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Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:50 am

Not sure if this has been covered here yet...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,1702104,00.html

Governments across Europe, the Middle East and Asia were reluctantly sucked into the Danish cartoon row yesterday as hundreds of thousands of Muslims took to the streets to protest.

The dispute spread to London for the first time. More than 500 people, led by the extremist group al-Ghuraba, formerly al-Mujahiroun, marched to the Danish embassy in Knightsbridge carrying banners calling on Muslims to "massacre" those who insult Islam and chanting: "Britain, you will pay, 7/7 on its way."
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:03 am

While I don't agree with the extremist groups, the Danish press was not very smart to publish that cartoon twice.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:07 am

It's been covered... in several threads  Wink

Quoting David b. (Reply 1):
While I don't agree with the extremist groups, the Danish press was not very smart to publish that cartoon twice.

Why shouldn't they? We live in a free country, the only people who aren't smart are the ones who take this to extremes- and that isn't denmark.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:09 am

If they know that a reaction like this was going to happen, and with the volatile situation in the middle east, the newspapers themselves should have take precautions. Its like someone yelling fire or bomb in a crowed building.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:13 am

Quoting David b. (Reply 3):
If they know that a reaction like this was going to happen, and with the volatile situation in the middle east, the newspapers themselves should have take precautions. Its like someone yelling fire or bomb in a crowed building.

But they DIDN'T know. Who in their right mind would go this far over a bunch of drawings?

JyllandsPosten said that all they wanted was to test how far they could go before any (moderate) reactions happened. I don't think anyone expected this. If they knew this was to happen, of course they wouldn't have published the drawings.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:14 am

JyllandsPosten said that all they wanted was to test how far they could go before any (moderate) reactions happened. I don't think anyone expected this. If they knew this was to happen, of course they wouldn't have published the drawings.



Not very smart to push your luck.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:16 am

Quoting David b. (Reply 5):

Not very smart to push your luck.

They wanted a discussion. Not jihaad or boycot or anything.

Come on- would YOU expect a bunch of cartoons to create this much havoc?
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:19 am

Seriously, given the situation in the middle east and the reactions to past events, the have to have know something like this was going to happen. The guy still pushed his luck, so here we have a strong backlash.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:19 am

Quoting Jap (Reply 4):
Who in their right mind would go this far over a bunch of drawings?

Muslims have been very loyal to their religion over the years. Everyone
knows how we react to ridicule of our Prophets and Imams. Don't
forget Salman Rushdie. Don't give me that BS. They went out of their way
to make fun of our religion and they knew exactly the reaction they would
get. I do not like violence at all but they should have known better.

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:19 am

And they wonder why these savages were shown this way in a CARTOON.

They freak out and riot over a CARTOON. They deserve to be made fun of.
 
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:22 am

The reaction might have been a too strong but they knew this was going to happen.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:24 am

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 9):
They freak out and riot over a CARTOON. They deserve to be made fun of.

Ironically enough, this whole incident will likely create many more cartoons ridiculing Islam...Just further creating more stereotypes on both sides.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:24 am

Ironically enough, this whole incident will likely create many more cartoons ridiculing Islam...Just further creating more stereotypes on both sides.


Sad but true.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:25 am

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 9):
And they wonder why these savages were shown this way in a CARTOON.

They freak out and riot over a CARTOON. They deserve to be made fun of.

 thumbsup 

I don't agree that they deserve to be made fun of. But the reaction is way too ridiculous...

it's a bloody cartoon... people in saudi arabia burn bibles EVERY DAY, and it's even prohibited to bring a bible into the country... yet, when we publish a bloody cartoon, hell breaks loose... honestly...
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:25 am

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 9):
They freak out and riot over a CARTOON. They deserve to be made fun of.

Don't give me that "THEY" bullshit. Not all muslims are out there over reacting.
Nobody makes fun of our Prophet. The person who drew those disgusting
pictures and the person who authorized to have them published are
racist pigs.

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:27 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 14):
The person who drew those disgusting
pictures and the person who authorized to have them published are
racist pigs.

Nopes. They just liked money and publicity very much. I don't think they give a f*ck about islam.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:28 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 14):
The person who drew those disgusting
pictures and the person who authorized to have them published are
racist pigs.

Just as much as those in the muslim world who publish anti-semetic and anti-israel cartoons.

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 14):
Not all muslims are out there over reacting.

No, but they are making it hard for the rest of the world to have any sympathy.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:29 am

PIA777 I understand that you do not want to be compared with THEM, and please don't feel that it is Muslims like you.

There is just no easy way to speak with out the word them going into the context.

The fact is that the tv shows a mass of people, calling them other stuff than they or them would really complicate discussing the ordeal now wouldn't it?

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 14):
Nobody makes fun of our Prophet. The person who drew those disgusting
pictures and the person who authorized to have them published are
racist pigs.

Are you saying they shouldn't have been allowed to publish the cartoon?
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 8):
They went out of their way
to make fun of our religion and they knew exactly the reaction they would
get. I do not like violence at all but they should have known better.

"They should have known better" What kind of excuse is that? Why is it that the Arab media regularly publishes Anti American and Semitic material? Maybe the next time American bombs fall on an Arab country and kill civilians I will they, "Maybe they should have known better.."

The Arab world ought to be ashamed of the violent response to a bunch of cartoons. Where is their self restraint? Why can't they protest peacefully?

What gives them the right to dictate to a SOVEREIGN nation? Who are they to call for limits on OUR freedoms? Newsflash, the world isn't under Islamic Law. Respect is EARNED not commanded by Islamic Extremists! Right now Muslim extremists are "going out of their way" to Burn Embassies...Hmm, so if Denmark loads up a bunch of F-16's with bombs and retaliates, are you going to criticize them?

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:31 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 14):
Don't give me that "THEY" bullshit. Not all muslims are out there over reacting.
Nobody makes fun of our Prophet. The person who drew those disgusting
pictures and the person who authorized to have them published are
racist pigs.

PIA777

So what about those hundreds of people that set the embassy on fire, they are fine, right, because someone drew a cartoon. Totally on the same level. Im going to have some bacon now.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:36 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 8):
Muslims have been very loyal to their religion over the years. Everyone
knows how we react to ridicule of our Prophets and Imams. Don't
forget Salman Rushdie. Don't give me that BS. They went out of their way
to make fun of our religion and they knew exactly the reaction they would
get. I do not like violence at all but they should have known better.

Pathetic and patronising nonsense.

Freedom of speech and freedom of the press are fundamental. Much more so than any percieved right to practice religion or not be offended.

Protest is one thing, threatening death upon the editors of the papers is another thing. It must always be borne in mind that the West is liberal. Whether Islam fits into that idea or not is another debate, but Muslims must remember that the West has fought fascism before, and will fight and win again if need be.

That being said, there are racial tensiosn in Denmark. The cartoon itself isn't funny, and is pretty insulting in my mind. Furthermore, the re-printing of the cartoon in the European press was a clear attempt to piss people off. While no one denies the press are free, just because they can do something doesn't mean they should do something.

The complete overreaction and threats from some members of the Muslim population cannot be excused, however. If you don't like the liberalism of the West, feel free to leave.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:37 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 14):
The person who drew those disgusting
pictures and the person who authorized to have them published are
racist pigs.

You are right but doing this now does nothing to help the 'muslim world', it just reinforces people's preduces against them. That's just my opinion.
 
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:38 am

Speaking of racist pigs, I have yet to see PIA777 complain about the gross anti-semetism prevalent throughout the Islamic press.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:42 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 14):
Nobody makes fun of our Prophet.

That may well be true in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, but in the West you can make fun of what ever you like. The cartoons in question are rude and offensive, there is no doubt, but hearing or seeing rude and offensive things from time to time is something you have to accept in a free society. You cannot have pluralism and freedom of expression if you are going to subordinate people's right to free speech to religious taboos.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:47 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 23):
Speaking of racist pigs, I have yet to see PIA777 complain about the gross anti-semetism prevalent throughout the Islamic press.

Yes, we've been asking that question time and time again, but no one will answer us.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:52 am

PIA77's response is so typical of the responses from the Islamic world this week. The west has no right to make fun of us, make fun of our prophet, and somehow we should know better.

Hey, get a clue. Freedom means the freedom for someone to say absolutely stupid things, and the it also means the freedom to protest or ignore it.
Issuing fatwas, burning down buildings, and the like, and only making the entire faith seem medieval and incompatible with the modern world.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:57 am

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 26):
Issuing fatwas, burning down buildings, and the like, and only making the entire faith seem medieval and incompatible with the modern world.

That's the entire point, they don't want to be a part of the modern world, that is the extremist factions.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:08 am

I dont think it was right to publish the cartoon but the words "Denmark you will pay 7/7 is on it's way" is just scary and holding a banner saying "Europes 9/11 will come" is just wrong! I know that not all Muslims are doing this but it is a large amount of people and can be a big threat.
 
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:10 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 18):
Are you saying they shouldn't have been allowed to publish the cartoon?

I think they should have used better judgement.

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:13 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 29):

I think they should have used better judgement.

I think this goes better with the Muslims' reaction. I think I'm going to go burn down an embassy the next time I don't agree with a country's actions.  Yeah sure

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:13 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 29):
I think they should have used better judgement.

STILL no condemnation of the anti-semetisim rife in the Muslim press!
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:17 am

You want to make fun of muslims who blow people up and fly planes into
buildings and who are stoping the peace process in Israel and Palestine
and those people in Iraq. Fine with me. Those few muslims who do
that deserve more then just ridicule. I would personall like to line them up
and slap them till their teeth fall out but when you make drawings of our
Prophet (Who preached anti-violence and peace), thats where I draw the line.

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:20 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 16):
Just as much as those in the muslim world who publish anti-semetic and anti-israel cartoons

They would be a shame who ever did that. Could you please show me these
drawings. I think all religions should be respected and other people should
not make fun of another man's religion.

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:56 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 34):
Could you please show me these
drawings.

http://www.adl.org/main_Arab_World/asam_july_dec_intro_2005.htm
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:00 am

Quoting FiddleSticks (Reply 35):
Quoting PIA777 (Reply 34):
Could you please show me these
drawings.

http://www.adl.org/main_Arab_World/a...5.htm

That is awful, the Jews of the world should have protested.

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:01 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 36):
What a lovely peaceful religion

It is a lovely peacful religion. I will overlook your sarcasm.

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:03 am

Quoting FiddleSticks (Reply 35):

..., and that's just from a six month period. This has been going on for decades.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:04 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 38):
It is a lovely peacful religion. I will overlook your sarcasm.

So what is with all the crap on the news then? Peace protests?  Yeah sure
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:05 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 34):
I think all religions should be respected and other people should
not make fun of another man's religion.

Just look at Jehovas Witnesses. They get made fun of all the time. You don't see them running round burning buildings and stuff. If you believe in your religion so much it shouldn't matter what anyone else thinks.
 
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:07 am

Quoting Dan2002 (Reply 20):
So what about those hundreds of people that set the embassy on fire, they are fine, right, because someone drew a cartoon. Totally on the same level. Im going to have some bacon now.

Those people who set fire to the Embassy are idots who need to be
brought to justice. You are not offending any muslim by going out
and filling your arteries with pig blubber.

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:07 am

PIA777, come off it, the Islamic world is notorious for, as in quite recent Arab press 'cartoons,' depicting Jews as cannibal's, making 'films' based on the old 'Elders Of Sion' myths.
You know it, don't affect ignorance (though that will of course fit right in which all these 'protests'), there are enough Islamist websites out there, including Arabic press ones.

Why can you not bring a Bible into Saudi? Wear a crucifix?
Church burning in Pakistan, those little girls beheaded in Indonesia?
The list goes on.

If a bunch of ignorants still stuck in the 7th century cannot handle the fact that there is such a thing as free societies, no wonder the once proud reputation of Islamic art, science, scholarship, has ground to a halt in recent centuries.

Many of those protesting in Europe, make quite clear that we in the West are the shit on their shoes, what are they doing living here then, in our 'toilet' as one called it?
As well as making life very heard for the peacable, settled (as the usually more successful) Muslims living here?

I don't care for any religion.
Christianity has a bloody past (like Islam), but had the enlightenment.
In the UK, Hindus, Buddhists, Sheiks for the most part, have done well, it's not been easy, but the Muslims have not done nearly so well as a percentage.

We made a mistake in not locking up, for incitement, all those screaming for Salman Rushdies blood in 1989- because if I went around screaming for someone to be killed, I'd have got police attention.

The UK has bent over backwards to try and accommodate Muslims, many, probably a majority, don't need accommodating, doing fine as they are.
If the rest don't like it, take a hike, back from where you, or your parents came, you know, the places without the free health service, without the welfare, without the training for opportunities, without the equal treatment of one half of the human race.

If you want to believe in mythical men in the sky, we shall not treat you any differently than other faiths.
For the most part, Christians are mature enough, secure enough, not to react violently any real, or imagined slight.

Bottom line for PIA777, more so for the more extreme others;
If your faith is so strong, so real, it will take a bit of ridicule, if it, through it followers cannot, and can be so manipulated by 'elders', I would suggest you take a long hard look at it.
Other major faiths mostly can, what's YOUR problem?
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:07 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 38):
It is a lovely peacful religion.

Of course it is...  airplane   bomb   devil   footinmouth 

This article adds quite interesting perspectve.

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§...6&pix=kingdom.jpg&category=Kingdom
 
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:11 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 37):
That is awful, the Jews of the world should have protested.

No doubt they should have attacked the artists and burned down buildings in protest, but they didn't because they (for the most part) are sane.

This, coupled with the murdered film maker, and the riots in France should remind the world of the sleeping giant that is Radislam.

I for one, and I don't care if I get flamed, am sick and tired of the apologists and those that would walk on egg shells for fear of invoking a reaction or even retribution from the Muslim world.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:16 am

I think the west (as the muslim world calls it) can be proud of making the (as they call it)Arab world's overall record look much better now. I would have hoped the change would have come by them actually getting better than the west getting lower.

The west can be proud of its freedom of speech and expressions under which anyone can say and do anything, yet things like wearing head scarfes are getting increasingly banned in european states, denying holocaust is a prosecutable crime and yet the media (supposed to be be spreading INFORMATION) can claim 'we didn't know... . ANY muslim could have told you how offensive it is to one if the largest religions of the world.
And I am hearing they have been republished.

And lets get one thing straight!!! THE ONLY THING this act can be compared with is a similar depiction of Jesus and Moses by the muslims, something that NO muslim can EVER do. Most of you are no different than those who mirror you on the other side that you call without tolerence.
 
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:48 am

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 32):
I would personall like to line them up
and slap them till their teeth fall out but when you make drawings of our
Prophet (Who preached anti-violence and peace), thats where I draw the line.

I brought this up in another thread but a few years ago, American Eagle Clothing company made a series of clothes poking fun at Hindu Dieties. There were dieties on the bottom of sandals, which in our culture is considered sacrilege. The handbags featured Ganesha (the one with the elephant's head) snacking on peanuts. Believe me Hindus were VERY upset about it too. But through a lot of protest, those items were eventually pulled. Now how hard is it for the Muslim world to use this route of protest?

And what makes it worse is the hypocrisy in all of this. In the UAE, a liberal gulf nation, textbook references to non-Muslim religions are physically scratched out by the government, and non-Muslim religious icons are sometimes desecrated. Muslim immigrants demand respect from their host nations, but can't even respect their OWN guests.
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:16 am

Quoting Bravo45 (Reply 46):
The west can be proud of its freedom of speech and expressions under which anyone can say and do anything, yet things like wearing head scarfes are getting increasingly banned in european states, denying holocaust is a prosecutable crime and yet the media (supposed to be be spreading INFORMATION) can claim 'we didn't know... . ANY muslim could have told you how offensive it is to one if the largest religions of the world.
And I am hearing they have been republished.

What part of Freedom of Speech do you not understand??? Our country OUR rules. Denying the Holocaust? Are you kidding me? I think there are 5 Million Jews who might disagree with your perverted assertion that it never happened. Who the hell are you to impose your religion on us? What do you want next? All women to wear head scarves. Get over yourself. These people are IMMIGRANTS in Europe..They Chose to live there.

I don't see you criticizing those who are calling for the murder of Danish citizens, burning embassies, and enacting boycotts.All you are doing is making excuses for them.

Quoting Bravo45 (Reply 46):
THE ONLY THING this act can be compared with is a similar depiction of Jesus and Moses by the muslims, something that NO muslim can EVER do. Most of you are no different than those who mirror you on the other side that you call without tolerence.

Bull$hit. Read the following:

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 47):
I brought this up in another thread but a few years ago, American Eagle Clothing company made a series of clothes poking fun at Hindu Dieties. There were dieties on the bottom of sandals, which in our culture is considered sacrilege. The handbags featured Ganesha (the one with the elephant's head) snacking on peanuts. Believe me Hindus were VERY upset about it too. But through a lot of protest, those items were eventually pulled. Now how hard is it for the Muslim world to use this route of protest?

And what makes it worse is the hypocrisy in all of this. In the UAE, a liberal gulf nation, textbook references to non-Muslim religions are physically scratched out by the government, and non-Muslim religious icons are sometimes desecrated. Muslim immigrants demand respect from their host nations, but can't even respect their OWN guests.

Finally,

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 47):
I would personall like to line them up
and slap them till their teeth fall out but when you make drawings of our
Prophet (Who preached anti-violence and peace), thats where I draw the line.

And Islam is a peaceful religion? Your response is so typical of what is wrong in the Arab world today...What is going is uncivilized plain and simple. Why can't you demonstrate peacefully? Show some Self-Restraint for goodness sakes. If think you can push the West around, you are in for a nasty surprise. The West stood against Hitler and they will stand against this.

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:17 am

Quoting JamesAg96 (Reply 45):
for one, and I don't care if I get flamed, am sick and tired of the apologists and those that would walk on egg shells for fear of invoking a reaction or even retribution from the Muslim world.

Although I often condemn unwarranted bigotry toward peaceful average Muslims in the U.S., this is a great point. We can't allow extremists with no tolerance for our free thinking society to commit rampant violence as in Denmark and Norway. If Muslims there want to PEACEFULLY protest the cartoons as grossly insensitive, that should be their right but rampant street violence there and burning down embassies in other countries, even Syria, is unacceptable and should be put down by any means necessary. As per above, denigration of other religious beliefs is tolerated, even encouraged, in some Muslim countries but how dare anyone in the world make light of anything to do with Islam. A gigantic double standard appears to be prevalent, there.

Quoting PIA777 (Reply 14):
Nobody makes fun of our Prophet.

PIA777, I can well understand why you and your Muslim breathren are offended but many in the world daily refer to Jesus Christ as a non-important historical figure, a minor prophet, NOT the Savior, or even a fraudulent representation but do you see Christian followers rioting en masse over what is said by non-believers? For the most part, you don't. If you were to portray Christ in the most negative, unflattering way you could think of, I might be offended but I wouldn't KILL you over it, as some radical Muslim leaders are advocating for those behind the cartoons. Although you profess tolerance for other faiths, your comment speaks otherwise. And if Islam were truly the peaceful religion it's professed to be, more Islamic leaders would also be speaking out against the violence, not just the cartoons that spiked it. You can't expect those outside your faith to always have the sensitivity to recognize that something they might say or do would inadvertently offend your religion and when that does happen, a simple apology SHOULD BE more than sufficient. Face it, freedom of speech occasionally means someone won't like what you say but that's the way it is here and in most European nations. If you can't deal with that, maybe you'd be better off moving to one of the more fundamentalist Muslim states with NO tolerance for freedom of speech.
 
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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 40):
So what is with all the crap on the news then? Peace protests?

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RE: Worldwide Muslim Reaction To Denmark Cartoons

Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:39 am

Quoting B757300 (Reply 51):
anything is an excuse for a jihad.

And you prove once again you don't know the defination of that word.

Quoting B757300 (Reply 51):
I hate to say this but I am starting to believe this will end only one way and that is in a true World War. Muslims just do not seem to be capable of living in peace with anyone who isn't a Muslim. The only thing that seems to keep them in check is brute force and that may be what it takes to stop this nonsense once and for all.

Well, so much for promoting peace and freedom. Keep it up though, only 9 more posts till you have 4000 posts of complete and utter racist  redflag 
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