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Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:50 am

I got the new album "Super Colossal" a week ago, and it's awesome.



While many people might not know who Joe Satriani is, some consider him to be the best guitarrist alive. There are no lyrics (except on older songs), the various guitars in his tunes completely replace that. The guitars are the vocals, in a way. And there's such a wide variety of styles, from hard and fast-paced to melodic and melancholic. There's really something for everybody.



I was wondering if there are any more fans of Joe Satriani on this board.

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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:23 am

Is this the same guy who played a concert at Folsom prison? If it is, this guy is an incredible guitarist. I am not much of a music buff but out local public radio covered the show
 
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:34 am

I've been listening to Joe Satriani since the mid 1980's!

he rocks..........!!!

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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:37 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 1):
Is this the same guy who played a concert at Folsom prison?

I think you're talking about Johnny Cash.

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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:38 am

You mean the guy who owns The Pork Store on "The Sopranos?"
I suppose . . .
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:46 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 3):
I think you're talking about Johnny Cash.

I know Cash did it, I was mistaken the artist I was talking about is Michael Franti. He played a show at Folsom prison back in November. Most public radio stations played the concert later at thier respective stations. It was quite good, I just was mistaken on the artist.
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:54 am

One of my friends got "Super Colossal" last week. I listened to a bunch of it in his car. The title track is good, as are the other ones I heard (don't know the names). But "Crowd Chant" is just freaking awesome. I can just imagine him playing that live, and the whole crowd doing the call and response thing. God we listened to that song like 10 times in a row.

Also I like the stuff Satriani did with G3 (with Vai and Johnson).

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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:57 am

I'm not familiar with much of his work, but I like 'Flying in a Blue Dream.'
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:54 am

Birdwatching:
I guess you can count me in.
The guy is an amazing guitar player. However I only have his most popular album 'Surfing With The Alien'.

He is a San Francisco native too and pops up from time to time to play at local clubs.
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:47 pm

Since the death of my #1 guitar "hero", composer, producer, film director and genius, Frances Vincent Zappa, Joe Satriani has moved up to #1. Jacobin777 posted the cover of "Surfing with the Alien" IMO one of his best albums. There are certain Satriani rifs that put a chill up my spine, and others that at times make me cry. Satriani's music has almost complete control over my emotions. I've got some deep feelings, memories and experiences connected to his music.

Yeah......he's OK.

Satriani, Stevie Vai and Eric Johnson toured as "G 3" in 1998. The show at Irvine Meadows was awesome. If anyone is a Satriani fan, buy the concert DVD immediately. It is a very well directed shoot of the concert and DOES NOT cut like an MTV video. The camera shots are well framed and allow the viewer to watch the artist PLAY. On the DVD, each artist is featured playing 3 pieces and finally all three guitarist join together and play 3 more pieces. The solos are awesome. Together they play Zappa's "My Guitar's going to kill your Mama". I recommended it to LY7E7, my A.net Zappa buddy, and wonder if he got it yet.

I'm going home now to blast some Joe.
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:47 pm

Quoting Kevinl1011 (Reply 9):
Since the death of my #1 guitar "hero", composer, producer, film director and genius, Frances Vincent Zappa, Joe Satriani has moved up to #1. Jacobin777 posted the cover of "Surfing with the Alien" IMO one of his best albums. There are certain Satriani rifs that put a chill up my spine, and others that at times make me cry. Satriani's music has almost complete control over my emotions. I've got some deep feelings, memories and experiences connected to his music.

one of my all-time favourites died a long time ago...



also, another one of my favourites died in August 1990..............



in fact, I was still at Alpine Music Theatre (Alpine Valley, Wisconsin) when his helicopter crashed (he opened up for Ecic Clapton)........it was only a few hundred yards away, but no one was able to hear it crash...

I remember it clearly...the night was very foggy.I had a difficult time driving home..

it wasn't until the following morning did I find out what happenend...

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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:28 pm

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 10):
in fact, I was still at Alpine Music Theatre (Alpine Valley, Wisconsin) when his helicopter crashed (he opened up for Ecic Clapton)........it was only a few hundred yards away, but no one was able to hear it crash...

A good friend of mine was at that show in Alpine Valley too.
He is a big fan of Stevie Ray Vaughn. I was told that Stevie stole the show that night.
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:06 pm

In the early 90's I was a lot into Joe's music, I have the followings albums :

- Not Of This Earth (special note : Drums in this album is a drum-machine, anyone of you heard the different snare sounds and the moves around the tempos on the first track ? Amazing job !)

- Dreaming No 11
- Surfing With The Alien
- Flying in a Blue Dream
- The Extremist
- Time Machine

I still enjoy his music on my iPod. I have nothing to add from the comments above except maybe that Joe Satriani comes from the old days of the guitars heroes era. He plays with damn good musicians like Greg & Matt Bissonnet, Simon Philips, Stuart Hamm, Doug Wimbish, Steve Vai... to name just a few.

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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:20 am

He had an autograph session here in Portland a couple of weeks ago. I was first in line! Chatted a bit with him before the session, but my ex was upset because when the Q&A started, I didn't ask him anything like what his favorite ice cream is. Whatev....

Anyway, I had him autograph "Beautiful Guitar" and "Super Collosal" but I have not listened to "Super Collosal" yet. It is still sitting on my book shelf to be admired by all!

Joe will be performing May 11 at the Roseland Theater in Portland and, of course, I will be there just waiting for "Flying In A Blue Dream"

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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:22 pm

I've been a Satriani fan since I started reading and studying his monthly column in a guitar magazine in the mid-80's, when I was playing (badly). Reading the columns, it was clear that he has an astounding knowledge of musical theory. I have no idea if still does that, as I stopped playing about 15 years ago.

As far as technique is concerned, there is nobody better that I can think of.

In terms of tone, I wish he would use heavier strings. His guitar always has sounded a little too "lite". Watching "Live at SF", he is clearly playing extremely thin strings, like .008 or .007 even. Sure, some of the stunts would be hard to do with .009s, but it would sound better.

His Ibanez JS signiture guitar is fantastic. When it first came out, I tried it, with .009s through a good Fender tube amp, and it HOWLED! Most wonderful guitar sound since the Les Paul / Marshall combo. I am still shocked that not one other major guitarist has used that JS guitar. It's extremely comfortable and smooth-playing.

When watching Satriani, I can't help thinking that he's a bit of a one-trick pony. He shows off all his tricks and techniques, which are impressive as hell, but after an hour, it starts to blur together. Players like Stevie Ray Vaughan or BB King don't have Satriani's technical skills, but they play with a lot more feeling, and I think that is what gets drowned out in Satriani's playing.
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:52 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 14):
In terms of tone, I wish he would use heavier strings. His guitar always has sounded a little too "lite".

Agreed. However, that was the 'in' sound in the late 1980s. Even God was using ...oops, I mean Alex Lifeson was using really light gauge strings on the Hold Your Fire album in 1987. I haven't heard any of Satriani's new stuff. Is he still using light gauge strings?
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:06 pm

Satriani is a great guitar player. I don't own any of his albums, but I've got quite a few songs on my computer and they rock!
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:42 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 14):
When watching Satriani, I can't help thinking that he's a bit of a one-trick pony. He shows off all his tricks and techniques, which are impressive as hell, but after an hour, it starts to blur together. Players like Stevie Ray Vaughan or BB King don't have Satriani's technical skills, but they play with a lot more feeling, and I think that is what gets drowned out in Satriani's playing.

Concur.
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:15 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
He is a big fan of Stevie Ray Vaughn. I was told that Stevie stole the show that night.

He blew everyone away....it was a two night show.......I went to the 2nd of both nights (obviously).......it was along with Robert Cray Band and his brother Jimmy Vaughan.......

they all played for an encore with Eric Clapton....IIRC...it was "Sweet Home Chicago"...quite ironic.......

I did see him open up for Jeff Beck (just goes to show how much people respect Jeff Beck..in fact, I even saw Santana open for Jeff Beck) in 1989...he was amazing....but Jeff Beck stole the show. spin ...

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
Agreed. However, that was the 'in' sound in the late 1980s. Even God was using ...oops, I mean Alex Lifeson was using really light gauge strings on the Hold Your Fire album in 1987. I haven't heard any of Satriani's new stuff. Is he still using light gauge strings?

yes..his equipment back then had to do with it.....though his Ibenez guitars had humbuckers, they weren't the "heavy-guage" humbuckers like one sees in Gibson Les Pauls....along with the fact he used lighter guage strings (possibly even "xl" strings..but I'm not sure about that)......finally, many of the artists back then, including George Lynch of Dokken, Paul Gilbert, and Satriani's protoge Steve Vai used an effect called an "Eventide harmonizer"..... coincidentally, Satriani's other protoge, Kirk Hammet of Metallica really didn't use one......1)because of his unique style 2)Jwith James Hetfield providing rythm guitar, the sound was quite "thick" and using a harmonizer wouldn't have fit within the "Metallica Crunch" mode....

though the Eventide Harmonizer was used as "octave" and "pitch" layering..I found it to "thin" the sound also......

add some effects such as "chorus" and "flanger" and possibly a "phaser"..and viola! the "thin" sound of Satriani........

Joe Satriani is considered to be "the guitarists guitarist".......

speaking of Alex Lifeson (Zivojinovich), I liked his style until "Grace Under Pressure".....but he's still a phenomenal guitarist!

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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:40 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 18):
yes..his equipment back then had to do with it.....though his Ibenez guitars had humbuckers, they weren't the "heavy-guage" humbuckers like one sees in Gibson Les Pauls....along with the fact he used lighter guage strings (possibly even "xl" strings..but I'm not sure about that)......finally, many of the artists back then, including George Lynch of Dokken, Paul Gilbert, and Satriani's protoge Steve Vai used an effect called an "Eventide harmonizer"..... coincidentally, Satriani's other protoge, Kirk Hammet of Metallica really didn't use one......1)because of his unique style 2)Jwith James Hetfield providing rythm guitar, the sound was quite "thick" and using a harmonizer wouldn't have fit within the "Metallica Crunch" mode....

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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:39 am

I'm personally not a fan of his style of music, but I do respect him alot, because being able to play like that takes alot of talent and many years of practice.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 14):

In terms of tone, I wish he would use heavier strings. His guitar always has sounded a little too "lite". Watching "Live at SF", he is clearly playing extremely thin strings, like .008 or .007 even. Sure, some of the stunts would be hard to do with .009s, but it would sound better.

I've used .008s, but they dont come close to how much im able to bend my Ernie
Ball .009s.


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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:21 pm

I like to play the mistical pottato grove..thing by satch....

I like him a lot because he know a lot about music, but in my biew there are some guitar player that get to a point in playing, expertise or expresion that YOU CANNOT compare them, or say this guy is better than that one.....

Those in that group are no more than 40 guys in my opinion, but Satrianni is def. in that group.
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:32 pm

Definetly falls into that style of music that has no redeeming qualities save the fact that it takes superhuman talent to play. See also: Rush (who for whatever reason, seem to enjoy a strong following among aviation enthusiasts), Dream Theatre, and most of 2005.  Wink
 
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:27 pm

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 19):
B-b-but they ain't got no soul, brother. Albert King did more with six notes thatn those guys have ever done in a lifetime of shredding and flailing. And what he didn't do, Lonnie Mack did.

yah...I think most "shredders" are lacking in the "soul" department......that is why players such as Buddy Guy, Albert King, B.B.King, Stevie Ray Vaughan are considered "gods" of the blues...they know how to make their guitar sing..

shredders are a whole different breed of musicians...just like comparing a 911 turbo to a Bentley.........or mangos and pineapples...they all are amazing in their individual and unique ways.......I can appreciate all kinds of musicians and being a guitarist for more than two decades has only added to that appreciation

Quoting Dan2002 (Reply 20):

I've used .008s, but they dont come close to how much im able to bend my Ernie
Ball .009s.

.008 lord have mercy! I used to run with .009's, then I went to "light tops with heavy bottoms" now I'm with 10-13-17-26-36-46 (i.e.-regular)..

I've been using Dean Markley Blue Steel Electric Guitar Strings ever since they came out back in the 1980's....I prefer them over all brands

it all depends on my axe........ Smile
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:33 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 14):
His Ibanez JS signiture guitar is fantastic. When it first came out, I tried it, with .009s through a good Fender tube amp, and it HOWLED! Most wonderful guitar sound since the Les Paul / Marshall combo. I am still shocked that not one other major guitarist has used that JS guitar. It's extremely comfortable and smooth-playing.

Agree completely. Little story: when we were in Germany on a high school trip in '98, me and my bandmates wandered randomly into a guitar store. I picked up a JS-2000, and told our lead guitarist that this was the next guitar he should buy.

Fast forward to a year and a half later: he's looking for a new guitar, and ends up buying a JS-2000, without even realizing it was the same guitar I had picked out a year and a half earlier.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
Even God was using ...oops, I mean Alex Lifeson

I dunno....I might vote for Neal Peart or Geddy Lee to be the true God  Wink

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 19):

B-b-but they ain't got no soul, brother.

In my opinion, "soul" comes in different varieties. The style of playing that Kirk Hammett employs might contain just as much feeling as BB King or whoever else. It's just a different way of expressing it (also, sadly, I don't think Kirk Hammett has gotten to show off his talent in different styles of guitar playing that I'm sure he has).

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 22):
See also: Rush (who for whatever reason, seem to enjoy a strong following among aviation enthusiasts), Dream Theatre, and most of 2005.

Dude, you cannot compare Rush and Dream Theater to the music that came out in 2005! Go see either band live; you'll be mesmerized by the talent AND the musicality.  Smile

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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:11 pm

I see a lot of analysis in the posts above but for me it comes down to one thing: do I like the sound. The answer is yes, I have Surfing with the Alien too, and like the few other people I know who have it, they bought it because my favourite radio station played "Always With Me, Always With You" regularly when the album came out.

Other guitarists I enjoy are Gary Moore, Robben Ford, Carlos Santana, Jonathan Butler, Mark Knopfler, George Benson, Eric Clapton and Lee Ritenour. All different but all meeting the opening criteria: I like the sound.
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:14 pm

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 24):

In my opinion, "soul" comes in different varieties. The style of playing that Kirk Hammett employs might contain just as much feeling as BB King or whoever else. It's just a different way of expressing it (also, sadly, I don't think Kirk Hammett has gotten to show off his talent in different styles of guitar playing that I'm sure he has).

I agree with you, but I think he's meaning "soul" in the traditional sense...

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 24):
Dude, you cannot compare Rush and Dream Theater to the music that came out in 2005! Go see either band live; you'll be mesmerized by the talent AND the musicality

I find these musicians or the late 90's to present day rather trite and uncreative....bring back them' musicians of the 1960's to the 1980's...when music was music and it was damn cool to play guitar, pick up "Guitar for the Practicing Musician", "Guitar World", "Guitar Player", and "Guitar School" and work on riffs and songs at home for hours a day and watch all those brilliant guitarists.......!!!!

Hammet/Gilbert/McAlpine/Murry/Smith/Vaughan/Rhoads/Lifeson/Hendrix/Downing/
Tipton/Schenker/Lynch/Beck/Page/Clapton/Townshend/Young/ and a zillion other guitarists not listed.......

ahhh..those were the days....... Smile
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:44 pm

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 24):

Dude, you cannot compare Rush and Dream Theater to the music that came out in 2005! Go see either band live; you'll be mesmerized by the talent AND the musicality.

That was ment to be more tongue in cheek than a slap in the face of prog rock. I don't really care about these bands one way or the other, but I'll be more than happy to go see Rush or Dream Theatre live if you're willing to put up money for the outrageous ticket price.  Wink The prog-metal that's become so popular as of late is a different story...you couldn't pay me to go see most of those bands.
 
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RE: Any Fans Of Joe Satriani?

Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:50 pm

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 26):
Hammet/Gilbert/McAlpine/Murry/Smith/Vaughan/Rhoads/Lifeson/Hendrix/Downing/
Tipton/Schenker/Lynch/Beck/Page/Clapton/Townshend/Young/ and a zillion other guitarists not listed.......

I definitely agree with that  Smile

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 27):
I don't really care about these bands one way or the other, but I'll be more than happy to go see Rush or Dream Theatre live if you're willing to put up money for the outrageous ticket price. Wink The prog-metal that's become so popular as of late is a different story...you couldn't pay me to go see most of those bands.

Yeah, the Dream Theater concert I went to a few weeks ago made me $60 poorer  Sad. I don't remember how much Rush ran me in '02, but it was quite a bit.

I don't really consider the Nu-Metal or whatever "prog" as such. To me, "Prog" implies talent  Wink

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