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Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:15 pm

So it appears I just got my performance rating for FY05.

Got rated P (strong performance; objectives often met and exceeded, consistently reflected strong performance behavior).

My raise ? a big fat 0

Methinks FY06 will (me) be spent editing pictures and reading books.

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Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:20 pm

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
So it appears I just got my performance rating for FY05.

Hmmmm - I've got mine next week, hopefully all is not lost quite yet.

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
My raise ? a big fat 0

Ask yourself, and answer honestly ..... Do you deserve any more money for the pathetic amount of work you actually do?  Silly

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
Methinks FY06 will (me) be spent editing pictures and reading books.

Just like FY05 then ......  Smile
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:27 pm

You should be thankful for not being fired, spending so much time on a.net...  Silly
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:35 pm

Oooooooooooh the sarcasm  Smile

Don't know about you ZakHH but I am pretty sure that I do more in a day than that fool Gordonsmall does in a week  Wink as he is under the influence most than half of the time !

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Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:39 pm

How much of a raise were you expecting? I've known some people actually decline a raise, because the company felt they had to give something, but after the tax effect, the employee actually took home less, since it pushed them just into the next tax bracket.
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:43 pm

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 3):
Don't know about you ZakHH but I am pretty sure that I do more in a day than that fool Gordonsmall does in a week as he is under the influence most than half of the time !

LIES! ALL LIES I TELL YOU!

I do plenty of work in a week UTA! For example, in the past 5 days I have worked a total of 28 hours, during which I have installed 9 servers in 19" racks, installed Windows 2003 on one of them and next week I shall install Linux on several others.

Personally I think that's a hell of a week, and I fully anticipate having a few more half-days next week to compensate! Not to mention that i will be leaving at 3 o'clock today to ensure I don't overwork myself.  Smile
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:46 pm

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 3):
Don't know about you ZakHH but I am pretty sure that I do more in a day than that fool Gordonsmall does in a week

Are you talking about work or postings? Big grin

And you shouldn't blame others for your failing to consume enough "stimulants"  cloudnine 

But seriously, not getting a raise when you feel you deserved one is quite frustrating. What is your guess about the reason? It's obviously not your rating.
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:53 pm

Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 5):
For example, in the past 5 days I have worked a total of 28 hours, during which I have installed 9 servers in 19" racks, installed Windows 2003 on one of them and next week I shall install Linux on several others.

Ahh, the beauty of our RDP. Drag the image to 100s of servers at the same time then claim expenses for hundreds of hours  Wink

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Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:58 pm

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 7):
Ahh, the beauty of our RDP. Drag the image to 100s of servers at the same time then claim expenses for hundreds of hours

Ssssshhhhhhhhh! That's best kept to those of us 'in the know'.  Smile
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:05 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 4):
I've known some people actually decline a raise, because the company felt they had to give something, but after the tax effect, the employee actually took home less, since it pushed them just into the next tax bracket.

A regressive tax? How does that work? Usually you're only taxed at the higher rate on earnings above that level.

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
My raise ? a big fat 0

You do realise that in real terms that is a pay cut?
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:15 pm

haha, my pay has gone up 50% in less than 12 months Big grin
 
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:18 pm

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 10):
haha, my pay has gone up 50% in less than 12 months

Wow from 4 pounds to 6 pounds an hour  Wink

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
My raise ? a big fat 0

you think you've got reason to complain ??!! I joined my new company in November 2005 and I've got absolutely no raise at the end of the year after being there for a whole month and a half !!! How dare they ? I have decided that by way of protest i shall spend more time on a.net in 2006 - that'll teach 'em  grumpy 
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:58 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 11):
i shall spend more time on a.net in 2006

So 24-hours-per-day from the current 23?
 
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:05 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 9):
Usually you're only taxed at the higher rate on earnings above that level.

Nope, in the U.S. your entire income is taxed at the higher bracket, so even an incremental rise in gross salary can result in less net, if you're near the top end of one tax bracket, and then slightly go over the next bracket.
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:44 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 11):
you think you've got reason to complain ??!! I joined my new company in November 2005 and I've got absolutely no raise at the end of the year after being there for a whole month and a half !!! How dare they ? I have decided that by way of protest i shall spend more time on a.net in 2006 - that'll teach 'em

Well, I'll have you know that I only earn a salary of under £5,000 a year, and it'll only ever go up in line with the 10% tax threshold. Isn't that appalling? Bet you never knew how poor I am!
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:45 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 14):
Well, I'll have you know that I only earn a salary of under £5,000 a year, and it'll only ever go up in line with the 10% tax threshold. Isn't that appalling? Bet you never knew how poor I am!

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Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:47 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 14):
Well, I'll have you know that I only earn a salary of under £5,000 a year, and it'll only ever go up in line with the 10% tax threshold. Isn't that appalling? Bet you never knew how poor I am!

I thought you were retired and living off your Old Age Pension though?  Wink
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:52 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 13):
Nope, in the U.S. your entire income is taxed at the higher bracket,

Isn't that, well, sort of insane?

Quoting Cornish (Reply 16):
I thought you were retired and living off your Old Age Pension though?

Don't be mean to a poor man who only has a low salary.  grumpy   Wink

Quoting CamAir (Reply 15):
In Germany, £5,000 would buy half of Berlin.

Or three quarters of Australia.  Wink
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:53 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 17):
Don't be mean to a poor man who only has a low salary.

Tell you what, you can keep the Rolls once i've driven it into your swimming pool Big grin
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Quoting Cornish (Reply 18):
Tell you what, you can keep the Rolls once i've driven it into your swimming pool

My Rolls, you mean?  grumpy 
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:59 pm

I didn't have a raise for the last 5 years.
According to statistics published by "Der Spiegel" last week, even though Germany's export figures are booming and big companies raking in record profits, real wage development (corrected for inflation) in Germany is actually negative, means we are earning less every year, but every time the topic of raises comes up, the CEOs complain about the hardship to the companies.

In fact now even renomated economists suggest that German economy should not just depend on exports, but the local population needs more money in their pockets to consume more.

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Quoting Banco (Reply 19):
My Rolls, you mean?

No - have you forgotten you sold it to me when you realised you were down to your last million old boy ?
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:03 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 17):
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 13):Nope, in the U.S. your entire income is taxed at the higher bracket,

Isn't that, well, sort of insane?

It's even more punitive on married couples, if there's a large parity in their incomes. The wages from a part-time job by one spouse can nearly all go towards taxes, since it puts the couple together in a higher tax bracket than either of them would be individually if they file a joint tax return.
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:04 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 21):
No - have you forgotten you sold it to me when you realised you were down to your last million old boy ?

Oh dear. Who didn't read the smallprint?

Oh, and I deny absolutely that I've ever been down to my last million.  Wink
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:08 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 22):
It's even more punitive on married couples, if there's a large parity in their incomes. The wages from a part-time job by one spouse can nearly all go towards taxes, since it puts the couple together in a higher tax bracket than either of them would be individually if they file a joint tax return.

But in such circumstances, that's a major disincentive to work. Surely no politician or party would justify such an approach, it's madness from any angle. Why would they want it like that?
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:08 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 23):
Oh, and I deny absolutely that I've ever been down to my last million.

I heard that the situation at Banco Towers is getting so bad pretty soon you might have to work seeing as Mrs Banco absolutely refuses to get a third job  

The deputy housekeeper is gone, one of the chambermaids too, even the butler is starting to worry. Although I hear Mrs Banco has absolutely vetoed the idea of the fit young gardener going as part of the economy drive 

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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:12 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 25):
The deputy housekeeper is gone, one of the chambermaids too, even the butler is starting to worry. Although I hear Mrs Banco has absolutely vetoed the idea of the fit young gardner going as part of the economy drive

You're still bitter that you failed the exam to become midden-cleaner aren't you? I've told you, I only take on normal human beings. That's why both you and Kirkie were sent back to the job centre.
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:16 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 26):
You're still bitter that you failed the exam to become midden-cleaner aren't you? I've told you, I only take on normal human beings. That's why both you and Kirkie were sent back to the job centre.

Didn't Mrs Banco tell you ?? She subsequently hired me as the gardener Big grin
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:19 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 24):
Surely no politician or party would justify such an approach, it's madness from any angle.

Add even more madness to it, being the largest of Bush's tax cuts were for non-earned income, and you have the U.S. tax system.

Interesting review on some of it here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/11/18/113957/29
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:19 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 27):
Didn't Mrs Banco tell you ?? She subsequently hired me as the gardener

Oh, you're the one only prepared to work uphill, aren't you? Big grin
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:26 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 28):
Interesting review on some of it here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1...57/29

"Bush's tax commission wants to totally exempt dividends".

Um. Well, given our own tax structure, I think that's a marvellous idea, personally.  Wink

But I take your point.
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:27 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 29):
Oh, you're the one only prepared to work uphill, aren't you?

Not at all - my previous employers were most impressed with how i skillfully worked my away around their neatly trimmed bushes Big grin
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:40 pm

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
Got rated P (strong performance; objectives often met and exceeded, consistently reflected strong performance behavior).

My raise ? a big fat 0

Based on the latter I think someone is having you on that the former stands for what you write in the brackets. The latter points to it standing for Poor / Pathetic / Penniless / etc ... anything but Performance.

Quoting Banco (Reply 17):
Quoting CamAir (Reply 15):
In Germany, £5,000 would buy half of Berlin.

Or three quarters of Australia.



Quoting Banco (Reply 17):
Don't be mean to a poor man who only has a low salary.

Who's being mean now? (Mean but unfortunately true)
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:46 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 13):
Nope, in the U.S. your entire income is taxed at the higher bracket, so even an incremental rise in gross salary can result in less net, if you're near the top end of one tax bracket, and then slightly go over the next bracket.

Thats how they (my company) did me this year.  Sad
I've got patetic raise and that put me into the higher tax bracket  Sad
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:59 pm

Quoting TSV (Reply 32):
Who's being mean now? (Mean but unfortunately true)

I know. But the possibility that Qantasforever will come piling in frothing at the mouth makes it too good an opportunity to miss.  Wink
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Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:02 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 34):
But the possibility that Qantasforever will come piling in frothing at the mouth

Has he still not got that Rabies looked at ?  Wow!
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Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:20 am

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
Got rated P

Username: UTA_flyinghigh

Occupation: Rabbit farmer

Obviously the Rabbits were not happy little bunnies.

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
Methinks FY06 will (me) be spent editing pictures and reading books.

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Quoting Lindy (Reply 33):
My company suck big time thats why I spend 3-4hrs a day on A.net (while at work).

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Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:42 am

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
Raise This Year = 0! Rhaaaa!

With all these people out there getting laid off and/or getting massive pay cuts, yeah, you got a lot to bitch about.  Yeah sure

(Unless I'm missing something..)
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Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:25 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 13):
Nope, in the U.S. your entire income is taxed at the higher bracket, so even an incremental rise in gross salary can result in less net, if you're near the top end of one tax bracket, and then slightly go over the next bracket.

That's not what I'm reading. For example:

http://www.fairmark.com/begin/bracket.htm

See page 3.

Of course, just because it's on the web doesn't mean it's true.
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Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:33 am

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 38):
That's not what I'm reading. For example:

If you're a single filer and your 2005 taxable income is $20,000, then you're in the 15% tax bracket. With $40,000 of taxable income you would be in the 25% tax bracket.

In this example (from page 3), with a taxable income of $20K you'd pay 15% on $20K, with a taxable income of $40K you'd pay 25% on $40K, not 15% on the first $20K, and 25% on the next 20K.

I don't see where what I posted differed from your example.
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Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:54 am

Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 5):
in the past 5 days I have worked a total of 28 hours

And you see this as some kind of achievement? What are you, French?
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Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:05 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 17):
Or three quarters of Australia.

Yes, Banco - you hop on a plane, fly over here, and make a bid. 3/4 of Australia would about be Western Australia and South Australia combined. Yes - you go and approach their state governments with such a proposal. There's a good (albeit with a massive complex) boy.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 35):
Has he still not got that Rabies looked at ?

You see - unlike in the Misery Isles, rabies does not exist in Australia.  Smile

Now boys, why don't you pop a beer in the microwave, put your feet up (serfdom must be hard on the knee joints), avoid bathing, fly somewhere sunny and get overly sunburned, complain about everything, return to England, be miserable and then delude yourselves into a feeling of superiority. Afterall, it's what you're so good at.  Smile

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Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:29 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 39):
I don't see where what I posted differed from your example.

The table indicates that you pay a certain flat rate and then 25% or 28% or whatever on the amount over the dollar amount that was the bracket below the one you are in. Granted the flat rate goes up, but it sounds like your statement:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 13):
in the U.S. your entire income is taxed at the higher bracket

isn't entirely correct. However, as I do not know the basis for the flate rate, I cannot say for sure.
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Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting Logan22L (Reply 42):
The table indicates that you pay a certain flat rate and then 25% or 28% or whatever on the amount over the dollar amount

You're right for the most part, and I did overstate the implication of $20K vs. $40K (now you see why I rely on a computer app to do my taxes!).

What we were talking about earlier was the incremental increase into the next tax rate, where you could pay more than the stated tax bracket, and the joint-married rate. As an example, in the case they list that I've copied below, you can be in the 28% tax bracket, and pay 29.2% on the additional income.

You may find that $1,000 of added income causes your tax to go up by $292 even though you're in the 28% bracket. Your tax bracket is just an approximation of the added tax. To be more precise, we would say you have an effective marginal rate of 29.2%

Good catch though, I did make an error in stating that the tax rate goes back to the first dollar, but there are situations where it can seem to make that happen, such as the joint-married filing I mentioned before.
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Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:56 am

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
My raise ? a big fat 0

I'm sorry to read that.  Sad That's not a very appreciative act on the part of your employer, in my opinion.
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Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:55 am

Back to the original subject...I can feel you pain UTA-Flyinghigh - I also got a '0' raise for the fiscal year starting 2/1. I am paid well for my field (a litigation legal assistant), but over the years I have been put into a situation where company politics have hurt my available work hours (although I allows me time to go here and other websites). Now it is pay back time from them. It looks like time for me to move on to another employer. Oh well, my string of luck had to run out sometime.

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