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Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:14 am

Over the past few months I have been looking into many of the European languages which fascinate me like Italian, Spanish, German. Which language do you guys find interesting and helpful especially while traveling? I have always been fascinated by the Italian language b/c I find it to be very bold and unique but I have no idea if its easy to learn or comprehend. Anyone got any clues?
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:41 am

Since you're from Canada you probably already have some basic French knowledge.

I would suggest German or Spanish. Germany is the biggest country in Europe and German is also spoken in other European countries, like Switzerland and Austria plus have quite a wide spread in Eastern Europe. Almost the whole of South America speaks Spanish (and very little English I've heard), which makes it a good language to know if you plan to spend a lot of time there.

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Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:31 am

or if you really want to make it hard on yourself learn Dutch, it's the worlds thirds hardest language (because of the millions of exceptions to the rules) behind chinese and swahili.
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:48 am

Quoting JRadier (Reply 2):
it's the worlds thirds hardest language

I've heard that Afrikaans is one of the easiest languages to learn and it once was a dialect of Dutch (to me it sounds exactly the same). I know that it is now a language of it's own and I don't know anything about the grammar, but it's funny that two languages that are that similar can be so different.

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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:48 am

Well being from Miami where Spanish is the primary language spoken I would say Spanish would give you the greatest amount of oppertuinity since ALOT of countries speak spanish and it is even very popular in the US, Florida, California, Texas, New York City Mexican Border. After that I would go with German since it is also a widely spoken language and Germany is the largest country in Europe. My third choice would be Italian.
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:50 am

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 4):
Germany is the largest country in Europe

Not Russia? That's what I would have suspected...
 
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:58 am

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 4):
Well being from Miami where Spanish is the primary language spoken I would say Spanish would give you the greatest amount of oppertuinity since ALOT of countries speak spanish and it is even very popular in the US

I know some and I refuse to use what I know to communicate. They are in the US, they can learn English.

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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:18 am

Quoting SK A340 (Reply 3):
I've heard that Afrikaans is one of the easiest languages to learn and it once was a dialect of Dutch (to me it sounds exactly the same).

Afrikaans in in effect dutch, but it is really difirent. The Dutch language is so hard (at least to other people) because of all the exceptions. I have to find a grammar rule that doesn't have at least one exception
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:39 am

I think FLYMIA is mistaken. Germany is land size is still behind Russia, the largest country in Europe and the world, and also France, which happens to be the most visited country in the world.
 
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:14 am

Germany has the largest population in Europe if you don't count Russia. Russia has geographically territory which can be declared european, but Russia is extremely unlikely to ever be an integral part of Europe culturally and economically as the other countries are.
 
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:50 am

It's not a European language and as far as I know it is understood almost the world over. It would certainly be a challenge to learn but you could cross bridges with it and likely get you involved in some very interesting, challenging and rewarding situations.

The language: Sign Language

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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:55 am

Quoting JRadier (Reply 2):
or if you really want to make it hard on yourself learn Dutch, it's the worlds thirds hardest language (because of the millions of exceptions to the rules) behind chinese and swahili.

Dutch isn't that hard is it? Well... ive been learning since January 2003 but yeah i guess it is since i cant get the grammar correct... but im always willing to find out how i can improve myself with it... now now... if only i was flying KLM to Delhi this August, i'll be happy... well there's Dubai in September or October... Big grin

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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:56 am

I think Spanish would be most useful to you. It is spoken in over 20 countries, and is a pleasure to learn. I am larning it right now, and find I am catching on much faster than French.
 
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:07 pm

Definitely GERMAN !!!!!

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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:28 pm

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 10):
The language: Sign Language

I hear they are giving lessons on that over at Airwhiners.
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:47 pm

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 12):
I think Spanish would be most useful to you. It is spoken in over 20 countries, and is a pleasure to learn. I am larning it right now,

What is thye best way to learn Spanish that doesn't include going to Spain or South America?

I've always wanted to learn it as my grandmother is Spanish. Then I'd ,ove to learn Italian.
 
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:34 pm

Quoting LFutia (Reply 11):
Dutch isn't that hard is it? Well... ive been learning since January 2003 but yeah i guess it is since i cant get the grammar correct... but im always willing to find out how i can improve myself with it... now now... if only i was flying KLM to Delhi this August, i'll be happy... well there's Dubai in September or October... Big grin

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Ik weet het ook niet, heb het maar ergens gelezen. Wel maken buitenlanders regelmatig fouten met woorden, die het gevolg zijn van de uitzonderingen.

(and for everyone else then Leo)
I don't know either, I've read it somewhere. The non-natives (in my dutch text it was imigrants) do make mistake with words regularly, most likely due to the exceptions (and not being able to produce a solid G)
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:05 pm

The most useful European language is English, with Spanish and German close for second place.
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:08 pm

well maybe not european quite........but im learning russian  Smile
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:16 pm

Quoting Emirates773ER (Thread starter):
Over the past few months I have been looking into many of the European languages which fascinate me like Italian, Spanish, German. Which language do you guys find interesting and helpful especially while traveling?

I'd say French. It can be really useful outside Europe too, apart from Canada.

Many North African countries use French as a second language. You also find that as it is a Latin based language it helps with other languages such as Italian and Spanish.
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:31 pm

Quoting JRadier (Reply 16):
(and not being able to produce a solid G)

Wij kunnen dat ook niet haha  Wink

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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:38 pm

I say go for English. Half the world speaks that and it's relatively easy for you to learn (so long as you're north of the border).  Smile
 
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:02 pm

Without a doubt....English, useful anywhere....Maybe Italian after that...it just sounds so amazing and passionate.....
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:43 pm

Quoting LO231 (Reply 20):
Wij kunnen dat ook niet haha Wink

allé zenne gij zijt ook reserven ollanders e  Wink

not sure if the spelling is correct but that is what I remember from my 1,5 years in belgium.
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:04 am

At least Dutch has grammer rules, ex. plural: English: man-men, woman-women. no reagularity, Dutch: man-mannen, vrouw-vrouwen.

So what's more difficult?  Smile
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:30 am

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 17):
The most useful European language is English



Quoting LH477 (Reply 22):
Without a doubt....English, useful anywhere



Quoting Noelg (Reply 21):
I say go for English.

Considering that he has just asked in English what would be the best European language for him to learn, I think we can safely assume that he already speaks English...
 
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:34 am

Quoting Noelg (Reply 21):
I say go for English. Half the world speaks that and it's relatively easy for you to learn (so long as you're north of the border).



Quoting LH477 (Reply 22):
Without a doubt....English, useful anywhere....Maybe Italian after that...it just sounds so amazing and passionate.....



Quoting Racko (Reply 25):
Considering that he has just asked in English what would be the best European language for him to learn, I think we can safely assume that he already speaks English...

After the above replies I thought I may be writting in french or something while starting this thread.

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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:57 am

Quoting Racko (Reply 25):
Considering that he has just asked in English what would be the best European language for him to learn, I think we can safely assume that he already speaks English...

Doesn't mean it's not the most useful European language to learn  Wink
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:18 am

English, it's all you need to know friend.
 
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:21 am

I would recommend german or french.
German however is quite a language to learn !You better be prepared for it. French, excluding the prononcation would be much easier and more useful in Canada, i think.

Quoting JRadier (Reply 2):
t's the worlds thirds hardest language (because of the millions of exceptions to the rules) behind chinese and swahili.

What about arabic? Arabic is a very very hard language the learn (and i am a native speaker, an egyptian). I always thought it was hardest (because of the trillions of exceptions).
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:36 am

Quoting Soylentgreen (Reply 28):
English, it's all you need to know friend.

As long as you don't visit France that is  Wink
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:07 am

Quoting Mohamed (Reply 29):
What about arabic? Arabic is a very very hard language the learn (and i am a native speaker, an egyptian). I always thought it was hardest (because of the trillions of exceptions).

I was born and raised in dubai so I can read and write arabic pretty well, it can be a real tough language to learn though especially for people from the west.

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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:12 am

Quoting JRadier (Reply 16):
Ik weet het ook niet, heb het maar ergens gelezen. Wel maken buitenlanders regelmatig fouten met woorden, die het gevolg zijn van de uitzonderingen.

(and for everyone else then Leo)
I don't know either, I've read it somewhere. The non-natives (in my dutch text it was imigrants) do make mistake with words regularly, most likely due to the exceptions (and not being able to produce a solid G)

solid g? would that be the words with ge in it? I can properly pronounce ge sounding words!!

Quoting Timology (Reply 24):


So what's more difficult?

Wat is meer mogelijk? goeie vraag! ik weet het niet.

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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:36 am

I speak French which is helpful when I'm in... France. AS far as learning a language that will serve you well in Europe as well as in life/business, I'd go for Spanish first and then German (depending on your industry). Au revoir!
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:38 am

Quoting LFutia (Reply 32):
solid g? would that be the words with ge in it? I can properly pronounce ge sounding words!!

Scheveningen (with ch=g)
Geld (money)
Goed (good)
Gratis (free)
Groot (big)

Quoting LFutia (Reply 32):
Wat is meer mogelijk? goeie vraag! ik weet het niet.

difficult=moeilijk, although it 'moeilijker' in this care because it is 'more difficult'. It's nice to see someone talk dutch tho, it isn't exactly a language that a lot of people learn.
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:04 am

Quoting JRadier (Reply 34):
difficult=moeilijk, although it 'moeilijker' in this care because it is 'more difficult'. It's nice to see someone talk dutch tho, it isn't exactly a language that a lot of people learn.

did i really mistake difficult for mogelijk? wow i feel dumb.

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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:38 am

Quoting LFutia (Reply 35):

did i really mistake difficult for mogelijk? wow i feel dumb.

that's nothing compared to the mistakes I sometimes make in english.
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:11 am

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 10):
It's not a European language and as far as I know it is understood almost the world over. (..)

The language: Sign Language

That would be brilliant, were it true. Sign languages do however differ from each other almost as much as the voiced languages.
 
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:21 am

IMHO I'd suggest Spanish. Not only will thyis get you around in Spain but it is also the major language in most of Central and South America.
 
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RE: Best European Language To Learn?

Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:23 am

Well, I love Greece and I am learning the language at the moment. It's pretty cool.

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