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What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:52 am

Hi there

In Latin america there is a big culture around music. Not only with each country's folk music but also Pop, Rock etc. There are such excellent groups overthere( Los Fabulosos cadillacs...yay they rule, Soda Estereo, CafetaCuba, mana, etc ) and many many great singers (Silvion Rodriguez, Andres Calamaro, vicentico, Fito Paez, Pablo milanes, only to name a few) but very few have actually become famous in non spanish speaking countries.... Examples are Ricky Martin, Shakira and more recentléy Juanes.....
With Juanes as an exception its too bad to see that the only Latino Music that's exported is far far from the best that we can have in Latin America.(and now is all this VERY BIG JUNK Reggaeton)

Look Ricky Martin, had to sing in english and totally change his style(now its more RnB). Shakira isn't the one singer I used to like. She dyed her hair blonde to conquer a larger public, she started to sing in english, she sang many less songs with her guitar.

The only one singer I like that became really famous outside a spanish speaking country is Juanes. He has become famous with his pop/rock with Latino and Colombian music influence alwayshaving his guitar with him. And most important ,he's become famous singing ONLY IN SPANISH(and says he intends to leave things as they are) !I have great respect for him unlike the others that have had to change their image to become more famous. Juanes has known how to remain himself.

And you fellow A.netters, what do you think of those Latin American stars that have become famous outside of spanish speaking countries ?


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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:00 am

I only know Shakira, Ricky Martin, Enrique Iglesias and who else? Gloria Estefan and Marc Anthony by name and a couple songs. I hate all of them except Shakira. Infact I dont like any kind of Reggeaton/RnB etc so I have no interest in it, infact I dont like Latin music to begin with. I dont relate to it neither can I understand it.

Ive never heard of Juanes so cant comment on him.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:02 am

Ricky Martin is hot.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:51 pm

Some of Shakira's spanish songs are great. La Tortura (o m g that woman can move!) and "No" are my favorites of hers. I dont like any of her english songs as I find them too "popish" and have no soul to them.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:36 pm

Can't stand it/them.

You ask, I answer.  Smile

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:04 pm

Ricky Martin is very cute. He could put the 'b' in my bounce.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:54 am

I love latin american music, my favourite being reggaeton. I am partial to music with a distinct catchy rythym cause I love to dance. I hate when i go to a party and they play alternative or maybe endless electronica, though a little of that isn't too bad.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:01 am

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 1):
its too bad to see that the only Latino Music that's exported is far far from the best that we can have in Latin America.(and

What do you mean? Like the following?...

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 1):
I only know Shakira, Ricky Martin, Enrique Iglesias and who else? Gloria Estefan and Marc Anthony by name and a couple songs



Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2):
Ricky Martin is hot



Quoting Jetset25j (Reply 3):
Some of Shakira's spanish songs are great.



Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 5):
Ricky Martin is very cute. He could put the 'b' in my bounce

And this is all one needs to know about this topic.

!  yuck   whiteflag   whiteflag 

To give North American and European members here an idea of how the list of 'stars' above that are known in Europe and North America sounds, read the following:

"...From Europe and the USA I know of Vanilla-Ice, Barry Manilow, Spice Girls, Aqua, Air Supply, Cher, Rick Astley, Fabian, Simple Plan, William Hung, William Shatner, Paula Abdul... and Paula Abdul is cute..."

Now everyone should understand.

I'm not making fun of you guys, but let's just say that what the big corporations have told you constitutes the best of 'latin' music, is beyond putrid...

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
Los Fabulosos cadillacs...yay they rule, Soda Estereo, CafetaCuba, mana, etc ) and many many great singers (Silvion Rodriguez, Andres Calamaro, vicentico, Fito Paez,

Well everyone agrees that Argentina's is strongest in the modern rock, electronic, and new folk scene. So I'm not surprised most people like Fito Paez, Soda, Fab Cads, Andres, etc. Specially if you grew up as a teen in the 80s, when Argentine rock took over Latin American radio.

There are many really good groups now too (La Portuaria, Pez, Babasonicos, Indio Solari, Divididos). Of course like everywhere else, people find the music they group up with as the best. A lot of people say 70s Argentine rock was even better than the 80s stuff everyone knows about.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:09 am

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
And you fellow A.netters, what do you think of those Latin American stars that have become famous outside of spanish speaking countries ?

Well, you seem to have forgotten that Brazil is a part of Latin America, even though we don't speak spanish... And brazilian music is FAR more recognized and known in the rest of the world.

From Bossa Nova (Joao Gilberto, Astrud Gilberto, Nara Leao) to Samba (countless... Beth Carvalho, Alcione) to pop music old and new (Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil, Marina) to heavy metal (Sepultura) to Lounge (Brazilian lounge, chill Brazil) I am fairly confident that Brazilian music (latin), is well represented.

At least it drives foreigners crazy when they visit the country...

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:38 am

Quoting Flyingbabydoc (Reply 8):

Yes, but usually Brazilian music is taken separately, because it is so wide ranging. Is actually a compliment.

Even as the music in most of South America is quite different between areas, but most specially between the Southern Cone and the rest of the region, many still just group it together.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:52 am

Quoting Derico (Reply 9):
Yes, but usually Brazilian music is taken separately, because it is so wide ranging. Is actually a compliment.

Well, thank you for that compliment. I just wanted to make a point that Brazil is still a part of Latin America - even though many "hermanos" think otherwise.

Obviously that is not your case. Thanks for that.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:14 am

Quoting Derico (Reply 7):
the best of 'latin' music

Oh, my bad. However, I'm totally uninterested in Latin music - that is not to say that I think it is stupid, worthless or whatever. I just haven't listened to enough Latin music to form an opinion. It is probably easier to cultivate a taste for Latin music when in Latin America. My three weeks in Mexico and Guatamala in 1998, though extremely enjoyable, don't really count for much as a 'Latin music experience'.

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
And you fellow A.netters, what do you think of those Latin American stars that have become famous outside of spanish speaking countries ?

To this question I addressed my answer.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:40 am

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 5):
Ricky Martin is very cute. He could put the 'b' in my bounce.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:43 am

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 12):

Well, each to his own.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:46 am

I'm a big fan of Jorge Drexler (first spanish song to win an Oscar--only the assholes wouldn't him sing there).


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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:51 am

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 11):
Oh, my bad. However, I'm totally uninterested in Latin music - that is not to say that I think it is stupid, worthless or whatever.

No problem really! Considering what music FM and video channels make North Americans and Europeans listen to, I'm not surprise people would have no interest whatsoever, and worthless. hehe.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:52 am

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 1):
Enrique Iglesias

 yuck  You call that music? Eww...

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
There are such excellent groups overthere( Los Fabulosos cadillacs...yay they rule, Soda Estereo, CafetaCuba, mana, etc ) and many many great singers (Silvion Rodriguez, Andres Calamaro, vicentico, Fito Paez, Pablo milanes, only to name a few)

Now this is real LatAm music!

Quoting Derico (Reply 7):
There are many really good groups now too (La Portuaria, Pez, Babasonicos, Indio Solari, Divididos).

Indeed, music from Argentina is great! We have a couple of crazy Argentinos hosting a radio show here, and they're always bringing all sorts of new music from their homeland.

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
Shakira isn't the one singer I used to like.

Well... Shakira became famous here since her "Pies Descalzos" CD. True, most of her songs at that time were girly pop, but hey, I was only 12!  Silly While I don't like the change of looks she has now, I still enjoy her music.

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
The only one singer I like that became really famous outside a spanish speaking country is Juanes. He has become famous with his pop/rock with Latino and Colombian music influence alwayshaving his guitar with him. And most important ,he's become famous singing ONLY IN SPANISH(and says he intends to leave things as they are) !I have great respect for him unlike the others that have had to change their image to become more famous. Juanes has known how to remain himself.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:11 am

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
And most important ,he's become famous singing ONLY IN SPANISH(and says he intends to leave things as they are)

Exactly!! This is what I have been saying for years now. I respect so much more those singers that sing in Spanish and don't just go off singing in English to make more money. If you can speak English well, then of course, do so.
But way too many can't even pronounce it right and go to record an english album. I lose some respect for them there.

This is why I love Argentine rock so much. It has never sold out, and those groups that became big did so singing in Spanish. For example, I have no doubts that if a group like Soda Stereo had sung in English, their musical, lyrical, and sense of evolution in their music would have made them a great band in that language.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:28 am

Quoting Derico (Reply 15):
Considering what music FM and video channels make North Americans and Europeans listen to, I'm not surprise people would have no interest whatsoever, and worthless. hehe

Luckily nobody is in a position to force me to listen to anything.

There is a blooming Latin American culture here in this country - not in the least because the wife of the Crown Prince of the Netherlands, Princess Máxima, hails from Argentina. There are salsa, merengue and Latin jazz evenings at different venues here in The Hague several times a week. There are significant numbers of people of Latin American origin living here in The Hague and Rotterdam. And that is excluding the hundreds of thousands of people from Suriname and the Dutch Antilles. If I wish, I can listen to Latin American music twenty-four hours a day on local radio stations. Pulsar is the name of one, I believe.

Rest assured, it is not all pre-packaged squeaky-clean Ricky Martin and Jennifer Lopez here. It is just a genre music I choose not to listen to.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:42 am

I'm a hopeless romantic so for me Luis Miguel is the best  goodvibes 

He's good looking  drool  (ask Mariah Carey) and his boleros really put me in the mood...


I used to be a fan of Julio Iglesias who although not from Latin America was the first major singer to be successful with Spanish lyrics. Then I learned to speak Spanish (in Venezuela) and couldn't stand his mainland accent anymore.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:43 am

Only one word.....  yummy 

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:06 am

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 19):
I'm a hopeless romantic so for me Luis Miguel is the best

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:09 am

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 18):
There is a blooming Latin American culture here in this country - not in the least because the wife of the Crown Prince of the Netherlands, Princess Máxima, hails from Argentina. There are salsa, merengue and Latin jazz evenings at different venues here in The Hague several times a week.

LOL true, but salsa, merengue and Latin Jazz are not the most popular music forms in Argentina, nor are they Argentine in origin.  Wink
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:13 am

 banghead  Never mind

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:34 am

Quoting Derico (Reply 7):
"...From Europe and the USA I know of Vanilla-Ice, Barry Manilow, Spice Girls, Aqua, Air Supply, Cher, Rick Astley, Fabian, Simple Plan, William Hung, William Shatner, Paula Abdul... and Paula Abdul is cute..."

Whos Fabian? Except maybe 2 people, all of those are Americans, half of them from the early 90s and before..

I hear plenty of homegrown latin music, especially now living in Florida and going to clubs and beachside here.

Latin music to me is like metal, I cant RELATE to it, I dont LIKE it and it sounds ANNOYING to me. Period.

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 16):
You call that music? Eww...

I just said in the same post that I hate it, do you comprehend English?

Quoting Derico (Reply 15):
No problem really! Considering what music FM and video channels make North Americans and Europeans listen to, I'm not surprise people would have no interest whatsoever, and worthless. hehe.

I listen to Sirius satellite radio (Area 33) non-stop Trance/Euro commercial free that I can safely say only .1% of America heard of. On the other side when I am in Poland the mainstream radio stations play Kasia Kowalska, Budka Suflera or Mezo i Tabb...that has NOTHING to do with Hollywood or mainstream crap. Face it, Most of you like Latin music because of your roots...thats just how it is.
 
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:54 am

Quoting Flyingbabydoc (Reply 10):
Well, thank you for that compliment. I just wanted to make a point that Brazil is still a part of Latin America - even though many "hermanos" think otherwise.

Obviously that is not your case. Thanks for that.

Alex

I knowBrazil is part of Latin America...however in Europe when people refer to Latino music its 99.9% referring to music in Spanish
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:56 am

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 16):
Now this is real LatAm music!



Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 16):

Indeed, music from Argentina is great! We have a couple of crazy Argentinos hosting a radio show here, and they're always bringing all sorts of new music from their homeland.



Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 16):

checkmark Agree 100%!

Carmen...you have got really really really good musical taste!

Quoting Derico (Reply 17):
This is why I love Argentine rock so much. It has never sold out, and those groups that became big did so singing in Spanish. For example, I have no doubts that if a group like Soda Stereo had sung in English, their musical, lyrical, and sense of evolution in their music would have made them a great band in that language.

El rock argentino es el mejor que hay!!!!!!

Quoting Derico (Reply 22):
Latin Jazz

¨Btw I'm a fan of Irakere
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:37 am

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 24):
I just said in the same post that I hate it, do you comprehend English?

Let me see... English courses from preschool to senior high, plus an English-Spanish translation degree... yeah, I think I do comprehend English.  Wink

Actually I meant my comment as a joke. I know you dislike Enrique Iglesias, and so do I; I was thinking of my times back in junior high, when my classmates would go wild just at the mention of his name... *shudder*

I didn't mean to offend you; my apologies if it was understood otherwise.

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 26):
Carmen...you have got really really really good musical taste!

Gracias  Smile

While on the subject of music, we do have great bands here in Guatemala, mainly pop, rock, and even some ska. I could write pages and pages about the rock chapín: Viento En Contra, Malacates... The thing is that none of them are known internationally. I can only think of two Guatemalan exports:

* Alux Nahual. Ok, you may have never heard of them, but from what I know they were highly popular in all of Central America. There must be a reason why they’re known as “the fathers of rock in Central America”, don’t you think? Thoughtful lyrics, an impressive instrumentation... Too bad they split up.  Sad What I find interesting is the diversity of their followers: from young teens starting their garage bands, to a mature audience in their 30’s and 40’s (in fact, my father is a great fan of them, he even owns their first LP’s!) Find out more at http://www.aluxnahual.com/

* Ricardo Arjona... man, need I say more? ( http://www.arjona.com/ )

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Star

Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:30 pm

Oh I forgot to mention one...whilst not Latino he however sings in spanish ....Manu Chao.... his concert was one of the most amazing I've seen in my life

P.S Yesterday Juanes concert in Geneva was amazing !

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:45 pm

Quoting Flyingbabydoc (Reply 8):
heavy metal (Sepultura)

You've conveniently forgotten that Sepultura sang in English. There's no way in hell their fanbase would be what it was in their heyday if they sang in Portuguese.

As for LA music, I never really cared much for it outside of the Brazilian bossa nova greats' old hits. Paralamas do Sucesso was huge back in my day, so I have a soft spot for them. It was sad to see Herbert Vianna reduced to what he is today.

What U.S. radio considers "Latin" is a joke. It's only latin because the singers have Hispanic-sounding names. Shakira isn't Latin. She just dyed her hair blonde, shook her ass on MTV and she was on her way to a big paycheck without ever having to sound slightly latin.
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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:03 pm

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 27):
Let me see... English courses from preschool to senior high, plus an English-Spanish translation degree... yeah, I think I do comprehend English.

Then why are you accusing me of calling that music when I just said I dislike Latin music to begin with mate.

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:50 am

Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter):
CafetaCuba,

It is Cafe Tacuba. The band took the name from a Cafe located a few blocks away from Mexico City's famous Zocalo.

Quoting Flyingbabydoc (Reply 8):
And brazilian music is FAR more recognized and known in the rest of the worl

Hmm yeah right...  sarcastic 

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Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:12 am

I must say, I recently bought "Gilles Peterson in Brazil" and think it's a really good CD.
My favourite off it is probably "Wilson Simongl - Nem vem que nao tem"

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RE: What Do You Think Of Latin American Music Stars?

Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:34 am

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 24):
Face it, Most of you like Latin music because of your roots...thats just how it is.

Wow, this is one of the most arrogant, ethno-ignorant things I have ever heard! 'That's just how it is'... 'face it'... You think you know it all huh?

Congrats, dude. you just won a spot in the Hall of Brains... not.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 24):
Whos Fabian? Except maybe 2 people, all of those are Americans, half of them from the early 90s and before..

I hear plenty of homegrown latin music, especially now living in Florida and going to clubs and beachside here.

You may listen to latin music people think of as latin, but some of us here are not talking about that kind of music exclusively. Since you don't understand what we are talking about, you maybe should drop your know-it-all attitude because it really is working against you.

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 16):
yay they rule, Soda Estereo

The new Gustavo Cerati album is coming out in April, "Ahi Vamos". The record label is desperately trying to keep the album in the utmost secrecy... The album is being produced by "Tweety Gonzalez", who has worked with Lou Reed, David Bowie, Phillip Glass, etc.

But when it was leaked that Richard Coleman would be a virtual 'co-artist', a lot of rumours started floating around Argentina: that Cerati was leaving (at least for a time) his electronica/slow trance era that grouped him with Hernan Cattaneo/Paul Oakenfold, and that he was returning to his Soda Stereo Rock era. There were even rumours that around LatAm Soda Stereo itself was returning.

That seems unlikely now, but Cerati has said that this next album is a return to the heavy guitars that marked the change of Argentine rock from the lush to experimental late 80s, to the crunching guitar early 90s. Now that Richard Coleman is working with him, as well as Fernando Samalea, it is said that the sound of the new album might be something like the early 80s cult band Friccion, which was a band Cerati was in prior to Soda Stereo exploding around the world. Who is Richard Coleman? He also was in the original Soda line-up and helped compose songs as "Azulado" and "DobleVida", and was member of the early 90s alt-rock band 7 Delfines.

As for the group Friccion, well they were a cult band in the early 80s indie 'subway' (under), their sound is somewhat dark, experimental, even thrashy... Well, here is the article. But yeah, this new album is creating a lot of buzz!

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/EdicionIm...pectaculos/nota.asp?nota_id=789982
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