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Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 3:50 am

WOW, only 2 blocks over from where I live and a middle, elementary and Catholic school all with in firing range!

http://wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=51707

LAKEWOOD -- Police say a man has reportedly fired shots at police officers for unknown reasons in Lakewood Wednesday afternoon.
It's happening on Granger Avenue near Clifton, on the west side of Lakewood.

Neighbors say that around Noon, an 18-year-old man named "Brad" began hanging out of an upstairs window of the home he is living in and firing a gun.

Since Channel 3 arrived on the scene, he has fired four shots at police and SWAT team members who have surrounded the house.

Police have not fired back yet.

There's no word if there are any injuries.

We'll have more on this developing story as details become available.

[Edited 2006-05-03 20:51:49]
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ba757
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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 4:01 am

Would be America wouldn't it with its gun laws  Wink

Isn't this kind of thing an every day occurrence in America?

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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 4:04 am

Quoting BA757 (Reply 1):
Would be America wouldn't it with its gun laws

Isn't this kind of thing an every day occurrence in America?

Adam

No this is not an every day occurrence! Thank you.
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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 4:07 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 2):
No this is not an every day occurrence! Thank you.

Really?? Funny that, I think I have heard about shootings on US TV news every time I have been to the states.

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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 4:08 am

Quoting BA757 (Reply 3):
Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 2):
No this is not an every day occurrence! Thank you.

Really?? Funny that, I think I have heard about shootings on US TV news every time I have been to the states.

Adam

A blanket statement like that, is like me saying all the people I know who have ever traveled to Italy have been victims of pick pockets.
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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 4:12 am

Quoting BA757 (Reply 1):
Would be America wouldn't it with its gun laws

Just before some American decides to take a pop at me about that comment, I am not necessarily against your gun laws. As long as your responsible with owning a gun, I don't have a problem with it.

Making it hard or illegal to own a gun isn't necessarily going to stop violent crime or murders, as generally the people who commit these crimes won't find it to hard to get hold of a weapon illegally.

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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 4:16 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 4):
A blanket statement like that, is like me saying all the people I know who have ever traveled to Italy have been victims of pick pockets.

Highly likely, you should be very wary of this in Italy, especially on public transport.

Anyway, what I mean by that statement is that generally every time I have watched US news on TV there is always some talk of shootings that have happened recently.

I suppose it depends on where you go, hardly surprising I have heard a lot of these stories on TV while visting New York, probably not the worlds safest city.

In contrast though, I seem to hear a lot less of these kind of stories on the UK news, although its on the increase.

Adam

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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 4:30 am

Quoting BA757 (Reply 1):
Isn't this kind of thing an every day occurrence in America?

I suspect it would be a statistical anomoly if there wasn't a gun used to commit a crime at least once per day somewhere in the United States.

After all, there are almost three hundred million oportunities for it to happen

Is it a daily occurance for the average American?

Not by a long shot. Most in fact will live their whole lives without encountering gun violence. Some unfortunates will encounter it much more often though...

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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 9:23 am

Quoting BA757 (Reply 1):
Isn't this kind of thing an every day occurrence in America?

 sarcastic  yup we have 18 year olds firing out windows at cops everyday.

You know you are about to get your ass flamed off for this, you do know right? I dont care how much explaining you do, you're toast.

Quoting BA757 (Reply 3):
Really?? Funny that, I think I have heard about shootings on US TV news every time I have been to the states.

Theres a difference between, shootings: ie:gunfire. And murder, which, if you travel to say JFK, ORD, MIA, LAX is inevitible, but murder isnt that common here, open your eyes...
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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 10:06 am

Here's your top60 most murderous countries, sorry, couldn't find the list that has the United States at the top of the list.....

#1 Colombia 61.78 per 100,000 people
#2 South Africa 49.60 per 100,000 people
#3 Jamaica 32.41 per 100,000 people
#4 Venezuela 31.61 per 100,000 people
#5 Russia 20.15 per 100,000 people
#6 Mexico 13.02 per 100,000 people
#7 Estonia 10.72 per 100,000 people
#8 Latvia 10.39 per 100,000 people
#9 Lithuania 10.28 per 100,000 people
#10 Belarus 9.83 per 100,000 people
#11 Ukraine 9.40 per 100,000 people
#12 Papua New Guinea 8.38 per 100,000 people
#13 Kyrgyzstan 8.02 per 100,000 people
#14 Thailand 8.00 per 100,000 people
#15 Moldova 7.81 per 100,000 people
#16 Zimbabwe 7.49 per 100,000 people
#17 Seychelles 7.39 per 100,000 people
#18 Zambia 7.07 per 100,000 people
#19 Costa Rica 6.10 per 100,000 people
#20 Poland 5.62 per 100,000 people
#21 Georgia 5.11 per 100,000 people
#22 Uruguay 4.52 per 100,000 people
#23 Bulgaria 4.45 per 100,000 people
#24 United States 4.28 per 100,000 people
#25 Armenia 4.25 per 100,000 people
#26 India 3.44 per 100,000 people
#27 Yemen 3.36 per 100,000 people
#28 Dominica 2.89 per 100,000 people
#29 Azerbaijan 2.85 per 100,000 people
#30 Finland 2.83 per 100,000 people
#31 Slovakia 2.63 per 100,000 people
#32 Romania 2.50 per 100,000 people
#33 Portugal 2.33 per 100,000 people
#34 Malaysia 2.30 per 100,000 people
#35 Macedonia 2.29 per 100,000 people
#36 Mauritius 2.11 per 100,000 people
#37 Hungary 2.04 per 100,000 people
#38 Korea, South 1.96 per 100,000 people
#39 Slovenia 1.79 per 100,000 people
#40 France 1.73 per 100,000 people
#41 Czech Republic 1.69 per 100,000 people
#42 Iceland 1.68 per 100,000 people
#43 Australia 1.50 per 100,000 people
#44 Canada 1.49 per 100,000 people
#45 Chile 1.47 per 100,000 people
#46 United Kingdom 1.40 per 100,000 people
#47 Italy 1.28 per 100,000 people
#48 Spain 1.22 per 100,000 people
#49 Germany 1.16 per 100,000 people
#50 Tunisia 1.12 per 100,000 people
#51 Netherlands 1.11 per 100,000 people
#52 New Zealand 1.11 per 100,000 people
#53 Denmark 1.06 per 100,000 people
#54 Norway 1.06 per 100,000 people
#55 Ireland .94 per 100,000 people
#56 Switzerland .92 per 100,000 people
#57 Indonesia .91 per 100,000 people
#58 Greece .75 per 100,000 people
#59 Hong Kong .55 per 100,000 people
#60 Japan .49 per 100,000 people

SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)
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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 10:10 am

Quoting BA757 (Reply 1):
Would be America wouldn't it with its gun laws

So you're saying that if guns were illegal here, that this kid wouldn't be able to obtain one?

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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 10:15 am

Sadly, this one ended in death for the shooter.

Not far from my home (less than two miles.)
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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 10:18 am

Quoting Redngold (Reply 11):
Sadly, this one ended in death for the shooter.

Well when you take to shooting at a cop that is one option of an ending!

Quoting Redngold (Reply 11):
Not far from my home (less than two miles.)

You live in Lakewood?
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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 10:21 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 12):

Well when you take to shooting at a cop that is one option of an ending!

Yes, but still tragic when a person dies, cop or not. This kid obviously had a major problem.

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 12):

You live in Lakewood?

Nope. Close, though.
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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 10:48 am

Yeah, near me as well. I live um, maybe 5 blocks from Redngold, and not too far from Lakewood, I go straight down W.117 and im there.
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RE: Shots Fired In Lakewood, OH; Road Closed

Thu May 04, 2006 4:23 pm

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 8):
You know you are about to get your ass flamed off for this, you do know right? I dont care how much explaining you do, you're toast.

So be it!

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 10):
So you're saying that if guns were illegal here, that this kid wouldn't be able to obtain one?

Here we go, Americans who don't have a sense of humour, did you not notice the wink  Wink ?

Read what I said here

Quoting BA757 (Reply 5):
Making it hard or illegal to own a gun isn't necessarily going to stop violent crime or murders, as generally the people who commit these crimes won't find it to hard to get hold of a weapon illegally.

I am not against in anyway American gun laws - whether they are legal or illegal, anyone who wants a gun will be able to get one in one way or another.

Quoting Redngold (Reply 11):
Sadly, this one ended in death for the shooter.

I really don't have much sympathy for him. If you start taking potshots at law enforcement, expect to get shot.

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