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Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:16 am

Breaking news: CNN reports that the leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq, Al Zarqawi, has released a new videotape which has since been broadcast in the Middle East. CNN has shown a still from that video in which Al Zarqawi, dressed in black, appears along with a group of supporters.
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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:47 am

That would kind of proove to some Arabs, that he exists.

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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:01 am

Quoting Windshear (Reply 1):
That would kind of proove to some Arabs, that he exists.

I'm not sure he has that large of an impact. There are local warlords in Iraq who are quite powerful, and I'm not sure they answer to him.
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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:10 am

Yes very true...

But I was simply pointing out that some actually did not believe that he existed outside the US propaganda room (where ever that is).  Smile

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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:19 am

Quoting Windshear (Reply 3):
But I was simply pointing out that some actually did not believe that he existed outside the US propaganda room

Of course he exists... he's hiding somewhere and it's only a matter of time till he gets caught!
 
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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:33 am

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 4):

 Silly I do know that, I was referring to some claims from the Middle East, saying that he was a figure of American imagination... I have never doubted his existence.

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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:52 am

Too bad he is isn't dumb enough to do a live broadcast, so we could locate him, and blow him right to the Hot Furnace, run by Mr. Lucifer.
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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:10 am

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 4):
Of course he exists... he's hiding somewhere and it's only a matter of time till he gets caught!

Well if he was smart he would be hiding out with OBL! I havent even watched the video, nor do I need to, just another mouth piece and despite me not being a fan of this war, Id like to see him choke on a JDAM.
 
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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:24 pm

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 7):
Well if he was smart he would be hiding out with OBL!

Do you mind me asking why ??
 
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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:33 pm

A source were you can see parts of it:

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,413072,00.html

To me he looks heavier, but he is not walking like someone who had a lower leg amputated. He also wears his watch at the right wrist, like many left-handers do. Besides, he is shaking hands with some of his men, doesn't look like fanatics greeting each other.
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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:21 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 9):
doesn't look like fanatics greeting each other.

 rotfl  how does fanatics then greet each other?  Silly

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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:33 pm

Quoting Windshear (Reply 10):
how does fanatics then greet each other?

I don't know. I was expecting some yell, some handsign or gesture. Just something extraordinary, but Zarqawi looks like some manager from anywhere in the western world going through his factory and greeting the workes.
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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:45 pm

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

How old fashioned. Don't they have DVD?

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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:57 pm

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 12):

How old fashioned. Don't they have DVD?

 rotfl  it is actually becoming more and more trivial... They should actually considder going commercial Big grin

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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:59 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 11):
Just something extraordinary, but Zarqawi looks like some manager from anywhere in the western world going through his factory and greeting the workes.

They are not beasts, and I would also presume that Zarqawi views himself as a manager... Just which industry are we talking about, is a whole other issue.

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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:16 pm

Quoting Windshear (Reply 13):
They should actually consider going commercial

I can't wait for the Bin Laden speech DVD collection. Apparently it contains 3 previously unseen messages to the west, and as a bonus 30 minutes of Osamas video diary.

"Tuesday: Combed beard, milked the goats, and wished death to America."

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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:15 pm

Quoting Thom@s (Reply 15):
I can't wait for the Bin Laden speech DVD collection. Apparently it contains 3 previously unseen messages to the west, and as a bonus 30 minutes of Osamas video diary.

"Tuesday: Combed beard, milked the goats, and wished death to America."

 rotfl   rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl 

Gotta get that collectors edition which contains unseen "Cave" behind the camera footage Big grin

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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:16 am

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 8):
Do you mind me asking why ??

Sure ask away, I said it because OBL has not been caught yet.
 
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RE: Al Zarqawi Appears On Tape

Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:45 am

The reason that Bin Laden has not been caught may have less to do with our lack of capability than the ability of citizens of other countries to protect a single individual.

We caught Saddam and, additionally, killed both of his sons, in relatively short order. One of these events could have been sheer happenstance, but it seems unlikely that both of them were.

Thus, given the resourcefulness of Bin Laden, it is not improbable that he has been actively protected by state or state-like resources in a way that renders apprehension nearly impossible.

There are a multitude of places Bin Laden could be, from Sudan to uncontrolled areas of Pakistan. Unlike Saddam, Bin Laden had, and has, an international network of supporters, many of whom may be willingly sacrificed to preserve his safety. The fact that he, personally, has not been apprehended is not necessarily difficult to understand, especially when we appreciate that much of his organization has already been destroyed.
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