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UK Council Elections

Thu May 04, 2006 11:14 pm

Any bets as to the turn out? Will Labour's recent problems boost the turnout a bit?

An interesting point, this year was the first year I used a pencil to vote. Surely it can't be that difficult to equip polling stations with pens of some sort?
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RE: UK Council Elections

Thu May 04, 2006 11:23 pm

In all seriousness, I'm registered to vote so I take it the polling stations will be the same one I used in last years general election?

If so I'll take a walk.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Thu May 04, 2006 11:36 pm

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 1):
In all seriousness, I'm registered to vote so I take it the polling stations will be the same one I used in last years general election?

Yup.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Thu May 04, 2006 11:52 pm

Just England and Wales today I think, as there's been no mention of any elections north of the Border.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Thu May 04, 2006 11:54 pm

Not all of England - nothing in my region.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Thu May 04, 2006 11:56 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 3):
Just England and Wales today I think, as there's been no mention of any elections north of the Border.



Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 4):
Not all of England - nothing in my region.

Sorry yeah, only England and then only in about 4000 seats.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 2:42 am

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 4):
Not all of England - nothing in my region.

It's odd, isn't it?

Where I am there are elections in Bighton and Hove, and in Adur, but nothing for me with Horsham District Council.

Anyway, council elections are always entertaining to see the government (of whatever hue) get a spanking. Big grin
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 2:49 am

Oh dam it, I still haven't gone. I've just had a Kronenbourg instead. It's 1849 now so when do the polls close?
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 2:55 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 6):
Horsham District Council.


No elections here (I'm also HDC), the ruling junta heard of a planned uprising and had it ruthlessly crushed  Wink
 
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 3:04 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 7):
so when do the polls close

10 pm. As with every election.  Wink

Quoting Willo (Reply 8):
the ruling junta heard of a planned uprising and had it ruthlessly crushed

They're a nightmare, aren't they?

They recently came up with a fabulous little wheeze to start charging for parking in the village where I live. How to destroy a thriving community in one easy stroke.  Yeah sure Naturally, everyone, shops and residents was utterly appalled. We've still got proper shops here, because we're ten miles away from any of the towns and cities, but charge for parking, and why would anyone in the outlying districts come here rather than Burgess Hill, Brighton or Horsham? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Hopefully the unanimous opposition might have some impact, but I doubt it.

On top of that, they have the bloody cheek to charge us more council tax than the rest of the area, despite the fact we get Sweet FA from them in return.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 3:16 am

Voted, as usual.
Was I happy with who I voted for, or the alternatives?
Not really-they are ALL anti LHR expansion around here.

So the least worst option, the ones nearest to what I want.

I do not use these elections as a 'spanking' for the Government, although sometimes how you vote might end up being that by default.

What I do not expect, are councils that totally reflect what I might want.
Is that possible for anyone, 100% approval?
I think not, but I suspect that is why many do not bother.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 3:26 am

Quoting GDB (Reply 10):
I do not use these elections as a 'spanking' for the Government

Maybe, but like it or not, most people vote on national lines, not local ones. Which maybe suggests they get what they deserve.

Put it this way, Labour don't even bother to put up a candidate in my ward, and in a couple of places nearby, no alternate candidates were put forward, so there's no election. That's pretty disgraceful, both from the parties, and from a society where the general public are so divorced from proceedings that not one person is prepared to stand outside of the party apparatus.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 3:35 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 6):
there are elections in Bighton and Hove

Nothing in Hove. Called the electoral roll officer as I did not get any voting card and I was told there are no local elections. Have I missed my chance to give my verdict on Bliar, Bonking Fatty Prescott, Totally Useless Clarke and the others imbeciles?
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 3:45 am

Brian Reade of the Daily Mirror.

Quote:
FIRST we had David Cameron zooming around the world trying to convince us he's greener than Kermit after a roll in the grass.

Now we've got Tory party chairman Francis Maude urging us to pee on our compost to help the environment.

Can I suggest if a Tory candidate knocks on your door spouting on about green issues you forget about the compost and pee all over them. It may not save the planet but it will save you smacking them in the mouth and being arrested for assault.

 Wink
 
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 3:48 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 11):
That's pretty disgraceful, both from the parties, and from a society where the general public are so divorced from proceedings that not one person is prepared to stand outside of the party apparatus.

Then there must be something to be said for compulsory voting (like here) because you can guarantee that the two major parties at least will put candidates up in Local, State, and Federal elections (then again there may not be much to say for compulsory voting when we have so many Pollies and so many levels of Government for such a small population) (latter part said in a Churchillian manner).

By the way did Neil (or whatever his name is) from the "7Up" series get re-elected?

Quoting Banco (Reply 9):
Burgess Hill, Brighton or Horsham

Careful giving out any form of triangulation. Old Bomber crews might not be able to resist targetting where you live. (That's about a 12 km radius isn't it? Wonder what Mt warhead that would require?)
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 4:22 am

Quoting TSV (Reply 14):
Then there must be something to be said for compulsory voting

Well, there are pros and cons with that. Allowing people to be apathetic is in many ways important too. I've never really liked the idea overly much, but I know others do.

Quoting TSV (Reply 14):
Careful giving out any form of triangulation. Old Bomber crews might not be able to resist targetting where you live. (That's about a 12 km radius isn't it? Wonder what Mt warhead that would require?)

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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 4:42 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 15):
My dear chap. I am so important that two Tornados are permanently stationed above Banco Towers to ensure that all undesirables are kept away from the estate.

Surely Mrs Banco must let you in occasionally?  Silly
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 4:45 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 15):
Banco Towers

Is that anything like Fawlty Towers (or is that Watery Fowls?)
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 4:51 am

Quoting Banco (Reply 15):
My dear chap. I am so important that two Tornados are permanently stationed above Banco Towers to ensure that all undesirables are kept away from the estate

Also known as Belmarsh.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 4:57 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 18):
Also known as Belmarsh.

Poor, just poor .......
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 5:02 am

Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 19):
Poor, just poor .......

Yes, but enough about your financial status
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 5:06 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 20):
Yes, but enough about your financial status

Isn't that pot and kettle?  Yeah sure
 
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 5:08 am

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 21):
Isn't that pot and kettle? Yeah sure

Pick a windae ye Blackpool fool (I'll be back down there in a few weeks time for 4 days  Wink )
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 5:12 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 20):
Yes, but enough about your financial status

If only you could begin to comprehend the truth about my current financial status ....  Wink
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 4:17 pm

A grim night for Tony Blair sees Labour lose more than 250 councillors - with the Tories making big gains and The British National Party doubles its councillors - with its biggest gains in Barking and Dagenham.
 
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 4:36 pm

Excellent night for the Tories with Labour loosing their grip and the Liberals showing no real signs of making any headway.

Trying to blame a week of bad media attention won't wash, the headlines have come about because of Labour failings and having courted the media for over 9 years Labour are finally finding out how what it is like to get negative media coverage.

Still a long way to go but with 3/4 years to the next election UK politics is finally becoming a contest again.

Time for a cabinet reshuffle now, the day after the elections, panicking Labour rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic.
 
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 4:41 pm

Banco,

"They recently came up with a fabulous little wheeze to start charging for parking in the village where I live."

Juts out of interest which village in Horsham District Council do you live in?

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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 5:01 pm

Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 16):
Surely Mrs Banco must let you in occasionally?

She's usually out and about ministering to the tenants and serfs.  snooty 
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 5:27 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 27):
She's usually out and about ministering to the tenants and serfs.

Yes, I gather Kirkie can be hard work at the best of times ...  Smile
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 5:30 pm

Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 28):
Yes, I gather Kirkie can be hard work at the best of times ...

When he shows up, all she has to do is direct the peasants with their pitchforks. They're quite keen to chase him away, as apparently when he comes within 15 miles the crops start dying off.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 5:31 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 27):
She's usually out and about ministering to the tenants and serfs. snooty

See, that's one of the things that annoys me most. People that are snobs  Wink
So from this moment on, Banco, we are at war!



Anyway, trust everyone that voted used their vote sensibly?
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 5:32 pm

Excellent news for the Conservatives, although I believe that they have lost Richmond Upon Thames to the Liberals. The Conservatives had around 40% of the vote, whilst the Liberal Democrats share was 27% and Labour 26%.

Anyway.. Well done Mr Cameron & The Conservative Party!   

I hope these council elections are a sign of things to come  

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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 5:33 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 30):
So from this moment on, Banco, we are at war!

I suspect it'll be Vietnam all over again, after all Kirkie, you drink the same crap as the yanks, one can imagine your un-assisted war will be just as succesful ....  Silly
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 5:40 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 30):
See, that's one of the things that annoys me most. People that are snobs

Snobs? Good heavens man, she works extremely hard to allow the likes of yourself to write an "X" at the bottom of the contract giving me all profits. Have you any idea how demeaning it is to have to associate with the peasantry? But we still do it. Selflessness is taken to a new level by the likes of us.  snooty 

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 30):
So from this moment on, Banco, we are at war!

Oh dear. Does that mean we'll have to get the Gatling Gun out again? I do so hate it when that happens. It makes such a mess on the lawn.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 5:41 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 33):
Snobs? Good heavens man, she works extremely hard to allow the likes of yourself to write an "X" at the bottom of the contract giving me all profits. Have you any idea how demeaning it is to have to associate with the peasantry? But we still do it. Selflessness is taken to a new level by the likes of us. snooty



Quoting Banco (Reply 33):

Oh dear. Does that mean we'll have to get the Gatling Gun out again? I do so hate it when that happens. It makes such a mess on the lawn.

 rotfl  rotfl 
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 6:35 pm

Charles Clarke has been sacked from the govermnent, Mr Blair said only a few days ago that Clarke shouldnt be sacked and should stay to sort the problems out now, either Clarke has sorted all the Home Office problems already or Blair simply lied to ride the storm before the local elections, I know why he did what he did but it is another example of how Blair has had his time and no one can trust what he says
 
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 7:31 pm

These results are good news for the British people. Looks like people have finally got wise to Blair and 9 years of pure bullshit.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 7:40 pm

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 36):
These results are good news for the British people. Looks like people have finally got wise to Blair and 9 years of pure bullshit.

Still better than 18 years of Conservative crap.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 8:44 pm

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 36):
Looks like people have finally got wise to Blair and 9 years of pure bullshit.



Quoting Myt332 (Reply 37):
Still better than 18 years of Conservative crap.

If there's one certainty, it's that we all hate the government - always.  Wink
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RE: UK Council Elections

Fri May 05, 2006 8:56 pm

Oh crap, I didn't get around to voting last night and now Chorley is back to being Conservative. Shit.

Let this be a lesson to people.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Sat May 06, 2006 12:17 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 39):
Oh crap, I didn't get around to voting last night

Me neither. This was going to be the first year I ever voted too, and I forgot !!.

Oh well - it makes no difference to me. They are all a bunch of lying cheating out for themselves bunch ot t*ats who will shaft us for everything they can anyway !!.

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RE: UK Council Elections

Sat May 06, 2006 2:20 am

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 40):
They are all a bunch of lying cheating out for themselves bunch ot t*ats who will shaft us for everything they can anyway !!.

The sad thing is, most of them aren't. Sure, you do get the usual charlatans who are out for themselves, but most politicians are (at least at the outset) people who think they can improve the lot of country. You do have to ask yourself whether the kind of person who believes he or she can make everything better for everyone else is necessarily the kind of person you want running things, but it's really rather sad how cynical the public are these days - especially given the fact (and it is a fact) that corruption remains very low here.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Sun May 07, 2006 12:53 am

Indeed Banco, if we think that politicians should be hammered for being not very good at running things, doing things in general, then that also goes for corruption. Almost always very minor, that is not to compare with some despot in Africa, but to other democratic nations much closer to home.

Blair was losing authority fast before this, another botched reshuffle won't do more than buy very little extra time either.
However, though Wilson had worse results in 1968-then lost the 1970 election.
The Tories had bad results and loads of other problems before Thatcher got the push from the back in 1990-Major went on to win in 1992.
The Tories had the worst ever meltdown in the mid 90's, which was reflected in the 1997 election.
But, Labour did badly too in 2004, what was the result of the last election in 2005?
It can mean everything, or very little.

As for the Home Office, until they separate out the Justice part of this huge ministry-which no one has attempted before, the recent sort of problems will come up again.
As well as stopping this idea that more leglisation, (and hopefully good headlines), will solve anything. I think the reverse is true if anything.

Beckett to the Foreign Office-surprise there. Straw had however painted himself into a corner with comments on Iran. Had courted Brown maybe a bit too much.
But Beckett, has a history on the left. However, this woman in her mid 60's, first a minister under Callaghan in the 70's, has been a quietly effective, problem free minister.

Rice, her US counterpart, was taken by surprise, No more trips to Northern England for her. (Reckon she'll fancy going on a modest caravan holiday with Mr and Mrs Beckett)?
 
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RE: UK Council Elections

Sun May 07, 2006 5:10 am

Oh please.

It was a disastrous night for Labour by all accounts. Labour now has an ironic mandate for renewal, and fast.

The public voted against Labour. They did not vote for the Con-men. They voted against a government they did not like. They voted against a dislikeable figurehead. They voted against a government that has given the country the longest period of economic growth and stability on record. They voted against a government that has given the public better public services since 1997 and has a clear plan of remedies for further improvement.

The largest opposition party does not have any policies for people to vote for. Their leader shrouds himself in different colours as a thinly veiled attempt of hiding the fact that he is fake. And let's not forget that he wrote the losing manifesto in the last election and he wants to be leader of the country?

Oh please.
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RE: UK Council Elections

Sun May 07, 2006 7:23 pm

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 43):
The public voted against Labour. They did not vote for the Con-men.

Governments always lose power. Oppositions never win. If you think that people voted in Labour in 1997 because they were in love with their policies, you're sadly mistaken. People voted in Labour to get rid of the Tories. At some point in the future, whether it's the next election or the one after, the same thing will happen in reverse.

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 43):
Their leader shrouds himself in different colours as a thinly veiled attempt of hiding the fact that he is fake.

The irony of Labour attacking Cameron on this basis seems to be lost on you. It didn't work for Major's Tories in 1997, and I very much doubt it will work for Labour now and in the future.
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