Dougloid
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AVG Si! Norton No!

Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:03 pm

I was able to get a good solid run on my test mule today after stripping out all the Norton antivirus archives. Prior to that, if I left it unattended it was likely to crash after fifteen minutes or so, or else something huge and crazy was running in the background that was as bad as a full on crash.

FYI, my test mule is an IBM Aptiva that now runs an AMD Athlon 833 mhz, has had 384 mb of memory installed and is now running a 120gb hard drive salvaged out of a dead TiVO DVD recorder. The operating system is W98SE and it's been buggy all along, but I blamed that on Microsoft-perhaps unfairly.

I have the test mule on a network for use as a file cabinet, and it is also something of a hobby to see how much tinkering I can do on the cheap-I was able to obtain the 384 mb of memory for under $15, used of course but Microsoft gives out a nifty memory module checker program-free, or course.

After installing the AVG-Free, I can boot this computer up and let it sit as long as I care to, knowing that it'll be stable and solid whenever I come back. Even the Linksys wireless monitor software is much happier knowing that Norton has been completely and totally evicted.
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:38 pm

GOOD MOVE...I keep AVG on my USB flash drive to scan other people's machines also...

But for a Business type Server/Client enviroment though, I would recommend a NON-FREE versions of Antivirus software....Like Symantec's AV Corporate Edition or Norton Corp Edition...because beleive it or not it does take up less resources than the HOME version of Norton AV....ANd its less bloated too...Too bad its 550$ for a minimum of 10 licenses....Thats the minimum...But for a business its great....

For Home: the following are really good...

AVG
Kapersky
NOD32
 
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:48 pm

When I happened to get a virus on my computer by doing something REALLY stupid I was advised by my housemate web nerds that AVG was the way to go. The free version was a good stop gap until I got into town and bought AVG Pro which was great  thumbsup  and didn't grind my machine down to a halt either!
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:50 pm

Norton AntiVirus is the first thing I took care of on my mother's new notebook which arrived yesterday... guess what, the uninstall didn't work properly and still left visible traces in that Windows software list. So I tried to re-install it to then attempt a clean uninstall. Sure enough, installing it didn't work either. So I uninstalled what I could and deleted the rest (files, folders and registry keys) manually.  banghead  AntiVir all the way!
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:08 pm

Norton Sucks! It is AWFUL. It slows even the fastest machines to a halt.

I'm happy running Kaspersky Anti-Virus...  Smile
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:23 am

Quoting Dougloid (Thread starter):
AVG Si! Norton No!

 checkmark  yes 

I've been telling people this for years. Norton has so much crap dedicated to the user interface that it doesn't even do the job its supposed to half of the time. AVG does exactly what it needs to do without hogging up all your memory.

Best of all, its free!
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:33 am

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 4):
Norton Sucks! It is AWFUL.

I respectfully disagree. Norton is a great product and Symantec a very responsible corporation.

I'm definitely "Nortonian".
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:39 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 6):
I respectfully disagree. Norton is a great product and Symantec a very responsible corporation.

I would agree with that statement. However, you cannot argue that NAV is a resource hog.

Personally, I can't say enough good things about Trend Micro's PC-cillin.

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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:40 pm

Like I said, The Norton or Symantec's Corporate Edition is great for the Server/Client enviroment for companies...But Norton Home edition sucks...
 
ABfemme
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:00 pm

Hey guys - is AVG part of Panda anti-virus ?

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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:18 pm

Norton is bloatware.
I also like AVG Free. But my favorite is NOD32 (commercial).
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:28 pm

Quoting ABfemme (Reply 9):
Hey guys - is AVG part of Panda anti-virus ?

No, but apparently all the others are mixing up two different AV products as well.

There is Grisoft's AVG http://www.grisoft.de and then there is a free software called AntiVir http://www.free-av.de/.
Both makes are German which may have added to the confusion that AntiVir's watchdog in your system tray is called AntiVir Guard - or AVG for short.
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ABfemme
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:58 pm

Hi gang

We have the Grisoft AVG free version installed on our Comp - my question is, is there any need to buy the AVG Pro ?

Will the free version keep updating itself with new virus' etc

(sorry I am not very computer literate !)

Claire
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:26 pm

ABfemme, I didn't know there was a free version of AVG. Maybe it's just a demo that will expire after 30 days? Free AV is free for private use and its virus definition table is updated daily, often twice a day.
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:55 pm

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 13):
Free AV is free for private use and its virus definition table is updated daily, often twice a day.

However the free version of AntiVir doesn't include a mail scanner; IIRC.
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:04 pm

Quoting ABfemme (Reply 12):
We have the Grisoft AVG free version installed on our Comp - my question is, is there any need to buy the AVG Pro ?

Will the free version keep updating itself with new virus' etc

I wouldn't bother with AVG Pro. I've had the AVG free version for nearly a year now and each day at 8:30AM it updates itself without fail.  Smile
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ABfemme
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting Nordair (Reply 15):
I wouldn't bother with AVG Pro. I've had the AVG free version for nearly a year now and each day at 8:30AM it updates itself without fail.

Cheers Nordair

I'll wait and see what happens

Claire
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RE: AVG Si! Norton No!

Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:25 am

I think the test is in the doing.

If there is anything one can do to make W98SE reasonably stable, you've really done something. In my case, there is a very short list of programs installed on the IBM, and very little in the way of files, it should have been relatively tame.

However, it always had this tendency to crash if left unattended or have something huge and terrifying running in the background that more or less was about as bad as a full on crash.

I thought perhaps it had something to do with my bargain basement hardware upgrades or my BIOS update-although I WAS smart enough to get the new processor in a sealed box, everything else was salvaged or dirt cheap.

I had pretty much narrowed it down to something to do with Norton as it worked a lot better when I manually closed some items that were associated with Norton. The only two other potential sources of trouble were Nero which came with my CD/RW drive and the Linksys monitoring stuff-both of which required a bit of tinkering to get them to live happily in the same house.

In any event, everything seems to be working nicely.
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