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Soccer/"Football" Players: Need Your Help!

Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:35 am

I just volunteered to coach a soccer team tomorrow for a friend who usually coaches but can't make it this time. The team is 5 years old and under, and it is their first game.

My problem is this-

I don't know anything about soccer. No positions, no plays, I don't even know how many people are supposed to be on the field at the same time. I know that there is a goalie and two defenders, but how many forwards are there? Can anyone give me a crash course in the game before tomorrow?

Also, does anyone have any coaching strategies/tips that they would be willing to share?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:40 am

Quoting KSYR (Thread starter):
I just volunteered to coach a soccer team tomorrow for a friend



Quoting KSYR (Thread starter):
My problem is this-

I don't know anything about soccer.

Errrr.......WTF?

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Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:41 am

Set them up like that:
1 Goalkeeper
3 defenders (one on each wing and one in the middle)
4 midfielders
3 forward(ers?) (same style like defens players)

11 is the total players for each team.  Smile

That's how we were setup when I played in the team back in late 80s early 90s.
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:49 am

Is it training or a game?

First of all, as they are 5 and under the main point is that it's got to be fun first and foremost.

If it's training you might want to start with a fun warm-up with a ball. Perhaps man in the middle with a few around and they have to pass so that the one in the middle can't get the ball. If he does, the one who did the mistake goes in the middle instead.

Then perhaps some passing practise - just try short passes with little ones!

Then a game to finish off with (just half the group so everyone gets a game).

As seniors we used to do 30mins warm up without even a ball and then training with ball and then a play match at the end. But I wouldn't recommend training without a ball for such young kids as they can get bored quick.

If it's a game, then set up as Lindy suggests. If it's on a small pitch and 5-a-side then 1 goalie, 2 defenders and 2 forwards. Or you could try 1-2-1-1 or 1-1-1-2 or 1-1-2-1 and so forth Big grin
Just give them the advice not to all rush the ball at the same time, which kids usually do.
 
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:52 am

"I don't know anything about soccer. No positions, no plays, I don't even know how many people are supposed to be on the field at the same time. I know that there is a goalie and two defenders, but how many forwards are there? Can anyone give me a crash course in the game before tomorrow?"


Well since there kids (5 and under) i wouldn't be so concerned with specific plays, them kicking the ball and running towards the net and making the odd pass, is good enough, if I was you I would run a 3-4-3 , meaning 3 forwards, 4 midfielders and 3 defense, but if you feel you're team has the upper hand, take it to the opposing team with a 4-4-2 .

Good luck and remember, its not about winning, just about them having fun

Ps, winning is alot of fun, lolz

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Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:58 am

Um yeah I doubt they play a full field or a full 11 for Under-5s. I coached U7s before and even at that age they all tend to just gravitate towards the ball and mill around.

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Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:14 am

I would refuse a team of players less than 8 years. Ideal would be between 10 and 14 to start, and 15 to 25 to have them as a REAL team .
 
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:34 am

Quoting KSYR (Thread starter):
Also, does anyone have any coaching strategies/tips that they would be willing to share?

Every team has a bully. Get your bully to take out the opposition's playmaker early on.

The best strategy, though, is to score more goals than you concede.
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:47 am

Quoting BAxMAN (Reply 7):
Every team has a bully. Get your bully to take out the opposition's playmaker early on.

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Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:49 am

Quoting BAxMAN (Reply 7):
The best strategy, though, is to score more goals than you concede.

that's the best advice so far  Wink
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:12 am

why did you volunteer when you know nothing?

Its a bunch of five year olds, they won't know anything either.

Have them run round the pitch a few times, then maybe a penalty shoot out - but don't let the goalie get too disheartened - then practice passing and running up and down with the ball. After that, just let them have a little game amongst themselves, because thats what they'll really want to do.
 
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:14 am

Maybe you should ask SRYGuy. He is a huge Soccer Fan and you are on a first name basis with him.
 
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:21 am

5 and under? Nothing really matters at that age, its just fun. Even setting up a formation seems a tad advanced for them.

If it was me I'd just let them decide where they want to play and let them have fun. If you can think of anything to say to help them along then do so....Like keep you head over the ball if you want to keep the ball low when you hit it etc.

But I'd just let them enjoy it....

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Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:44 am

Assuming it's 11 a side. (which it could well not be)

Set them up like this....

---*--- <-- goal keeper
*-*-*-* <--defense
*-*-*-*<--midfield
--*-*-- <--forwards

or like this

---- GK
RB CB CB LB
RM CM CM LM
--- CF CF

GK= Goal Keeper
C = Centre
L = Left
R = Right
B = Back (ie, defense)
M = Midfield
F = Forward

4-4-2 to me and you.

Ok i'll list some important attributes of the various positions, so you can decided who goes where...

GK, just ask who the best keeper is.
CB, Good at tackling, strong, tall.
RB and LB, Good at tackling, agile, quick.
CM, strong, good ball control (they look tidy with the ball basically), good passers.
RM and LM, quick, good at dribbling (running with the ball), good at crossing (kicking the ball from the wing into the penalty box, so someone can header it in)
CF, simply good at finishing (scoring, shooting). One of those thingsy you've either got or you aint.

Now the basic tactics.

CBs stay back at all times.
CMs tend to stay in the middle of the pitch, passing the ball around, ochestrating the play.
LBs RBs and RMs and LM, run up and down the wings putting crosses into the box, where the CFs who stay up front all the time, shoot and header them in.

I'll be honest, at 5 these things wont be obvious and i'd doubt any of the kids will listen to you.

In which case lob them on the pitch and let them do what they want. Big grin

but i hope you've learned something.
 
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:05 am

It's 5 year olds, they won't play a full 11. They also will probably only use half of the field and the goal is the size of an indoor soccer goal if not smaller. Don't worry about it. As everyone said, they won't know anything either. They'll just all run after the ball, just give them some words of encouragement and they'll do fine.
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:12 am

Also remember about the "OFFSIDES".
Goal keeper cannot hold a minus pass.
Both feet on the ground while executing a throw etc.

This is all I can remember from my school days. I believe the minus pass rule is a relatively new one.

I think these are a bit too much for the 5 yr olds.
 
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:20 am

Quoting TRVYYZ (Reply 15):
Also remember about the "OFFSIDES".

I doubt any of these rules will be applied to under 5 year olds.
 
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:28 am

Mate - take it from me, and these other nuts are basically right, although I have a different line-up.

1 Goalkeeper
4 defenders, in a diamond shape in front of goal
3 mid fielders
3 forwards

This is not a typical European distribution, but it worked for me in HS and College.

Trust me, at that age no matter where you put them, they will flock to the ball like bees to honey. If at all possible, try to instill in them the concept of playing their position. I doubt you can at that age. Good luck.
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:01 pm

As said above, since they are 5 and under, they probably aren't playing with 11 per side, and won't have the offside rule. First, find out how many players on each team. Then pick a goalkeeper (preferrably you will have a volunteer). Tell him which goal to stand in, and that he should stop the ball from entering the net. Tell the rest of your team to kick the ball in the other goal.

They aren't going to understand much more than that. Strategy is simple: have fun.

As far as pre game warm-up, a little running, followed by them passing the ball back and forth, followed by a penalty shootout.

You will have a blast watching them all swarm the ball like a bunch of bees, while occasionally tripping over themselves and eachother. Oh, don't forget the orange wedges.
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:07 pm

Quoting David L (Reply 8):
And take enough cigarettes for everyone.

You learn that at the Hibs youth academy?  Smile

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Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:01 pm

Just keep pumping the long ball in to the box, making sure your target man has good elbows  Wink
And get your offside trap sorted out.
This seems to work for most premiership teams, so you should be quids in.

Another thing , make sure that you are sorted for a ten percent cut of all transfer fees(both incoming and out going) in cash, in a brown envelope, to be paid at midnight at a service station on the M6

That is all you need to know about soccer. Smile
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:32 pm

I think that for this age group the most important thing is for them to have fun.

Therefore, I would show them how to properly kick each other in the groin and bite each other's earlobes.

These skills will put them on the first and most important step of being a professional SOCCER player. Wink
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:39 pm

Quoting FUMANCHEWD (Reply 21):
Therefore, I would show them how to properly kick each other in the groin and bite each other's earlobes.

Indeed, but it is also essential that they know how to take a dive, roll around on the ground in complete agony whilst their teammates harrang the ref and then jump up fit as a fiddle to take the free kick.
However ,age 5 is too young to bring up the subject of roasting!!!
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:57 pm

Quoting YOWza (Reply 19):
You learn that at the Hibs youth academy?

Any Scottish youth academy. I'd also like to dissociate myself from any links to Hibs.  Smile

Quoting Trident3 (Reply 22):
Indeed, but it is also essential that they know how to take a dive, roll around on the ground in complete agony whilst their teammates harrang the ref and then jump up fit as a fiddle to take the free kick.

Something we're just beginning to get the hang of in the UK. Although there was something to be said for the Jack Charltons and Richard Goughs, etc., who took the whatsit by just getting up and walking away after being clattered.  Smile
 
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Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:07 am

5 and under?? No matter what you say or plan they will all run after the ball in a big crowd  Smile
 
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Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:51 pm

Thanks for the advice everyone. The game went off well, although the team I was coaching lost by 7 points. We seemed to have a problem with kicking the ball towards our own goal rather than towards our opponent's goal.

Regardless, it was a good time and I have to thank you all once again for the tips, sarcastic and serious.  Wink
 
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Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:04 pm

Quoting KSYR (Reply 25):
although the team I was coaching lost by 7 points.

How many "points" do you get for a goal over there?  Smile
 
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Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:06 pm

Sorry, my mistake. They scored 7 goals, we scored 0. Not too bad for a first game though, right?  Smile
 
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Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:38 pm

Quoting KSYR (Reply 27):
Sorry, my mistake. They scored 7 goals, we scored 0. Not too bad for a first game though, right?

Errrrrr...... Big grin

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Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:33 am

I was about to ask how was the game  Smile Now I don't have to  Smile

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