licence? My mum got done for exactly the same thing as you and she had the choice of doing that.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:59 am

Quoting Demoose (Reply 1):
Don't they give you the option of attended some stupid road safety course for a day instead of having 3 points put on your licence? My mum got done for exactly the same thing as you and she had the choice of doing that.

Not here in West Yorkshire!!!! Wish I had the option though
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:04 am

shudda reported the car stolen!
 
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:13 am

Stupid speed cameras.
All it is is a money making ploy.
Make them provide the photo evidence, and then look it over. At 34 MPH I am sure you can argue the calibration or that they got another car going that fast. In the US most of the politicians are taking serious heat for allowing them . They take away due process, and violate the spirit of the speed laws.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:16 am

Quoting Demoose (Reply 1):
Don't they give you the option of attended some stupid road safety course for a day instead of having 3 points put on your licence? My mum got done for exactly the same thing as you and she had the choice of doing that.

Well, to be honest, if the road safety course is regarded as "stupid", then you may as well impose the fine and the points.

The whole point of the alternative was to try to discourage people from speeding in the future. If it doesn't, then it's failed.

And herein lies the question. Will the fine and the points stop you from doing it again? Is it more or less effective than, say, being pulled over by the police and being given a serious bollocking?

One of the most successful schemes recently introduced are the roadside cameras that flash up a "Slow Down" message or display your speed. They work, and they work well.

One thing the police have been concerned about is that speeding offences are the only times that otherwise law-abiding people are likely to come in contact with them. The issue of a large section of the population feeling, rightly or wrongly, victimised is damaging to relations, particularly in a country where policing by consent forms such a critical element.

I can't say I condone even going at 34mph in a built-up area. but I do feel that whacking someone with a £60 fine and 3 points surely can't be the best method of slowing you down in future.

Or will it? See, the point is how will it affect your future behaviour? Will you from now on stick to the speed limit in a 30 zone?
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:51 am

I thought most cameras triggered at 35mph - 10% of the actual limit, plus 2mph. Perhaps the 'Safety' (bollocks) partership have different trip speeds. In my experience they are always hidden at the bottom of hills or on long, straight roads where the temptation is greater.

Your speedo can legally over read by 10%, so I wouldn't worry if you creep over 30 occasionally.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:52 am

It is arranged in many constitutions around the world: All criminals are punished once for a crime! Traffic criminals are punished multiple times; money, points, higher insurance rates, possible jail-time, etc.. No, it is just a milkcow controlled by technology. And you think you live in a democracy? More like a police state! I can't wait to have some car-friendly political party run the EU. Many years of 'green' parties and other saloon socialists have obvious not brought anything good for car owners.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:55 am

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 6):
thought most cameras triggered at 35mph - 10% of the actual limit, plus 2mph

i thought it was just 10% not plus 2mph?!?!
half of em dont work any way!
 
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:57 am

Quoting AirworldA320 (Thread starter):
with a recorded speed of: 34 MPH

Thats harsh, im pretty sure, they allow 10% over the limit i.e 33mph doing you for 1mph does seem pretty cruel to me.....hope you get the option to take the alternate 1 day course

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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 2:06 am

Get in touch with a solicitor and ask him to request the calibration certificate.

All equipment such as radar guns must have been calibrated in the 12 hours preceding you being caught, and the officer operating it must have been on an approved course of instruction on it's use in order for the evidence to be admissable.

If it wasn't calibrated they can't prosecute you for it.

One of the little known facts I've picked up after dodging the law for many years ......  Smile
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 2:06 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 5):
And herein lies the question. Will the fine and the points stop you from doing it again? Is it more or less effective than, say, being pulled over by the police and being given a serious bollocking?

Oh and it has done, I keep looking at my speedo every couple of seconds or so!!!!!!!!
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:02 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 5):
One of the most successful schemes recently introduced are the roadside cameras that flash up a "Slow Down" message or display your speed. They work, and they work well.

You mean like this:

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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:15 am

Quoting Demoose (Reply 1):
Don't they give you the option of attended some stupid road safety course for a day instead of having 3 points put on your licence?

I've been on that course here. I was caught doing 34mph in a 30mph zone. I decided to do the course rather than get the points. It costs about £90 for the day but you do get a buffet lunch with chips!
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 4:49 am

Quoting AirworldA320 (Thread starter):
Hey Guys and Girls got my first (NOTICE OF INTENDED PROSECUTION) from West Yorkshire Police today.

I got one a few weeks back, 38 in a 30 zone.

Arse to it.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:01 am

Only one thing now fella's, is that I am finding myself concentrating more on the speedometer rather than the road, surely that cannot be a good thing.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:03 am

Quoting AirworldA320 (Reply 15):
I am finding myself concentrating more on the speedometer rather than the road

Then you are not a good driver.  Wink
 
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:04 am

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 16):
Quoting AirworldA320 (Reply 15):
I am finding myself concentrating more on the speedometer rather than the road

Then you are not a good driver.

Never have been anyway 9VSPO Big grin
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:11 am

Good driving is all about anticipating the road ahead. This is why there are so many accidents because people don't anticipate the road. They are too busy on mobile phones and picking their noses. On the driving course they teach you to look at what's going on on the road way out in front so that you have time to react.
 
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:01 am

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 9):
Thats harsh, im pretty sure, they allow 10% over the limit i.e 33mph doing you for 1mph does seem pretty cruel to me.....hope you get the option to take the alternate 1 day course

A friend of mine is a traffic cop (I have told him once or twice what I think of his lot!) and he tells me depending on the Officer, they will allow up to 10% + 3 or 4 mph.

EG - in a 30 zone, you could feasibly get away with 37 mph, 48 in a 40, 59 in a 50 etc. Apparently too, if you stick below 80 on most M-ways, you'd be pretty unlucky to get a ticket.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:06 am

Quoting Cxsjr (Reply 19):
Apparently too, if you stick below 80 on most M-ways, you'd be pretty unlucky to get a ticket.

From what I've been told from the traffic police that I teach the advanced handling course too, in the UK it is official policy not to prosecute anyone travelling below 85 Mph on a motorway providing that rest of the traffic is moving at a similar speed.

Dunno if that was just a bit of briefing room bollocks though .....  Smile
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:25 am

That is stupid, only 4 mph over. Two ways to go. First I would try and see if there is a driver improvement class or something that will keep it off your record.
Or, try and fight it and say your speedo was slightly off.

That cop must have needed his quota to pull you over for 4mph.

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RE: Speeding Fine �60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:21 pm

You have to remember it is all about MAKING MONEY. Cameras, congestion charging, road tolls, private motorways etc are all designed to create revenue, not better or help the needs of people in a given locality.

I am very much in favour of the signs that show your speed and then a happy or sad face according to whether you are going too fast or not. These work and make people think without making them angry or feeling as though they have been deliberately victimised.

Proof of the desire for MONEY NOT SAFETY is that when London Boroughs want to install these devices, Transport For London overules using their right to 'TRN routes' (i.e. important roads) and block such action. They then rapidly install spped camers at the very points where local councils wanted the speed display devices!!! This has occurred repeatedly, the most reported instance being that of The London Borough of Bromley Vs. TfL. Guess who won?
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:21 pm

Quoting Dc10s4ever (Reply 21):
That cop must have needed his quota to pull you over for 4mph.

First - you didn't read the thread opener or your comprehension skills suck as it plainly states . . . .

Quoting AirworldA320 (Thread starter):
I was caught by a mobile speed camera van which was hidden on the top of a hill and behind a signpost,

That said: Quota my ass.  redflag 

Quoting Dc10s4ever (Reply 21):
Or, try and fight it and say your speedo was slightly off.

Irrelevent and expensive. The ticket's gonna cost 60pounds. Retaining an attorney and then trying to prove your speedometer is off, or the camera isn't calibrated, blah blah blah, is going to cost much more than that.

Likely, none of the above would be true - your speedo is probably accurate as is the camera. Now, you're out the attorney fees, court costs, testing fees for your speedo and the camera, and still have the 60pound fine and 3 points.

Pay it and be on your way . . .

Looking into the class might be worth it if your driving records sucks so badly the three points will hurt - or if it will drive up your insurance rates.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:07 pm

Sixty quid for being 4 mph over the limit? We just had ours raised to around a hundred bucks....that can buy a lotta pizza.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:52 pm

Sorry to hear about that Daz, they should be out catching REAL criminals, not persecuting the likes of you.

Quoting AirworldA320 (Reply 15):
Only one thing now fella's, is that I am finding myself concentrating more on the speedometer rather than the road, surely that cannot be a good thing.

This is so true - how can it be safe to have one eye on the speedo most of the time? A couple of years ago in High Lane, Cheshire, on my route to work, a woman was knocked down and killed next to a speed camera. The driver claimed he was watching the speed, not the road, and got away with it. It was in the national press.

Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 20):
From what I've been told from the traffic police that I teach the advanced handling course too, in the UK it is official policy not to prosecute anyone travelling below 85 Mph on a motorway providing that rest of the traffic is moving at a similar speed.

It would be dangerous to try and stick to 70 on the motorway, it is necessary to speed a bit to overtake safely without disrupting the traffic flow. The only thing that gets me nervous whilst driving is seeing brakelights in front of me on the motorway.
 
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:59 pm

Quoting Propulsion (Reply 22):
You have to remember it is all about MAKING MONEY. Cameras, congestion charging, road tolls, private motorways etc are all designed to create revenue, not better or help the needs of people in a given locality.

Yep - also proved by the fact that a motorist has been prosecuted for alerting other motorists to the location of a mobile camera, when surely he is doing the police a favour by warning them to watch their speeds as this is an accident blackspot?

Yup, all about money!
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:34 am

Quoting RODOL (Reply 25):
Sorry to hear about that Daz, they should be out catching REAL criminals, not persecuting the likes of you.

37215 people were killed or seriously injured on Britain's roads in 2003. The four every single hour of every single day.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:40 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 27):
37215 people were killed or seriously injured on Britain's roads in 2003. The four every single hour of every single day

It's about time people learned to cross the road properly then
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:18 pm

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 28):
It's about time people learned to cross the road properly then

 bigthumbsup  Brilliant!

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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:09 pm

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 28):
It's about time people learned to cross the road properly then

In addition to that it's also about time people stick to the legal limits and stop making excuses for speeding. If the law says you do 30 mph, then you do 30, not 34 or 38.

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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:42 pm

Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 30):

In addition to that it's also about time people stick to the legal limits and stop making excuses for speeding. If the law says you do 30 mph, then you do 30, not 34 or 38.

Here Here...!

Its a well known fact, if you cant do the time, dont do the crime...! You broke the law, now you must pay the piper...! As much as people b*tch and moan about speed cameras, they shouldn't cause you ANY trouble at all if you STICK TO THE SPEED LIMIT!  Wink
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:42 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 27):
37215 people were killed or seriously injured on Britain's roads in 2003. The four every single hour of every single day.

i wonder how that compares to people killed through smoking?
 
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RE: Speeding Fine �60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:44 am

Quoting Matt72033 (Reply 32):
i wonder how that compares to people killed through smoking?

Does it matter? The fact is that thousands of people die on Britain's road because people speed.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:57 am

so are these speeders as bad as smokers in your mind?
smoking kills 114,000 every year in the uk!
so whose more of a burden to the NHS? smokers, or people who cant cross the street properly?

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 33):
The fact is that thousands of people die on Britain's road because people speed

anyway nowhere in that stat you gave, did it say due to speeding!
 
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:15 am

Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 30):
If the law says you do 30 mph, then you do 30, not 34 or 38.

What are you? A copper?
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RE: Speeding Fine �60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:21 am

Quoting Matt72033 (Reply 34):
anyway nowhere in that stat you gave, did it say due to speeding!

Well, let's assume that only 10% (!) of all road traffic deaths and injuries in the UK are caused by excessive speed.

Is 3700 people few enough to justify speeding?
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:50 am

Quoting AirworldA320 (Thread starter):
Hey Guys and Girls got my first (NOTICE OF INTENDED PROSECUTION) from West Yorkshire Police today.

Make sure that you obtain the photographic evidence and frame it, then you can be truly proud of your achievement.

 Yeah sure

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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:23 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 36):
Is 3700 people few enough to justify speeding?

ive not killed anyone speeding yet so im not gonna stop!
 
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RE: Speeding Fine �60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:49 am

Quoting Matt72033 (Reply 38):

ive not killed anyone speeding yet so im not gonna stop!

What nonsense. That's like saying 'smoking hasn't killed me yet, so is harmless.'

You help to maintain aircraft? Jesus.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:55 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 39):
You help to maintain aircraft? Jesus.

i really dont see how my comment has anything to do with my ability to maintain aircraft! please enlighten me!
 
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:58 am

Matt,
Leave him in his own sad little world
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RE: Speeding Fine �60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:03 am

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 41):
Matt,
Leave him in his own sad little world

Sorry, what? Do you really agree with someone saying,

Quoting Matt72033 (Reply 38):
ive not killed anyone speeding yet so im not gonna stop!

?
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:04 am

i think your right Phil!
lol he doesnt speed, he doesnt smoke! does he drink? i bet not! and he called you boring for being in management?!?!
 
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:06 am

Quoting Matt72033 (Reply 43):
i think your right Phil!
lol he doesnt speed, he doesnt smoke! does he drink? i bet not! and he called you boring for being in management?!?!

He uses capital letters and understands basic grammar, too.

soz woz that too difficult to understand lol!!! i rely like driving fast vrrrrrroooom an smoking about 20 fagss at the same teim!!!!??! filthy pigs, its just a mooney makin scam!!

[Edited 2006-01-01 20:07:26]
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:17 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 44):
soz woz that too difficult to understand lol!!! i rely like driving fast vrrrrrroooom an smoking about 20 fagss at the same teim!!!!??! filthy pigs, its just a mooney makin scam!!

a little better i spose!
 
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:20 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 44):
vrrrrrroooom an smoking about 20 fagss at the same teim!!!!??!

Don't forget the 6 cans of Tenants Super
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:25 am

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 35):
What are you? A copper?

I wish i was so i could nick people like you breaking the law and then seeing you whine about it. But i'm not a copper, i'm a law-abiding motorist who sticks to the legal speed limit and not make excuses about it.  Silly
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Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:27 am

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 46):
Don't forget the 6 cans of Tenants Super

Tenants Super? Too classy. Special Brew all the way.
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RE: Speeding Fine £60 Plus 3 Points

Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:38 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 48):
Special Brew all the way.

i wont have a bad word said about special brew!.....many an evening spent on the park bench with a can od special brew!

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