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If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:07 pm

When and where is the best time to see the Northern Lights?

What else does Alaska have to offer?

Is there anything there that might interest little kids, considering that I want to see the Northern Lights.
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:16 pm

Andes--

When are you taking me and my god children up there? We can shack up with ANCFlyer.
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:17 pm

Quoting STLGph (Reply 1):
We can shack up with ANCFlyer

Hopefully he gets the hint.  Smile

I wonder how you deal with 24 hr sunshine.
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:19 pm

Quoting AndesSMF (Thread starter):
When and where is the best time to see the Northern Lights?

When ANCFlyer finally takes his hat off. It's been on his head for so long that the big white flash should be mindblowing.

 duck 
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:20 pm

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 2):

I wonder how you deal with 24 hr sunshine.

Haven't you paid attention to these boards before?

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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:24 pm

If I ever go to Alaska, I will have a beer with ANCflyer. He will have many beers. After he is drunk, I will knock him down and steal his Superduty and go explore Alaska for a few weeks.




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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:26 pm

Quoting STLGph (Reply 4):
Haven't you paid attention to these boards before?

I dont know if I could get used to drinking during the day.
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:34 pm

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 6):

I dont know if I could get used to drinking during the day.

Wha???!!!!!?????!!!!!?????!!!!

I'm coming to Sacramento ASAP to work on this.
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:34 pm

I think its actually a bigger sin to take ANCflyer's hat off in public than it is to take a Saudi Arabian womans head cover off. Thats just a little theory of mine. God will smite you for both  Wink
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:41 pm

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 8):
I think its actually a bigger sin to take ANCflyer's hat off in public than it is to take a Saudi Arabian womans head cover off. Thats just a little theory of mine. God will smite you for both

Damn, thats a good one! Take a bow. Well, we can try to take it off, and if the earth starts to rumble, well put it back immediately. On the other hand, him being in law enforcement, ANCflyer does carry a gun...doesnt he?
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:08 pm

Quoting AndesSMF (Thread starter):
When and where is the best time to see the Northern Lights?

In the dead of winter - clear skies (duh), and the colder the better. Best viewed at -30F and below.

Quoting AndesSMF (Thread starter):
What else does Alaska have to offer?

Start with a book called: The Milepost. Geez, this is a big question, I don't even know where to start. Hunting, fishing, hiking, nature, airplane spotting, camping, cruises, two railroads, glaciers, moose, caribou, bear, eagles, cities, farms, towns, villages, oceans, islands, beer, great restaurants, mountains, rivers, lakes, rock climbing, scuba for lobster and crab, I could go on . . .

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 2):
Quoting STLGph (Reply 1):
We can shack up with ANCFlyer

Hopefully he gets the hint.

     

Quoting Saxdiva (Reply 3):
When ANCFlyer finally takes his hat off. It's been on his head for so long that the big white flash should be mindblowing.

     I still have all my hair . . . so far. A-Net is waring on it though!   

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 2):
I wonder how you deal with 24 hr sunshine.

Sun finally disappeared tonight about 2200, will be back about 0300. As the summer progresses, we won't see darkness up here at work. Of course - the opposite is true in the winter.

Quoting STLGph (Reply 4):

There is that:


Quoting NWA742 (Reply 5):
After he is drunk, I will knock him down and steal his Superduty and go explore Alaska for a few weeks.

   Never gonna happen . . . never let my guard down that far in public . . . but, I'll take you where you wanna go . . .

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 6):
I dont know if I could get used to drinking during the day.

Suuuure you will!     

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 9):
On the other hand, him being in law enforcement, ANCflyer does carry a gun...doesnt he?

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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:14 pm

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 9):
Damn, thats a good one! Take a bow.

I smell sarcasm...  Wink
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:14 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10):
Start with a book called: The Milepost

OK, so my kids absolutely adored Yosemite last year. Is there a time when the weather is not that cold when you could see the Northern Lights?

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10):
Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 9):
On the other hand, him being in law enforcement, ANCflyer does carry a gun...doesnt he?

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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:25 pm

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 12):
Is there a time when the weather is not that cold when you could see the Northern Lights?

Nope. Winter or bust.

Viewing up this far north is easy - very little man made light sources to clutter up the view. Get on top of Sagwon Pass or Atigun Pass - no man made light for 50 miles - and there they are. These pictures take from Sagwon Pass . . . about 62 miles south of the Arctic Ocean. About 2000' elevation.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/csmpep/Northernlightsplmp108b.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/csmpep/Northernlightsplmp108a.jpg
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:30 pm

Words cannot describe it...wow!

And you say that they move perceptively.

Thanks for the pics. I'll have to take that AK trip, hopefully soon.
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:11 pm

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 14):
And you say that they move perceptively.

Hell yeah, they dance across the sky, no question they are moving. If you look closely at the photos you'll see the mountains in the background. They were taken at the same spot at the same time, and you can see how the lights have move from picture to the other.

It's about -26F right now, and they are out tonight. Not as bright as usual, but definitely there.  biggrin 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:02 pm

Interesting, that colour. Is that the colour they usually have? If I recall correctly, the ones I saw in Norway were mostly green and sometimes red-ish.
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:16 pm

Quoting Aloges (Reply 16):
Is that the colour they usually have?

Green is the dominant color for them . . . they can occasionally be red, yellows and oranges . . . usually green though. Must be all the GREENhouse gas in the air  wink  duck 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:48 pm

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 8):
I think its actually a bigger sin to take ANCflyer's hat off in public than it is to take a Saudi Arabian womans head cover off. Thats just a little theory of mine. God will smite you for both

I can confirm that ANCFlyer does take his dome piece off on a very rare occasion. Pep, myself and Brenna rolled into a local bar one of my last nights in ANC for a few pops and he actually pealed the hat off and left it in his truck! When we got back to the truck it was back on before I could even blink, but it actually does come off!  Wink
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:56 pm

Quoting KROC (Reply 18):
I can confirm that ANCFlyer does take his dome piece off on a very rare occasion. Pep, myself and Brenna rolled into a local bar one of my last nights in ANC for a few pops and he actually pealed the hat off and left it in his truck! When we got back to the truck it was back on before I could even blink, but it actually does come off!

Was I wearing the Army Hat or the Cop Hat? If it was the cop hat, then dor damn sure I took it off before going into 'Koots . . . I'm  crazy , I'm not Stupid (contrary to a few members opinions  wink  ). Cops and 'Koots are usually NOT a good mix.  eek  box  fight  ouch 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:00 pm

It was the retired Army Hat. I had no idea you owned any other hats!  Wink
 
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Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:51 pm

I will be up in Alaska next month, I guess that's too late for them, but can't wait anyway....all those lovely classic props... and the scenery of course too...
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:56 am

I drove back in from Palmer last night about midnight, and they were out over the Chugach mountains along with a full moon. Spectacular; lots of purple thrown in with the green. That's one thing I miss about Fairbanks.
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:49 am

Quoting KROC (Reply 18):

I can confirm that ANCFlyer does take his dome piece off on a very rare occasion.

Myself, along with just about everyone who attended the LAS Meetup, can also vouch seeing him hatless. I doubt he would have been allowed into Delmonicos wearing a hat. And further proof:

http://cc.usu.edu/~stephenh/LASMeet/LAS15.jpg
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:54 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 23):
And further proof:

Ow... it burns, it burns!!!

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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:00 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 23):
And further proof:

I smell a conspiracy theory coming on, that is not the real ANCflyer, but a replacement.  Wink
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:20 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Thread starter):
When and where is the best time to see the Northern Lights?

Anytime in winter, they were out last night at my house and I am well south in the state. We get them a few times a year and last night the conditions came together with a cold clear night and we sat outside drinking beers and watching the show. It was about 0F with the windchill and the greens danced around on the horizon and would streak straight up occassionally with red streaks next to the green. Quite nice.

Quoting AndesSMF (Thread starter):
What else does Alaska have to offer?

Plenty, just look around.

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 2):
I wonder how you deal with 24 hr sunshine.

For folks who live here it is a gradual change over several months so its normal and you learn to value the fact you have more daylight, more time for summer activities, fishing mostly.

Quoting Chugach (Reply 22):
That's one thing I miss about Fairbanks.

Oh the lights in FAI, when the ice fog is clear the sky glows green like a giant Heineken neon sign.
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:04 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Thread starter):
When and where is the best time to see the Northern Lights?

Winter-Fairbanks.

I don't have the time to look up the website, but I seem to remember UAF having a website that predicted aurora activy.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:04 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 26):
Anytime in winter, they were out last night at my house and I am well south in the state. We get them a few times a year and last night the conditions came together with a cold clear night and we sat outside drinking beers and watching the show. It was about 0F with the windchill and the greens danced around on the horizon and would streak straight up occassionally with red streaks next to the green. Quite nice.

So I get the idea that even the people of Alaska still love to watch the 'show'? My concern about this proposed trip is what I would do with two small kids. They love the outside and my daughter would absolutely go nuts if she sees a real bald eagle. But is there a place like this, where nature watching and hiking (with comfortable temperatures) can be done during the day, and then the wife and I can have a drink while watching the aurora?

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 26):
For folks who live here it is a gradual change over several months so its normal and you learn to value the fact you have more daylight, more time for summer activities, fishing mostly

How much sleep do people actually do during 24 hr days? Just a silly question.
 
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:17 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 28):
My concern about this proposed trip is what I would do with two small kids. They love the outside and my daughter would absolutely go nuts if she sees a real bald eagle. But is there a place like this, where nature watching and hiking (with comfortable temperatures) can be done during the day, and then the wife and I can have a drink while watching the aurora?

Throw a snowsuit on them an let them make snowmen Big grin

Kids can expend an amazing amount of energy on a sledding hill.

Someone more familiar with Fairbanks might be able to answer this, but arn't you able to rent outdoor hot tubs up at Chena during the winter to watch the lights?

Can't really see too much aurora activity in summer-this is the land of the midnight sun after all!
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:18 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 28):
They love the outside and my daughter would absolutely go nuts if she sees a real bald eagle. But is there a place like this, where nature watching and hiking (with comfortable temperatures) can be done during the day, and then the wife and I can have a drink while watching the aurora?

If your main reason for traveling is the Northern Lights, you must do it in winter, I know there are tour groups and such that do Aurora tours, mostly Japanese tourists I believe. Fairbanks is your best bet for visiting a city with good accomodations and having a more or less guaranteed chance to see them. But it will be cold, there is not much way around that except to dress warm. Fairbanks is routinely in the -20 to -40F in the winter. But there is a festival type thing that happens in february I believe. Involves the sled dog races, and plenty of ice scupltures. But comfortable temps for someone coming from a warm climate will be difficult in FAI. I was born in ANC, and FAI is flat out cold. To see eagles and other wildlife it would be wise to take a road trip from FAI to the ANC area, where you can see all those critters in winter. There is a place in Homer where a lady feeds eagles all winter, there are dozens if not hundreds of bald eagles there. You also might be able to go for a fishing trip for white winter king salmon out of Homer, which are probably the best tasting salmon around.

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 28):
How much sleep do people actually do during 24 hr days? Just a silly question.

Well you can definatly get away with less. It isnt light 24hrs here where I live in the Bristol Bay region. But it doesnt really get dark, you can easily get away with a few hours less of sleep. In the winter I am a 9hour guy, in the summer 6-7 is plenty.
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:25 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 30):

Thanks for all the info, Bushpilot.

BTW, fishing and I just dont mix, for some reason I just cant get the fish to bite. I have had friends on either side, shoulder to shoulder, catching fish. I give them my hook, they catch them, but for some f*****g reason they just dont bite for me. The last time I tried it in my honeymoon. Everybody, even my wife, caught a fish. Me, well, at least my wife help mop up my manhood from the bottom of the boat.
 
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:31 am

Quoting L-188 (Reply 29):
Someone more familiar with Fairbanks might be able to answer this, but arn't you able to rent outdoor hot tubs up at Chena during the winter to watch the lights?

When I was living up there from 98-00 they did offer it, and a weekend package deal to boot. I never did it, but it sounded novel.
 
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:36 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 32):
When I was living up there from 98-00 they did offer it, and a weekend package deal to boot. I never did it, but it sounded novel.

I thought they did..

There you go AndesSMF.

Fly into Anchorage, get you and the wife on the train north-they do run winter. And spend a nice night sipping wine in -40 temps while sitting in a pool of 70 degree water watching the northern lights.
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:45 am

Quoting L-188 (Reply 33):
Fly into Anchorage, get you and the wife on the train north-they do run winter. And spend a nice night sipping wine in -40 temps while sitting in a pool of 70 degree water watching the northern lights.

Weeeellllll, now thats a little better, my son is a real train fanatic at three years old (we took him on a weekend train trip for his b-day). He actually refuses to watch any toy train stuff, he only watches real train videos. So that is a good idea.

BTW, for the first time he has started to take a toy with him to sleep, an airplane...sniff! words cannot describe the happiness...
 
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:53 am

Quoting L-188 (Reply 33):
-40 temps while sitting in a pool of 70 degree water watching the northern lights

Um, not to nitpick (well, actually, completely to nitpick), but if you spend more than a few minutes sitting in 70 degree water at -40 you're going to be a prime candidate for severe hypothermia, not to mention, damn uncomfortable. Now, make it 105 and you got a deal!
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:07 am

http://www.chenahotsprings.com/
There is the website, they offer quite a few activities in the winter as well.


Quoting Searpqx (Reply 35):
but if you spend more than a few minutes sitting in 70 degree water at -40 you're going to be a prime candidate for severe hypothermia, not to mention, damn uncomfortable. Now, make it 105 and you got a deal!

Yeah its hotter than 105 even, I know it comes out of the ground either at or real close to boiling temps, they cool it quite a bit before it hits the tubs. I think it is close to the standard hot tub temps, but the minerals in the water are supposed to blah blah blah, good for your skin blah blah etc. Once nice touch is you can jump out of the water and directly into the snow and witness penis shrinkage in the glory of green light under the aurora LOL
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:12 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 36):
penis shrinkage

Thanks, I might check out prices for my 10 year anniversary next year.
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:54 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 28):
My concern about this proposed trip is what I would do with two small kids.

Alaska is well known for it's many, many varied uses for Duct Tape . . . might I suggest you add to the list  biggrin  wink 

Or, there's this:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 29):
Throw a snowsuit on them an let them make snowmen

Kids can expend an amazing amount of energy on a sledding hill.



Quoting L-188 (Reply 33):
the train north-they do run winter

Only on weekends. Northbound ANC-FAI on Sat, Southbound FAI-ANC on Sunday.

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 34):
BTW, for the first time he has started to take a toy with him to sleep, an airplane...sniff! words cannot describe the happiness...

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Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:01 am

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 36):
witness penis shrinkage in the glory of green light

Damn, that's romantic. Get out the Dom Perignon!  Yeah sure
 
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:25 am

Quoting L-188 (Reply 29):
Someone more familiar with Fairbanks might be able to answer this, but arn't you able to rent outdoor hot tubs up at Chena during the winter to watch the lights?

Hell, you don't even need to rent one--just go in the big outdoor pool. You haven't lived until you've been swimming outside at 30 below zero!

Quoting L-188 (Reply 27):
I don't have the time to look up the website, but I seem to remember UAF having a website that predicted aurora activy.

climate.gi.alaska.edu
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:31 am

Quoting Saxdiva (Reply 39):
Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 36):
witness penis shrinkage in the glory of green light

Damn, that's romantic. Get out the Dom Perignon!

Yeah it sucks for the ladies, but for the guys it makes her parts that we are interested in stand more....proud
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RE: If I Ever Go To Alaska...

Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:07 am

Quoting L-188 (Reply 27):
Winter-Fairbanks.

I don't have the time to look up the website, but I seem to remember UAF having a website that predicted aurora activy

Heres the website that predicts the aurora's.
http://www.gi.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/predict.cgi
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