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Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:53 pm

Ahhhh yeah sure.

Rolling Stone has to do something to boost lagging sales by putting a photo of West as Christ on their cover. Too bad they have to offend a few people to do it.

I wonder if Rolling Stone would put a photo of say Martin Luther King as a homosexual in pink tights? Would we be as happy with that? Probably not I'd dare say.

Let's not offend anyone Rolling Stone and try to be sensitive to your readers.

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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:08 pm

What's the outrage all about?
Many actors/celebrities have posed as Jesus Christ.
What's the big deal?
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:23 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
What's the big deal?

I would assume that its because Kanye West is an arrogant moron.

Sorta sacrilegious, don't you think?
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:27 pm

You can say the same about Mel Gibson.
Just because you may not agree with the man doesn't mean he can't pose as Jesus Christ.
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:55 pm

Big deal.
I still don't see why there would be any outrage over this.
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:11 pm

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 4):
http://www.thesuperficial.com/archives/2005/09/06/kanye_west_is.html

That was probably the tv moment of the year for 2005. It puts Susan's rant on the first Survivor to shame.

Quoting Clipperhawaii (Thread starter):
Too bad they have to offend a few people to do it.

I think anything Mel Brooks' has done to poke fun at Je$u$ or Moses (while I find it all utterly hilarious) would be more 'offensive' by association than a black Je$u$.

But look at how Like A Prayer turned out. Classic!

Quoting Clipperhawaii (Thread starter):
I wonder if Rolling Stone would put a photo of say Martin Luther King as a homosexual in pink tights? Would we be as happy with that? Probably not I'd dare say.

He wanted equal rights, didn't he?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Big deal.
I still don't see why there would be any outrage over this.

exactly.

[Edited 2006-01-25 11:25:54]
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:14 pm

Quoting Clipperhawaii (Thread starter):

Is it really neccessary for you to object to anything that's even the slightest bit contraversial? You've posted a thread like this once or twice a week since I've joined a.net. No disrespect intended here, this just doesn't seem like it's worth getting that excited about...the guy thinks "Gold Digger" was the best song of 2005! I think music is going down the shitter too Kanye, but I'll give it a little more credit than that.
 
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:21 pm

Well said STLGph.

I can't even name one Kanye West song. Since he is popular, I am sure his music is awful.  Smile

I always thought that it was silly to portray Jesus as a White man with blue eyes and blonde hair. Look at the region Jesus came from.
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:25 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
I always thought that it was silly to portray Jesus as a White man with blue eyes and blonde hair. Look at the region Jesus came from.

exactly, and the way he was able to get his hair to grow out. dude was stylin.
i always liked his shoes, though, and a few years ago at Saks Fifth Avenue i found a pair of D & G sandals that were severely marked down that looked just like Je$u$'s shoes. i couldn't pass up the opportunity to get them and to this day everyone comments on them being Je$u$ sandals when i wear them.

if i come to Vegas, i'll bring them just for you.

[Edited 2006-01-25 11:26:14]
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:29 pm

STLGph:
You know it's ironic. If someone who looked like Jesus walked in to a fundmentalist Christian (Baptist) church today, he'd be kicked out!
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:38 pm

I think it's sad that he's posing as a saviour (of any kind) and posing as a hard done by black man from the ghettos when he's nothing more than a spoiled little rich kid from Chicago... I mean... come on... Why wouldn't someone find this insulting?
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:41 pm

Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 11):
I think it's sad that he's posing as a saviour (of any kind) and posing as a hard done by black man from the ghettos when he's nothing more than a spoiled little rich kid from Chicago... I mean... come on... Why wouldn't someone find this insulting?

This is actually a relevant point. I guess I don't know much about Kanye's upbringing...do you have some sources to back your "spoiled little rich kid" statement up? Not trying to stir the pot, just looking for some reason why anybody should care about this.
 
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:45 pm

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 12):
do you have some sources to back your "spoiled little rich kid" statement up?

I don't now, No - I read it a while ago on my old computer (which is now dead) - I'll try and find it for you but no promises (It may not have even been true... even still It's stupid for anyone to pose as someone who's a saviour to an entire religeon)
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:49 pm

What difference does it make what Kanye West's upbringing was?

Unless Clipperhawaii or likeminded clone can come up with a concrete reason to be outraged, people will see it as his skin color being the main issue.
Would Clipperhawaii be upset if it were Denzel Washington or Blair Underwood portraying Jesus?

No one is accusing you yet Clipperhawaii.

[Edited 2006-01-25 11:51:58]
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:50 pm

Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 13):
still It's stupid for anyone to pose as someone who's a saviour to an entire religeon)

Why? Jesus doesn't mean much to me, but I still think Kanye West is pretty stupid. Those of you that object to this photo shoot should be asking why Kanye is posing as Christ (i.e. "what's the symbolism here?") instead of just posting objections on a.net. Not to say that this is a particularly earth-shattering moment in American culture, but the world would be a pretty boring place if somebody didn't stir the pot every once in awhile. By freaking out over this magazine cover, you're giving a self-indulgent celebrity exactly what he wants. Ignore it and let it go.
 
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:54 pm

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 15):
Ignore it and let it go.

True... It's not like I'll ever be supporting him in any way, matter or form
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:54 pm

Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 13):
It's stupid for anyone to pose as someone who's a saviour to an entire religeon)

How about Mel Gibson and many other actors in the past that have?
Have you seen the movie 'Last Temptation of Christ'?
If so, were as outraged?
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:58 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
STLGph:
You know it's ironic. If someone who looked like Jesus walked in to a fundmentalist Christian (Baptist) church today, he'd be kicked out!

It's that hair! I'm telling you.

One more time for the fun of it:

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0205/jesushair.html

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Would Clipperhawaii be upset if it were Denzel Washington or Blair Underwood portraying Jesus?

yes

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
No one is accusing you yet Clipperhawaii.

too late!

Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 11):
I think it's sad that he's posing as a saviour (of any kind) and posing as a hard done by black man from the ghettos when he's nothing more than a spoiled little rich kid from Chicago... I mean... come on... Why wouldn't someone find this insulting?

it's okay for Ted Neeley, white rocker, to play Je$u$ but a black man can't.

hrmmm. however, i bet you loved Yvonne Elliman as Mary Magdalene.
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:58 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
How about Mel Gibson and many other actors in the past that have?
Have you seen the movie 'Last Temptation of Christ'?

No real interest... You mean "The passion of the christ" ? Or something else...
I'm an athiest, I mean, If they're playing the part of jesus that's telling a story in a visual form... I don't think It's so bad, but you've made me second guess myself and I'm not really sure what I think now...

I just don't believe in anyone saying that they are a re-incarnation (or the sorts) of Christ himself (I'm an athiest but I don't think doing something like this is very respectful to a religeon)

Just like those Jesus/Mary is my Home boy/girl Shirts
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:00 pm

Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 19):

Just like those Jesus/Mary is my Home boy/girl Shirts

those are great!
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:01 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):

The skin-color factor is interesting. I recall similar outrage back in 1999 when Nas and Puff Daddy appeared in the "Hate Me Now" video on crosses with crowns of thorns. Puff Daddy had his scenes withdrawn before the video aired, but Nas stood his ground and caused quite a stir. I suppose we can't make a lot of inferences off of this since there's not really any equivalent to this where a white man is posing as Christ, but you raise a good point.
 
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:04 pm

Quoting STLGph (Reply 20):
those are great!

To be honest, I think they're amusing but I still think they're disrespectful but in the saying that, If I see someone wearing them out in public, I don't really pay much more attention than I notice them and thats it

I guess I'm conflicted on what I think, I guess It's not all that bad though...
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:26 pm

Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 19):
You mean "The passion of the christ" ? Or something else...

'The Last Temptation of Christ' came out in 1988. A different movie.
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:47 pm

Quoting Clipperhawaii (Thread starter):
Cancel my subscription.

The fact that Kanye West is depicted as Christ makes me want to subscribe to Rolling Stone -- but only so that I can immediately cancel it with a scorching, and condemnatory, complaint.
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:18 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
You can say the same about Mel Gibson.
Just because you may not agree with the man doesn't mean he can't pose as Jesus Christ.

I didn't see Mel claiming his addiction for pornography while casting for Jesus:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Musi.../24/people.kanyewest.ap/index.html

The strangest tangent of the Rolling Stone story, however, is when West says he's addicted to pornography. He remembers first seeing his father's Playboy magazine when he was 5 years old.

"Right then," West says, laughing, "it was like, 'Houston, we have a problem.' "


I agree that there's nothing wrong with people posing as Christ for the sake of acting, but the problem is that this guy probably thinks that he lives the part somehow. Pair that up with his love of pornography and you see where it might offend someone.
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:29 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
What's the big deal?

I think it was stated best in "The Big Lebowski": "You don't f*ck with the Jesus."

Especially not if you're black and half of the US population thinks you're an arrogant douche.

That's not how I think, but you mess around with religion and someone is bound to get their panties in a bunch.

Lest we forget the man performed a song titled "Jesus Walks". Kanye can be a pompous ass, but if any of you bothered to listen to his music (and not just the radio singles), you'd see there's a lot more to him than just plain arrogance.

Quoting Brendan03 (Reply 11):
I think it's sad that he's posing as a saviour (of any kind) and posing as a hard done by black man from the ghettos when he's nothing more than a spoiled little rich kid from Chicago...

I don't think dude has ever tried to play the "hard-ass black man from the ghetto." Have you bothered listening to his music? Probably not. The guy grew up middle class, not a spoiled rich kid. He worked at the Gap for a while. It's even mentioned in a couple of songs.

The Rolling Stone cover is a ploy to get people talking and sell issues. And guess what?

It worked.
 
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:47 am

Quoting CactusA319 (Reply 26):
The Rolling Stone cover is a ploy to get people talking and sell issues. And guess what?

Sure did.

I wonder how long will it be before they pose Madonna as, well... the Madonna?
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:59 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
I always thought that it was silly to portray Jesus as a White man with blue eyes and blonde hair. Look at the region Jesus came from.

No Joke!
What's even more amusing are the ones who actually get upset/offended when the man's not shown as white! ...as if it's a violation of what's supposed to be.  crazy 

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
You know it's ironic. If someone who looked like Jesus walked in to a fundmentalist Christian (Baptist) church today, he'd be kicked out!

Why? Because he'd be Arabic? Or because he'd be ugly (as the Bible very clearly states he would)
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:50 am

This was mentioned on Howard Stern this morning, mainly because about 10 or so years ago, Howard was photographed for a Rolling Stone cover doing the same exact thing and Jann Wenner rejected the cover. He claimed it would cause an uproar and nixed that cover. Of course at times it sees as though R.S. (and Jann Wenner) will publish any kind of photo David La Chappelle takes.........
 
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:08 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
You know it's ironic. If someone who looked like Jesus walked in to a fundmentalist Christian (Baptist) church today, he'd be kicked out!

Even more ironic that if he walked into some of those same churches preaching what he actually preached about tolerance and charity and loving thy neighbor, they'd probably kill him...

I'd like to see Fred Phelps vesus Jesus one on one in a South Park episode...
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:09 am



Looks disturbingly similar to:





Yet I don't recall any objections to the movie poster. Objections to the movie itself, yes. But I can't remember anyone crying about Jim Caviezel as Christ... This is especially shocking considering he has insulted the intelligence of millions of moviegoers by appearing in such films as 'Ed', 'GI Jane' and 'Pay it Forward'. As far as I know, Kanye West only insulted Bushie.
 
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:17 am

Quoting Clipperhawaii (Thread starter):
Rolling Stone has to do something to boost lagging sales by putting a photo of West as Christ on their cover. Too bad they have to offend a few people to do it.

yes, such a shame.

its too bad other major broadcast companies and the US government cannot kowtow to the evangelicals for fear of sensitivity and losing support....


...oh wait.
 
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:15 am

Quoting N229NW (Reply 30):
I'd like to see Fred Phelps vesus Jesus one on one in a South Park episode...

...or bring back Celebrity Death Match!  Silly
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:24 am

Quoting CactusA319 (Reply 26):
Especially not if you're black

What does that mean exactly?
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:13 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
You know it's ironic. If someone who looked like Jesus walked in to a fundmentalist Christian (Baptist) church today, he'd be kicked out!

And you know that because you've spent how many years as a member of fundamentalist Baptist church...?



I don't read Rolling Stone, never will subscribe, most likely, but this fundamentalist Southern Baptist thinks that this is a complete non-issue. Offended by what?

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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:03 am

Did any of you think that maybe he isnt posing AS Christ, but rather comparing himself to Christ in some way...? I think it would have been a lot more... shocking...if Kanye had posed as if he were on the Cross. He is shown with a crown of thorns, maybe alluding that he is suffering for some reason......I dunno. When I first heard about it, I thought it would bother me, but really its not that offensive when you see it. He's drawing some comparison.... and Rolling Stone needs to sell copies....they've got a seller this month.

It could be a lot more serious than this... If the cross was shown, then it'd be an uproar.

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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:37 pm

Came across this little tid bit on a blog.

"If he's REALLY trying to get attention, he should've posed as Mohammad instead of Jesus. But of course the latter is safer and less risky than the former, isn't it?"


Perhaps that's the dig here. I don't think this magazine (Rolling Stone) should be interested in insulting or at the very least be provocative in their cover art that has really no bearing on the article itself. It's just a dig at a segment of society that may and perhaps will find offensive. Why such then need to offend? They want to sell magazines and damn to those who are offended.

Again. Why offend? Just give us the article about West.

There is still in our society a thing as "poor taste". This was it.

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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:14 am

Quoting AA777 (Reply 36):
It could be a lot more serious than this... If the cross was shown, then it'd be an uproar.

Yeah, but I think its more because this guy is just an idiot. If it were anyone else, it would probably cause some dissension and chaos, but not as much as this. The fact that he probably thinks of himself in this light is what makes it that much more pathetic.
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RE: Kanye West As Christ?

Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:45 am

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 34):
Quoting CactusA319 (Reply 26):
Especially not if you're black

What does that mean exactly?

It means some people have a problem with a black person portraying themselves as Jesus on a magazine cover. As much people try to downplay it, racism still exists in this country.

BTW, has anyone here actually read the article in question?

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