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Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 8:09 pm

Happy International Workers' Day!  Cool

I am not goin gin to work tomorrow and many stores I patronize will be closed as well. How many other s here celebrate or at least acknowledge this day?



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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 8:14 pm

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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 8:15 pm

I also will join our immigrant brothers & sisters in support for immigrants rights and show support for there struggles and major contributions to our society.
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 8:17 pm

I think I'll stick with the US Holiday . . . Labor Day, thanks all the same.
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 8:18 pm

I will be leaving work early to avoid the traffic deal in L.A., but otherwise it's a normal day for me.

Have a happy day, though, Superfly.  Smile
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 8:18 pm

ANCFlyer:
Two different topics. Mines is more descriptive and has historical significance.
The rally of support for our immigrant brothers & sisters is something new and different. It just takes place on the same day.
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 8:19 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
I think I'll stick with the US Holiday . . . Labor Day, thanks all the same.

Same here. I'll take my U.S. Holiday over this one. Plus all the stores I patronize will be open as well...which is good to see.
 
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 8:21 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Two different topics.

Thinly veiled IMO . . . since the questions asked in the thread opener are nearly identical . . . but doesn't really matter to me my friend. As I said, today means absolutely zippo to me . . . I'll wait on Labor Day . . . the sanctioned, recognized, official US Holiday to take my day off . . . thanks.
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 9:04 pm

I think I'm going to do some shopping today...shorter lines, right?  Wink
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 9:18 pm

I think we've become a society sadly lacking in the recognition of worker's rights, so although I sometimes consider myself conservative in the area of employment, I have no great objection to the celebration of the working man (or woman).

The working man, after all, was once the great beneficiary of the Democratic Party, although seemingly not in these days of ours.

We can sing the praises of capitalism, and bosses and professionals and billionaires, the other 364 days of the week. Call me crazy, but a slight tip of the hat to the vast majority who aren't captains of industry shouldn't be any cause for concern.  

Citizens of America, unite! You have nothing to lose, but your apathy.  

[Edited 2006-05-01 14:19:19]
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 9:30 pm

I'll wait for Labor Day and combine it with my birthday.

I had a coworker who was on a project at the Board of Trade in Chicago and was there for May Day a few years back. He flew in on Monday morning and the normal car service to downtown showed up with a monster stretch limo to pick him up. As they pulled up to the CBOT the folks out protesting or rallying started to rock and shake the car. The driver had to speed off before they drug my coworkers capitalistic butt out of the limo.
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 9:35 pm

Sadly, I will be working, without any overtime...  Sad
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 9:37 pm

Yeah, there are nuts all over, Delta. It's a damned shame.

Don't get me wrong -- I'm not about to take the day off and I reject the notion of celebrating May Day other than to say that celebrating labor has its merits. The Communist connection alone makes the day largely unpalatable to me.

But, again, I take this opportunity to tweak the noses of the more fortunate among us, myself not excluded, including the Democrats, including the Republicans, in the name of those who do what we don't have to do, for whatever reason. And I acknowledge the hard work of Americans -- Americans, mind you, and not illegals -- in this country who over the hundreds of years of our national existence have labored, whether voluntarily or not, to make a life of themselves and to help build this country through the sweat of their brow.

Sure, their efforts would be for naught other than subsistence if not for capitalism. But, as Jesus preaches, blessed too are the poor and the humble, for they shall inherit the Earth.

There is nothing wrong, in my view, in the celebration of good and honest labor, whether it be on May Day, or on Labor Day, or both.  

By the way, a prospective Happy Birthday to you, Delta.  

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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 9:46 pm

Well, if the "Day Without Immigrants" theme is truly going to be appreciated, then in addition to not going to work and not going to school, maybe they can NOT go to any emergency rooms, NOT use any government assistance and NOT get arrested -- then we can get a fair assessment of their economic impact!
 
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Mon May 01, 2006 10:11 pm

Am I the only one who sees the irony of a public holiday on International Workers Day ? Let's all celebrate Workers Day by, erm, not actually working.

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I'm at home but I've been doing some work anyway (thanks to my new and shiny wireless internet access WOOOHOOO !) - have to prep for a trip to Morocco tomorrow. Come to think of it, that's even MORE ironic - working on International Workers Day and NOT GETTING PAID  grumpy 
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 1:57 am

The irony of this all is that while May Day reflects an event that happened in the US, it is not celebrated here.
 
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 3:20 am

I'm at work......celebrating the fact that I've got the greatest opportunities in history for individuals willing to work and take risks.

My mother, the immigrant, is at work three blocks from here doing the same thing.

My employee the ,latino immigrant, is doing the same thing the next office over.....(although he did send us all an email indicating he'd like the afternoon off since he wasn't bothering to go picket in the general demonstration....he couldn't keep a straight face prior to us finishing the thing).


I hope all you people who want to take May Day off remember that it was begun as a memorial to the Haymarket Riot, which was peaceful until an anarchist threw a bomb at the police and murdered several policemen. The anarchists and their descendents who later blew up the statue continually revise history to try and play this as a great feat of organized labor, but it's always been a Communist/Socialist contrivance of a celebration designed to make the worker class feel like they care about them.
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 3:56 am

Dear Comrade Superfly:

Workers of the world, unite!

Down with Capitalist running dogs!

 Big grin Big grin Big grin


Let us sing...

The Internationale:

Arise ye starvelings [or workers] from your slumbers
Arise ye criminals of want
For reason in revolt now thunders
and at last ends the age of cant.
Now away with all your superstitions
Servile masses arise, arise!
We'll change forthwith [or henceforth] the old conditions
And spurn the dust to win the prize.

CHORUS

Then come comrades rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale
Unites the human race. (repeat).

We peasants, artisans and others,
Enrolled amongst the sons of toil
Let's claim the earth henceforth for brothers
Drive the indolent from the soil.
On our flesh for too long has fed the raven
We've too long been the vultures prey.
But now farewell to spirit craven
The dawn brings in a brighter day.

CHORUS

No saviour from on high delivers
No trust we have in prince or peer
Our own right hand the chains must shiver
Chains of hatred, greed and fear.
Ere the thieves will out with their booty
And to all give a happier lot.
Each at his forge must do his duty
And strike the iron while its hot.
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 4:29 am

"Happy International Workers' Day "

Thanks...

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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 5:12 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 9):
I think we've become a society sadly lacking in the recognition of worker's rights, so although I sometimes consider myself conservative in the area of employment, I have no great objection to the celebration of the working man (or woman).

Excellent post!
Our society has been 'conditioned' to shun any sort of celebration or honor of the working class. We are 'conditioned' to praise those of wealth.

BTW, I also celebrate Labor Day.
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 5:37 am

International Workers Day has come to close here in Qatar. We all went to work here.

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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 7:53 am

"One helluva missed opportunity"

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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 7:59 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
Excellent post!

Thanks, Superfly.  Smile Although I don't celebrate May 1, I do recognize the value of American workers. I'm glad you do, too.
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 8:33 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 22):
I do recognize the value of American workers.

So do I. It's the illegal ones I don't value.  Wink

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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 8:36 am

Quoting JeffM (Reply 23):
So do I. It's the illegal ones I don't value.

Agreed. I don't even consider them "American", so by definition they don't fall within the ambit of the workers in America whom I respect. Illegals are foreigners.

Unlikes the Roman Catholic Church, American citizens and legal residents don't believe that citizenship is meaningless when it comes to whether people are entitled to work in this country.

Whenever I see someone who is probably an illegal doing construction work, for example, even though I personally have never done construction work and wouldn't qualify for any such work, I see not someone who is hard at work, but someone who isn't: An American that the illegal has replaced. Part of supporting the American worker is cracking down on illegals, deporting them, and making sure that construction and other so-called jobs that Americans allegedly won't do pay decent wages under legal conditions.

Employers who hire illegals should take note that they are trampling upon the rights of legal workers. Republicans, and Democrats, who support the causes of illegals essentially support the practices of these employers and betray the common working man in the name of their own interests. Perhaps it could be understood why pro-business Republicans are so badly misled as to engage in such support; far less understandable is why the Democrats of today are so much in favor of illegals, doing backflips and spouting verbal concatenations to avoid the central issue of the gross unfairness resulting from placing the interests of illegals above those of legitimate U.S. workers.

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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 10:55 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 24):
I don't even consider them "American",

Technically, anyone from North, Central and South America is an 'American".
I think you meant 'U.S. Citizen.

Anyone bickering about what should or what could be done is wasting there time. Our government would never stand in the way of corporate America making a profit so I don’t expect any change. All it’s doing is stirring up emotions of bigots that don’t like Latin Americans.
Do you really think our government is going to ‘force’ corporations to hire U.S. citizens and abide by labor laws on the books?
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 2:02 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
Our government would never stand in the way of corporate America making a profit

Of course not. Why the hell should they? Even your Liberal ass should know why. If corporations aren't making money, the Government gets less tax money to feed your "feel good" entitlement programs.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
All it’s doing is stirring up emotions of bigots that don’t like Latin Americans.

No. illegal immigrants do that on their own. You don't seem to understand one simple thing....it's not where these people are from that bothers real citizens, it's how they got here. If anything, the immigrants that came here legally should be the most upset about them.
 
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 2:12 pm

Quoting JeffM (Reply 26):
it's not where these people are from that bothers real citizens, it's how they got here.

Well said . . . . plain, simple, and spot fuckin' on.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 26):
If anything, the immigrants that came here legally should be the most upset about them.

And they are if news accounts are true to form . . .
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 2:15 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):

Technically, anyone from North, Central and South America is an 'American".
I think you meant 'U.S. Citizen.

Anyone bickering about what should or what could be done is wasting there time. Our government would never stand in the way of corporate America making a profit so I don’t expect any change. All it’s doing is stirring up emotions of bigots that don’t like Latin Americans.

My wife is Colombian and I don't like illegals. Why you ask? Because it is because of them I must wait 6-18 months for my wife's visa to clear.

I think the Dept. of Homeland Security should have used this day for mas deportations.
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 2:20 pm

Quoting JeffM (Reply 26):
Why the hell should they? Even your Liberal ass should know why.

I certainly know why. That's why I am not making an ass out of myself by building walls or joining any stupid Minuteman groups.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 26):
the Government gets less tax money to feed your "feel good" entitlement programs.

Man, your funny! Big grin

Quoting JeffM (Reply 26):
it's not where these people are from that bothers real citizens, it's how they got here.

Jeff, keep letting off steam here in the forums because our government ain't going to do a damn thing about it. Feel free to play in to the lip service the government feeds you.
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 2:22 pm

Quoting UAL777 (Reply 28):
I think the Dept. of Homeland Security should have used this day for mas deportations.

That would piss off big business. Don't you get it?
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 2:25 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 30):

That would piss off big business. Don't you get it?

Some people have a difficult time acknowledging that illegal immigrant labor is in the interest of big businesses.

The local college station had a great radio show to celebrate the day, lots of good songs.
 
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 2:51 pm

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 31):
Some people have a difficult time acknowledging that illegal immigrant labor is in the interest of big businesses.

Well said. That goes back to what I was saying earlier about our society being 'conditioned' to praise those of wealth and big business.
The anti-illegal immigration people will continue to  hissyfit  about the illegal immigrants but will never take to task hiring managers of corporations that hire illegal. The anti-illegal immigrant crowd isn't smart enough to see this.
Notice why there is no exodus of U.S. Citizens flocking to Mexico for jobs? It's because there aren't any jobs down there for us. Especially ones that pay better.
As long as big business and the rich hire illegal immigrants, the conservatives will continue to  hissyfit  .
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 3:16 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 32):
Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 31):
Some people have a difficult time acknowledging that illegal immigrant labor is in the interest of big businesses.

And small business,too.I know some business employing help below
minimum wage,$4.00-5.00 per hour.List a sector of business:
Landscaping,construction and painting, in which the honest guy is
losing out and getting undermined with cheap labor and lost taxes.

That's why I promote lowing the minimum wage and a amnesty program.
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 3:22 pm

Quoting Psa53 (Reply 33):

And small business,too.I know some business employing help below
minimum wage,$4.00-5.00 per hour.List a sector of business:
Landscaping,construction and painting, in which the honest guy is
losing out and getting undermined with cheap labor and lost taxes.

That's why I promote lowing the minimum wage and a amnesty program.

Very true. It seems like everyone who lives in the neighborhood I grew up in has Mexican workers mowing their lawns, pruning their hedges, etc.

Big business or small business, they're not jobs that most Americans are scratching with their hooves to be hired at. I can see the argument against illegal immigration from the standpoint that they aren't paying taxes, but the notion that they're taking jobs from Americans is pretty ridiculous.
 
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RE: Happy International Workers' Day

Tue May 02, 2006 3:55 pm

Well, in Germany farmers have for many years tried to get unemployed Germans to help them harvesting vegetables. Most Germans refuse and those who get sent by the dole office show up and then call in sick after one day, never to show up again. So they used to hire, up to a few years ago, illegal workers from Poland, who were not afraid of getting their hands dirty. Now, since Poland is in the EU, they can work legally.

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