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Gerry Adams Detained

Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:35 pm

Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams was detained at a Washington DC airport after celebrating St Patrick's Day with George W. Bush. Apparently his name was on a terror watch list and he was subject to a "thorough screening" that caused him to miss his flight.
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:44 pm

Yes, well, there is that whole NORAID thing.
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:44 pm

hahaha its true not all terrorists are middle eastern in origin
 
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:11 pm

Not surprised at all. Gerry Adams has links the IRA and the Provisional IRA. The latter is still considered as a terrorist organisation by the Ireland, the UK and the US.
 
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:15 pm

Quoting Superhub (Reply 3):
Gerry Adams has links the IRA and the Provisional IRA

I'm no expert but I think he's got more than just links to those groups.
 
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:19 pm

has ian paisley made a trip to the usa??????he is more of a terrorist than gerry....
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:22 pm

Quoting Andz (Thread starter):
Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams was detained at a Washington DC airport after celebrating St Patrick's Day with George W. Bush.

What an irony... celebrated St Pat's day with W. and not detained there at the celebration?
 
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:35 pm

How did he get into the US if he is on a terror watch list?
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:38 pm

Quoting Andz (Reply 7):
How did he get into the US if he is on a terror watch list?

That's the beauty of a complicated beaurocracy. Plan a 3 day trip, that way when you arrive in the U.S. it takes that long for them to figure out that you're you and you did a no-no. You leave after they start looking for you.

Oh yeah and hopefully you don't happen to be a 3 year old with the name Gerald Addams otherwise you're screwed.
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:44 pm

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 5):
has ian paisley made a trip to the usa??????he is more of a terrorist than gerry....

Tell you what.....live through a terrorist war and wanton murder campaign for 30 years, then come and talk to me about your 'expert knowledge'.
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:52 pm

Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams was detained at a Washington DC airport after celebrating St Patrick's Day with George W. Bush. Apparently his name was on a terror watch list and he was subject to a "thorough screening" that caused him to miss his flight

Does this mean that you get to shake hands with GWB even if you are on a terrorist watch list. Something seems to have gone astray with the TSA or with White House Security.
 
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:24 pm

Well said AirNZ.. and the following on the mainland
Aldershot
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Brighton
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:03 am

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 10):
Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams was detained at a Washington DC airport after celebrating St Patrick's Day with George W. Bush. Apparently his name was on a terror watch list and he was subject to a "thorough screening" that caused him to miss his flight

Does this mean that you get to shake hands with GWB even if you are on a terrorist watch list. Something seems to have gone astray with the TSA or with White House Security.

Don't forget that that "arch-fiend" Senator Teddy Kennedy was also on the TSA terrorist watch list. Yes, it seems strange that Gerry was stopped AFTER he visited with Dubya.

As for Dubya, he should remember that there are 40 million Irish in America, and we vote. ERIN GO BRAGH!
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:58 am

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 9):
Tell you what.....live through a terrorist war and wanton murder campaign for 30 years, then come and talk to me about your 'expert knowledge'.

simmer down there AIRNZ,
my only question was has ian paisley made the trip to the usa.....the terrorist thing is a personal opinion...NOT a expert analysis.....
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:16 am

And Warrington.

I dont want to be provacative, but this forum is a little political.

I saw Manchester when it happened in my own eyes, later I visited Northern Ireland and travelled the South, first I thought All Irish should be wiped out. Later I thought the problems in Belfast were nothing compared to the problems Ive seen in Salford, Manchester.. just publicised differently.
Finally having seen the South my conclusion Is the IRA are the ones who are out there.. everyone else are just living their lives and I think the irish are great people.

After 5 years in the US I found it is third or fourth generation descendants who shout the loudest but dont even know where Ireland is on the map.
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:17 am

Is it still true that US Military flights from Germany to the US which overfly Northern Ireland qualify for a medal for flying over a combat zone ?
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:12 am

uadc8,

Why don't you check the facts out before posting rubbish about a country you have probably never visited ?

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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:46 am

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 5):
has ian paisley made a trip to the usa??????he is more of a terrorist than gerry....

Uadc8contrail

There's no doubt of Gerry Adams' links to terrorist organisations like the IRA, but what evidence do you have of Ian Paisley's links to terrorist organisations?

Just back up your "personal opinion" with some facts.
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:52 am

Don't you just love the US. They've detained a guy with "terrorist links" as he attempts to leave the country!

Now where's the sense in that?; surely he should have been detained as he entered the country!

Makes you want to laugh at the incompetence!

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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:00 am

Would you give the guy a break. Ian Paisley might not be linked to terrorist organisations but he's the reason for the mess in the north not Gerry Adams. I'm not going to go all political. Just read whats going on in the north at the moment. Finally I think this topic should be in non-av.
 
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:15 am

Apart from the mention of "Washington DC airport" in the original post, I don't see what any of the replies have to do with civil aviation.

I have contacted the forum moderators and suggested deletion of this entire topic.

Flame me if you wish.

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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:38 am

They've gone crazy... Sinn Fein?? come on...
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:02 am

Quoting BDKLEZ (Reply 18):
Don't you just love the US. They've detained a guy with "terrorist links" as he attempts to leave the country!

Actually, he was boarding a domestic flight from DCA to BUF.

Since nobody bothered to put a link to any sort of an article:

Gerry Adams delayed in D.C. airport

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 17):
There's no doubt of Gerry Adams' links to terrorist organisations like the IRA, but what evidence do you have of Ian Paisley's links to terrorist organisations?

In 1966 he helped to set up the Ulster Constitution Defence Committee (UCDC) and the paramilitary Ulster Protestant Volunteers (UPV). The UPV commenced a bombing campaign in order to destabilise O'Neill's government. This group later amalgamated with the Ulster Volunteer Force, with whom it had an overlapping membership.

A Loyalist paramilitary-style organisation was formed on 10 November 1986 by Ian Paisley, then leader of the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP), Peter Robinson of the DUP, and Ivan Foster. The initial aim of Ulster Resistance was to bring an end to the Anglo-Irish Agreement. Following a rally in the Ulster Hall in Belfast, other rallies were held in towns across Northern Ireland. The group was organised in nine 'battalions' and members wore a red beret. In November 1988 there was an arms find in County Armagh and the subsequent arrest of a former DUP election candidate brought accusations of links between DUP politicians and armed paramilitary groups. The DUP claimed that party links with the organisation had ended in 1987. Two members of Ulster Resistance were arrested in April 1987 in Paris along with a South African diplomat. The weapons imported from South Africa were divided between the UDA, the UVF and Ulster Resistance. The arms consisted of 200 AK47 assault rifles, 90 Browning pistols, 500 fragmentation grenades, 30,000 rounds of ammunition and 12 RPG 7 rocket launchers.
 
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:05 am

Does that mean that Bush is guilty of harbouring terrorists? If so, I think the White House can expect a visit from some B52's. Isn't that what they do to everyone who harbours terrorists?
 
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:06 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 22):
Actually, he was boarding a domestic flight from DCA to BUF.

Fair enough, and thanks for the correction, however he'd already been allowed entry to the US so my point remains valid.
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:18 am

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 9):
Tell you what.....live through a terrorist war and wanton murder campaign for 30 years, then come and talk to me about your 'expert knowledge'.

Not forgetting the fact that the IRA was largely funded by generous Americans supporting the valliant Irish freedom fighters.

War on terror(tm)? sarcastic 
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RE: Gerry Adams Detained

Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:18 pm

This just sums up the double standards of the Bush administration.

1) He should never have been issued with a visa.

2) If issuing a visa was an oversight then he should have been prevented from boarding the aircraft.

3) If allowing him to board the aircraft was an oversight, then they should have realized before the aircraft reached US soil, and returned to it's departure point.

I guess this is what happens when you have USCIS agents posted in a foreign country.

I never really cared much about this war "apart from thinking how stupid it was" until it hit close to home (Warrington) I am not in any way religious, but I do believe that someone was watching over me that day, and if they were'nt I wouldn't be here now.

Then came Manchester, and if I hadn't been on vacation in DC that day, I could have been working. Thanks to the professionalism of Greater Manchester Police 20 or so of my colleagues were evacuated from the building behind where the bomb exploded.

These 2 incidents made me realize what a bunch of a**holes the IRA were.

What kind of people detonate a bomb in a busy shopping street, the day before Mother's Day when they know that there are going to be kids out there shopping for a gift.

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