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Abu Hamza Guilty

Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:14 pm

Developing story, guilty of soliciting to murder

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4688846.stm

"Mr Abu Hamza faces nine charges under the Offences Against the Person Act 1861, which allege that he solicited others at public meetings to murder Jews and other non-Muslims."

[Edited 2006-02-07 14:15:11]
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:24 am

Not too surprising..
 
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:35 am

Good, This guy needs to be removed from society. To bad he can't be beheaded and mounted on Traitors Gate, just for free speech reasons
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:03 am

She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:17 am

The more time he spends in the slammer the better.
 
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:45 am

Thanks goodness for that, pity we can't ship him back home to serve his time.

Now lets move on to those "protesters" from last weekend.....



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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:09 am

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 5):
Thanks goodness for that, pity we can't ship him back home to serve his time.

Considering the fact that a terrorist mastermind escaped from a prison in Yemen(with inside help most likely), I don't really have much faith in the mideast region holding these nobs.
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:32 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 3):
He's got 7 years.

Long enough to finish reading his encyclopaedia of Afghani Jihad. Why don't we just boot him out for good and let Bush have him?  Smile
 
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:38 am

Oh well, I wonde what is running through his mind right now?

I hope as a favour to him the judge handed him a bottle of ANAL lube cause he is gonna need it. Despite him being incarcerated with other reprobates, im sure they will use some proudly British mentality on him....... just to make it hurt more.

"And allah will strike u down", wham up the but. No one striking him down, lets see his faith now.

Yo see the swollen black eye he has already?

It's gonna be a long long seven years my son.
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:58 am

The US does indeed have a interest in 'Capt Hook'.
So he might yet leave the UK prison frying pan, to go to a US Supermax fire.
 
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:14 am

Quoting GDB (Reply 9):
The US does indeed have a interest in 'Capt Hook'.
So he might yet leave the UK prison frying pan, to go to a US Supermax fire.

whichever way, he's in the shit when he comes out.

The US can apply for his extradition, or he can be tossed out as his British citizenship has been revoked. If and when he comes out it may well be straight back into Belmarsh to await deportation.
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:31 am

Personally, I think they should chop his hands off!
 
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:47 am

Quoting Ibhayi (Reply 8):
It's gonna be a long long seven years my son.

Less time served and good behaviour, he could be out in 2. What a system.
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:48 am

One thing he won't be able to do inside, to pass the time, is to knock one out!
 
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:41 am

The US indictment includes charges that merit the death penalty. Under UK law it is my understanding that the US Government would have to sign a formal agreement that precludes a death sentence or there can be no extradition.

From the DoJ Press Release:

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2004/May/04_crm_371.htm

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Following Hamza’s arrest in London, an 11-count indictment returned by a federal grand jury on April 19, 2004 in the Southern District of New York was unsealed. The indictment charges Hamza with hostage taking and conspiracy to take hostages, in connection with an attack in Yemen in December 1998 that resulted in the death of four hostages. The indictment also charges Hamza with providing material support to terrorists, and specifically to al Qaeda, for allegedly attempting to set up a terrorist training camp in Bly, Oregon, from October 1999 to early 2000. The indictment also includes charges of providing material support to terrorists, specifically to al Qaeda and the Taliban, for facilitating violent jihad in Afghanistan.

The maximum sentence for the hostage taking charges is the death penalty or life imprisonment. Hamza also faces a maximum sentence of up to 100 years in prison on the additional charges contained in the indictment.

If he is convicted in the US, he will undoubtedly spend the rest of his life in prison.
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:06 am

Quoting GDB (Reply 13):
One thing he won't be able to do inside, to pass the time, is to knock one out!

well anyway that jerk they locked up today has got a job waiting for him in the jug. He can save us a few quid and be Hamza's arse wiper.

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 14):
If he is convicted in the US, he will undoubtedly spend the rest of his life in prison.

if he gets extradited, if not he'll be going back to Egypt as he's no longer a UK citizen.

Somehow I doubt he'll walk out of Belmarsh as there is plenty of crap waiting for him in the US and elsewhere. He could even face further charges here.

One possibility is that he has appealed. The appeal court could even extend his sentence.
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:30 am

good stuff. didnt realise he had been in prison for 2 years already? longer the better anyway

Quoting GDB (Reply 9):
So he might yet leave the UK prison frying pan, to go to a US Supermax fire.

hah. reverse rendition!

its a thought though. i mean no way he is going to be allowed to have those hooks in a prison is he, so what are they going to stick on his arms insted?

some kim and aggy rubber gloves? Big grin
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:34 am

Isn't the Egyptian government waiting to get their hands on him as well?

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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:41 pm

To: Charles Clarke, Home Secretary

From: Steve Hodgson, Head of Human Resources, Prison Service

Date: 7th Feb 2006

Subject: Enabling New Customers


Dear Charles,

Please accept my belated thanks for the Christmas card and small bottle
of vintage malt whisky. I wasn't aware that Asda possessed their own
distillery. How very knowledgable of you, it I may say so, Home
Secretary.

As a Key Grade One Stakeholder in the ongoing Enabling Customers
Working Group, I hope you won't object to my opportunism in sending
this memorandum. I understand from recent press reports that the
radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza has just received a sentence of seven
years. May I personally congratulate you on this success. Thanks to
you, we can all sleep more safely in our beds at night. Well, at least
we can when we're not on duty.

As you may be aware, there will be fierce competition amongst the
prison governors to secure Mr Hamza's custom. Had you given any thought
to which prison he might chose? Whilst I would be the first to applaud
your wise policy of 'Customer Choice', I think you should consider
limiting Mr Hamza's options to the larger establishments. In
particular, I would strongly advocate selecting a prison which has a
thriving entertainments initiative.

The governors of Belmarsh and Wormwood Scrubs have already been in
contact asking for permission to amend their theatrical programmes to
provide for a seasonal Christmas pantomime. Coincidentally, both have
alighted upon PETER PAN.

Far be it from me to seek to influence you on this matter, but I
thought you might like to reflect upon the prifitable photo
opportunities that could arise from such a venture were Mr Hamza to be
involved. Christmas is the perfect time to put aside cultural and
social enmity and heralde our commonly shared values (even if Muslims
don't actually celebrate Christmas). By engaging Mr Hamza in an
empathy-inducing social activity we could demonstrate to the world at
large that not only had we broken the cleric's extreme resolve, but
that we are a tolerant and forgiving society.

His hook would also come in very useful.

Yours sincerely,

Steve Hodgson
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:43 pm

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 2):
To bad he can't be beheaded and mounted on Traitors Gate

No, but Britain can tell him to sling his hook in 7 years!
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:51 pm

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 18):
By engaging Mr Hamza in an
empathy-inducing social activity we could demonstrate to the world at
large that not only had we broken the cleric's extreme resolve, but
that we are a tolerant and forgiving society.

His hook would also come in very useful.

LOL !!

Btw, how did

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 16):
its a thought though. i mean no way he is going to be allowed to have those hooks in a prison is he, so what are they going to stick on his arms insted?

An enema bottle, perhaps?
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:52 pm

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 18):
By engaging Mr Hamza in an
empathy-inducing social activity we could demonstrate to the world at
large that not only had we broken the cleric's extreme resolve, but
that we are a tolerant and forgiving society.

His hook would also come in very useful.

LOL !!

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 16):
its a thought though. i mean no way he is going to be allowed to have those hooks in a prison is he, so what are they going to stick on his arms insted?

An enema bottle, perhaps?
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RE: Abu Hamza Guilty

Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:55 pm

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 19):

No, but Britain can tell him to sling his hook in 7 years!

he'll probably try and claim all the back money for the Incapacity benefit and top rates of Disability Living Allowance he was claiming due to his injuries.

Oh and the Motability car as well.

Abu Hamza's desire to overthrow the British establishment by violent means and "hoist the black flag of Islam over Downing Street" somehow did not include claiming as much money off the State as he could. As long as there were a few taxpayers still left alive after the Jihad to pay for it....
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