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Mercedes E-Class Panorama Roof -- Why So Few?

Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:43 am

Anyone own a 2003 or newer Merc E-Class and decided against panorama roof? I have only seen ONE panorama roof E320/350/500 in NYC in the last few years and wonder if there is a reason (besides price of option/availability)?

Is the safety an issue or have they been known to leak? Some of the newer E-class Benzes have a lot of mech issues so wondering if panorama roof is one.

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Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:05 am

Because a BMW is better....
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:07 am

Jaguars are better  Smile
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:09 am

Oh Andz, your answer comes as no surprise!

20 years ago I would've argued but these days you speak the truth! I'd get a 3-series over an E-class even if it is smaller -- it's so much tighter!
 
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:18 am

Quoting Christa (Reply 2):
Jaguars are better Smile

Too bad Jaguar is now a Ford product...
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:48 am

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 4):
Too bad Jaguar is now a Ford product...

Does that mean a Cadillac is a Chevy? Does that mean a Lexus is a Toyota? Does that mean a Buggatti is just a VW? Jags have come a long way after Ford injected money into them, but they are far and away nicer products than anything Ford has ever come up with.
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:39 am

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 5):
Jags have come a long way after Ford injected money into them, but they are far and away nicer products than anything Ford has ever come up with.

Don't get me wrong, Jaguars are very nice cars. I just find it a shame that Ford took them over. I don't know the reason why it happened, but I guess if Jaguar was having money problems, then Ford taking them over was better than having no Jaguar at all.
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:45 am

It's true that Jaguar has done well under Ford, as has Volvo. However, Saab is not doing too hot under GM and Mercedes has gone down after taking on Chrysler. But Chrysler is much better.

Where does that leave us? Oh, right. In the BMW.
 
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:45 pm

Quoting LH455 (Reply 7):
In the BMW.

Which has Rolls-Royce (if only I had one)  Smile

If only They bring back the Triumph name (BMW has the rights to Triumph)
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RE: Mercedes E-Class Panorama Roof -- Why So Few?

Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:41 pm

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 5):

Does that mean a Cadillac is a Chevy? Does that mean a Lexus is a Toyota? Does that mean a Buggatti is just a VW?

or Maybach is a mercedes.

I have seen a couple of those E-classes with panoramic roof here, but must e-classes in denmark are working as taxis.
 
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:52 pm

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 9):
e-classes in denmark are working as taxis.

I wish we could get them outfitted like that in the U.S. -- the black vinyl seats, manual trans, heavy-duty 2-litre diesel engine -- BEST
 
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:25 pm

Quoting LH455 (Reply 10):
I wish we could get them outfitted like that in the U.S. -- the black vinyl seats, manual trans, heavy-duty 2-litre diesel engine -- BEST

yeah! Mercedes here have focused on making taxi drivers drive mercedes. (mostly e-classes) They also last for a long time, and when you drive like 300.000 kilometers in just a couple of years, it is actually cheaper than buying a cheaper car to begin with, because it doesn't need to be serviced as often as many other cars.
 
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RE: Mercedes E-Class Panorama Roof -- Why So Few?

Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:05 pm

Quoting LH455 (Thread starter):
Anyone own a 2003 or newer Merc E-Class and decided against panorama roof? I have only seen ONE panorama roof E320/350/500 in NYC in the last few years and wonder if there is a reason (besides price of option/availability)?

It just have to do with local market demographics. I've seen a good number in South Florida. I wouldn't be surprised if sunbelt buyers are more apt to spend more money on a more expensive sunroof, considering they will use it more.
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RE: Mercedes E-Class Panorama Roof -- Why So Few?

Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:25 pm

Quoting LH455 (Thread starter):
Anyone own a 2003 or newer Merc E-Class and decided against panorama roof? I have only seen ONE panorama roof E320/350/500 in NYC in the last few years and wonder if there is a reason (besides price of option/availability)?

Is the safety an issue or have they been known to leak? Some of the newer E-class Benzes have a lot of mech issues so wondering if panorama roof is one.

We bought our E240 in late 2004, and we decided against it because:
-it was the 2004 model, and the 2005 panorama had not arrived yet, nor would it for quite some time.
-More expensive than the 2005 Avantgarde version despite it being the previous year's model.

Those who have the panorama version that we know have no complaints about it, and I haven't heard of any major problems with them...

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 9):
I have seen a couple of those E-classes with panoramic roof here, but must e-classes in denmark are working as taxis.

E-Class taxis? Nice! Most of the taxis here are either Toyota Camrys or Skoda Superbs.
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RE: Mercedes E-Class Panorama Roof -- Why So Few?

Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:36 am

Quoting QR332 (Reply 13):

E-Class taxis? Nice! Most of the taxis here are either Toyota Camrys or Skoda Superbs.

yeah it is quite nice, but its a bad thing that so many people here associate the e-class with a taxi, that means that not many people buy E-classes for private use.
here is a picture of what it looks like as a taxi:


but its really nice to get a ride in and most of the taxis are driving with a 3,2 liter CDI engine, so they are pretty fast too  Smile
 
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:41 am

Quoting Andz (Reply 1):
Because a BMW is better....

Nicely said. The thread can now be locked. Discussion finished.
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RE: Mercedes E-Class Panorama Roof -- Why So Few?

Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:51 am

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 14):
yeah it is quite nice, but its a bad thing that so many people here associate the e-class with a taxi, that means that not many people buy E-classes for private use.
here is a picture of what it looks like as a taxi:

Same as with the Camry here - but the Toyota dealership isn't complaining, they sold 2,000 Camrys to the transport company! But, the colours make the car look ugly IMO... the E240 is a beautiful car and the taxi livery does not do it justice.

http://www.mowasalat.com/eng/ - the Qatar transport company site.
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RE: Mercedes E-Class Panorama Roof -- Why So Few?

Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:14 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 15):
Nicely said. The thread can now be locked. Discussion finished.

what took you so long?  Wink

Quoting QR332 (Reply 16):
E240 is a beautiful car and the taxi livery does not do it justice.

I second that!  Smile
 
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:24 am

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 17):
what took you so long?

I broke my laptop power adapter during the week and had to wait for a new one to arrive from the guy off Ebay! Big grin
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RE: Mercedes E-Class Panorama Roof -- Why So Few?

Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:27 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 18):
I broke my laptop power adapter during the week and had to wait for a new one to arrive from the guy off Ebay!

poor you! I was afraid that you had been drinking too much tea lately  Wink
 
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:30 am

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 19):
I was afraid that you had been drinking too much tea lately

Not at all but I've been grilling lots of bacon. Hmm, bacon.
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:34 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 20):
Not at all but I've been grilling lots of bacon. Hmm, bacon.

sucks to be you.  Smile

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Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:35 am

No no, Audi is the best now! BMW make rubbish looking cars with ill-designed screens and crappy ergonomics. Ultimate driving machine? Methinks not!
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Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:01 am

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 22):
No no, Audi is the best now! BMW make rubbish looking cars with ill-designed screens and crappy ergonomics. Ultimate driving machine? Methinks not!

exactly!!!
Audi makes some nice cars, but I am a hardcore Mercedes fan... My dad is probably going to buy that Q7 though, and I am going to test drive it tomorrow.. can't wait!!
I had the chance to try a Porsche Cayenne and a Cayenne S a few days ago.. the Cayenne was too slow. The 3.2 liter engine is simply not enough for that big car. the 4.5 liter engine was much better! I would love to be the owner of such a car!  Smile
 
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RE: Mercedes E-Class Panorama Roof -- Why So Few?

Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:06 am

Quoting Captaingomes (Reply 22):
Ultimate driving machine?

Dude, you drive a Vento. Your comment is invalid.

Hell, last time I went driving with you, you hit a sign post in the scottish highlands and ended up head first in an RB211.


http://www.tmfy.com/personal/edinburgh/images/IMG_2678_JPG.jpg

http://www.tmfy.com/personal/edinburgh/images/IMG_2767_JPG.jpg

More of CaptainDumbassGomes driving here!

http://www.tmfy.com/personal/edinburgh/

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Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:26 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 24):
Hell, last time I went driving with you, you hit a sign post in the scottish highlands and ended up head first in an RB211.

You IDIOT! That happened to be there! I didn't hit anything, and it's not my fault over there you have fake Superman trying to lift my rented Renault or sign posts laying haphazardly along the road side. Now go back to chasing chav ass, you nitwit.
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