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NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:04 am

Sherman has been fired by GreenBay...wonder what Favre will do?

Martz has been fired by St Louis.

Hasslet has been fired by New Orleans.

As stated in other threads...

Capers fired by Houston.

Tice fired by Minnesota.

Vermell has retired as KC coach.

Rumor has is Reeves is in the pool for Houston job.

N. Edwards might leave NY Jets and come to KC.

Hasslet is a leading candidate for NY Jets job if that happens.

Thoughts, any more predictions?

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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:20 am

Lets not feel to sorry for these guys most of them will land on their feet someplace else, as the coaches merry go round will continue. The only one that really surprised me was Hasslet with everything the Saints had to go through this year and a lack of a decent front office.
 
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:21 am

How 'bout Bob Stoops coming to the Cowboys to replace a retiring Parcells?
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:21 am

Almost forgot, remember Detroit is also looking for a new coach, and they should also be looking for a new GM.
 
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:37 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
How 'bout Bob Stoops coming to the Cowboys to replace a retiring Parcells?

That would be kick ass!  

I would love to see T. Owens in the #1 WR slot, with Terry Glenn and Keyshawn. You think Stoops could handle all these guys?

I thought that was pretty shitty to fire Tice...a guy that played, assisted, and coached a team for 13+ yrs. His team is to blame, but I know the responsibilty falls on the coach.

It would be easier to swallow if the damn owners name wasn't Ziggy.  Sad

[Edited 2006-01-02 22:39:28]
 
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:45 am

How about Mike Riley leaves Oregon State again for the NFL, and please all the boosters??? Please, Mike? PLEASE??? PLEASE leave Oregon State!!!!!
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:17 pm

Quoting FXramper (Reply 4):
Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
How 'bout Bob Stoops coming to the Cowboys to replace a retiring Parcells?

That would be kick ass!

I would love to see T. Owens in the #1 WR slot, with Terry Glenn and Keyshawn. You think Stoops could handle all these guys?

Only Parcells would be able to keep all those head-cases glued together....

I think Parcells will be back next season...
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:24 pm

I'm really surprised about Sherman. It's surprising because a couple of months ago Favre said he wouldn't stick around if there was a coaching change. Favre leaving the Packers could very well start a revolution that will send Wisconsin into anarchy.
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:04 pm

Quoting Checkraiser (Reply 7):
Favre said he wouldn't stick around if there was a coaching change

so Sherman is gone, where do you see Favre next season? Raiders? Moss? Oh hell yeah!!! Baltimore? Where?
 
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:09 pm

Personally I think Favre will be back. Ted Thompson called his bluff and Favre will sit on the fence as long as he can to remind Packers management that he still has some weight to throw around.

I really don't think Favre will play anywhere but Green Bay - but I'd love to see him in Dallas.
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:05 pm

It was a bad year for coaches in the NFL. Some were victims of bad Management decisions, others due to a bad run of injuries. Of course, it is easier to fire one coach rather than 'fire' a bunch of overpaid and weak players. In some cases (Tice for example) the teams need new tough displinarian bosses to keep the players on track not only on the field, but also off it. I would suggest that Coughlan of the NY Giants will probably be the model Minnesota and many other teams will follow.
One important factor that all teams that need to replace coaches will have to be careful with is the NFL mandate that requires teams to seriously consider Black men for the job openings. They just cannot use the 'old white coach' merry-go-round system anymore. Nor can they just do 'token' interviews with 1-2 black men just to cover then hire a rerun white man as coach. Fortuntally, there are a number of assistant coaches in the NFL that are qualified and should be seriouly considered. Look at Chicago for example this past year where an black man whom was a well respected and experienced assistant coach moved up to head coach, kicked butt in the league this year with a top defense and put the Bears in the playoffs for the first time in a number of years.
 
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:28 pm

Hopefully Ralph Wilson will add Coach Mike Malarkey and GM Tom Donohoe top the list as well.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:14 pm

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
Fortuntally, there are a number of assistant coaches in the NFL that are qualified and should be seriouly considered. Look at Chicago for example this past year where an black man whom was a well respected and experienced assistant coach moved up to head coach, kicked butt in the league this year with a top defense and put the Bears in the playoffs for the first time in a number of years.

Add Cincinnati, Indy, Jets (not this year) teams that have been successful with black coaches in the past couple of years building on the success of the Minnesota, and Oakland in the past. I can't believe that Dennis Green will be successful in Arizona, since that nothing more than a graveyard for coaches.
 
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:39 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
The only one that really surprised me was Hasslet with everything the Saints had to go through this year and a lack of a decent front office.

Haslett had been asking as long as four weeks ago to be let go. GM Mickey Loomis basically accomodated that desire.

That said, Haslett wasn't let go because of this year's 3-13 record, he was basically going to be given a pass on this year. It's more for the failures of the previous three seasons, in one of which all the Saints had to do to make the playoffs was win one of the last three games.....which they couldn't do.

The Saints latest problems basically started a few years years back when GM Jim Finks passed away. The competitive Jim Finks/Jim Mora days are long gone. They haven't been the same since.

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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:43 am

Heard this morning Al Davis is getting ready to fire Norv Turner in Oakland.

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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:51 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 14):
Heard this morning Al Davis is getting ready to fire Norv Turner in Oakland.

Why frown over this? Norv Turner is a good Offensive Coordinator. He sucks as a Head Coach
 
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:09 am

Quoting KROC (Reply 15):
Why frown over this?

Cause I like Al Davis as an owner, and I don't think it's Turner's fault the Raiders struggled so much...LaMont Jordan is no Larry Johnson, and who the hell is their QB?  Smile

I left out Marrucci of Detroit for fired coaches...Matt Millen is a freaking moron for this one...IMHO.
 
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:25 am

Well I'm a packer fan and I didnt expect Sherman to get the boot, now my guesses for head coach of the packers is going for Steve Marrucci or making Jim bates the head coach, maybe then Favre would decide to come back for 1 more year
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:37 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 14):
Heard this morning Al Davis is getting ready to fire Norv Turner in Oakland.

Heard that as well on the radio down here. Also reported that Al Davis gets along well with Jim Haslett, so he might end up there. There are also Buffalo rumors regarding Haslett.

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Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:57 am

Norv Turner would go 4-12 with the Colts. he just doesn't have the stuff to be a head coach. He had the talent for a better than 4-12 season...again.

I hope beyond all hope that Buffalo can land Jim Haslett. He is a solid guy and a hard working coach who's actual dream job is Buffalo. Ralph Wilson should just make it happen.
 
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:24 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 16):
Cause I like Al Davis as an owner, and I don't think it's Turner's fault the Raiders struggled so much...LaMont Jordan is no Larry Johnson, and who the hell is their QB?

YOU like Al Davis as an owner? WTF. I guess if you like a team to suck, more power to you. The coach is not the problem in Oakland, Alice is.

He fires Shanahan, Denver thanks him. Fires Gruden, Tampa thanks him. Who would want to coach there?

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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting Checkraiser (Reply 7):
I'm really surprised about Sherman. It's surprising because a couple of months ago Favre said he wouldn't stick around if there was a coaching change.

That's not what he said at all, and that's something that's been blown way out of proportion. What Favre said, to paraphrase, was that he wasn't hot on learning a new offense or changing the system, which is what a new coach would likely do. Hence, he wouldn't want to go through that and would retire.

Ted Thompson made it clear--much to the anger of some Packers fans I'm sure--that Favre's a bright guy and he can adapt. He's a vet and can modify if needed. Some see that as a deliberate ouster of Favre; I see it as a smart GM who is *finally* putting the interests of the franchise and the entire organization over one man.

Sherman was a disaster as GM and wasn't much better as a coach...his gameday coaching was awful, preparation and game planning inconsistent, seldom made adjustments in-game or at the half as necessary, terrible clock management. The guy essentially rode Ahman Green, a consistent o-line (which he didn't assemble) to victory and Favre was his mealticket....the Packers won 3 division titles in what was the worst division in football, didn't even go to an NFC Title game, lost 2 playoff games at Lambeau, lost the homefield advantage, and was an unmitigated wreck overall.

I'm elated he's gone, and with him should be all his cronies--Tom Rossley, Frank Novak, etc, etc....

GB will be back and rebound. Ted Thompson is doing a very extensive search already.
 
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:43 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 8):
where do you see Favre next season?

With GB. Favre won't like a new coach, but if it's someone respectable (Herman Edwards, Jim Hasslet) He'll be happier.

DON'T RETIRE BRETT! GB NEEDS YOU!!!!!!!!  Smile
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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:24 am

Donahue is gone in Buffalo...Marv Levy has been brought back as a "special assistant."

Seems Herm Edwards is in final negotiations to take over at KC. Hasslet might go to the Jets if this happens.

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RE: NFL Black Monday...Firings And Retirings.

Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:53 am

Quoting KROC (Reply 19):
He is a solid guy and a hard working coach who's actual dream job is Buffalo.


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