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What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 8:01 am

I am currently station on a Nimitz class carrier and I wanted to know where we rank on sizewice among other ships. I know the Nimitz class aircraft carrier are the worlds largest war ships and until the late 90's was the second largest ships in the world. Time has change and passenger ships and container ships has begone to out size us. So what are the four biggest type of ships in the world. I think it is Tanker, Passengers Ships, container ships and US aircraft carriers meaning Nimitz class, Enterprise class, Kitty Hawk class and John F. Kennedy class, so is am I right.

PS: US aircraft carriers are still the widest ships in the world, well at least at the flight deck.
 
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 8:12 am

Jahre Viking is the world's largest ship:
http://www.dxman.com/undir/big-ship/jahre%20viking.htm
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 8:15 am

Nice place to work... in ops or keeping the bloody thing alive?

I don't think you can classify ships like that; they're too custom-built to be classifiable. I think the four largest ships, tonnage wise, in the world would all have to be ULCCs (ultra large crude carriers). Other than that there are lots of specialised tankers such as chemicals tankers that are smaller in size but can still wreak bigger mayhem if they sink; so in a way, they count more.

Container ships have grown to mega-size as well, but then again there are feeders carrying containers from smaller ports to the big ones such as Hamburg or Singapore.

The USS Nimitz is small change compared to ULCCs that can easily reach three or four times its displacement - but when you consider her range, the Nimitz is second to (almost) none.

Ships are a highly diverse and very fascinating field, much less classifiable than aircraft. For every task you can imagine in the world, there's a ship - such as animal carriers built for the purpose of transporting sheep from New Zealand to the Persian Gulf.
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 9:22 am

Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
I know the Nimitz class aircraft carrier are the worlds largest war ships and until the late 90's was the second largest ships in the world.

Aren't the Wasp class larger!
But no passenger ship is larger, the only thing is probobaly an oil tanker.
 
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 9:32 am

Quoting BA747YYZ (Reply 3):
But no passenger ship is larger

Wikipedia says the Freedom of the Seas has a tonnage of 158,000 compared to a displacement of up to 104,000 tons for the Nimitz... I don't think the tons used are the same though, the Nimitz is probably still larger.
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 9:40 am

Quoting BA747YYZ (Reply 3):
Aren't the Wasp class larger!

Huh?

Not even close.

USS Wasp LHD-1:
Length: 844 feet (253.2 meters)
Beam: 106 feet (31.8 meters) at waterline, 200 feet w/flight deck elevators extended
Draft: 27 feet Maximum (Full Load), 36 feet at the stern [ballasted]
Displacement: Approx. 40,500 tons (36,450 metric tons) full load

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USS Ronald Reagan:
Length overall: 1,092 feet (332.85 meters)
Beam: 134 feet (40.84 meters)
Draft: 38,4 feet (11.7 meters)
Displacement: approx. 100,000 tons full load

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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 9:41 am

I would have said

1. Super Tankers
2. Large Bulk Carriers
3. Super Carriers
4. Large Passenger Ships

at a guess.

Quoting BA747YYZ (Reply 3):
Aren't the Wasp class larger!

Certainly not in L,W,D dimensions as far as I am aware.
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 9:49 am

Quoting BA747YYZ (Reply 3):
Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
I know the Nimitz class aircraft carrier are the worlds largest war ships and until the late 90's was the second largest ships in the world.

Aren't the Wasp class larger!

Wasp is 40k ton category, much smaller. Still the second largest aircraft carriers afloat (or 3rd depending on how you measure against the CDG).
Well, if you measure strength versus size then you'd have to say that the Nimitz is the baddest surface ship in history.
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 9:55 am

the wasp is a baby.

what is the Jahre Viking used to transport? Who made it? Is it just a Super Super Tanker?


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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 10:05 am

Does anyone ever remember the Army floating the idea of basing AH-64 Apaches on naval anphib ships, such as the Wasp, when there were no suitable land bases? What ever happened with that? In fact, I remember playing a computer game based on the Apache where the missions flown over Yemen were based off of the USS Tarawa.

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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 10:19 am

http://www.hapag-lloyd.com/en/fleet/vessels_20628.html

http://www.shipmentlink.com/tvi1/jsp...I1_VesselParticulars.jsp?carrier=E

One is a class of ship, the other a whole fleet; these behemoths are busy transporting our consumer goods across the seas 24/7/52.
 
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 10:23 am

"...a freakin' air deck painted on the tarmac..."

Well, it worked for Jimmy Doolittle and his boys  Smile

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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 10:50 am

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 9):
Does anyone ever remember the Army floating the idea of basing AH-64 Apaches on naval anphib ships, such as the Wasp, when there were no suitable land bases? What ever happened with that? In fact, I remember playing a computer game based on the Apache where the missions flown over Yemen were based off of the USS Tarawa.

Well when we invaded Afghanistan that is exactly what they did with the USS Constellation.

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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 10:53 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 4):
Wikipedia says the Freedom of the Seas has a tonnage of 158,000 compared to a displacement of up to 104,000 tons for the Nimitz... I don't think the tons used are the same though, the Nimitz is probably still larger.

Well, that holds 4000 passengers, and a carrier has to hold 5000 people plus airplanes, etc...
 
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 12:38 pm

Quoting DL021 (Reply 7):
you'd have to say that the Nimitz is the baddest surface ship in history

I would have given that distinction to the USS Missouri.
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 3:38 pm

Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Big

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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 3:47 pm

Quoting Stirling (Reply 14):
I would have given that distinction to the USS Missouri.

While the Big Mo is certainly an impressive piece of armament - if you haven't crawled through her at Pearl you're missing a treat - she pales in comparison to the destructive power of a Nimitz class carrier . . .

One aircraft aboard Nimitz - an attack aircraft, not the COD  wink  - has an much firepower slung under the wings as a WW2 Destroyer . . . now if that ain't some serious whoopass, I don't know what is.

As for large passenger ships, Freedom of the Seas, recently launched is a behemoth at 158K tons. . . however, her owner company RCI (Royal Caribbean) has contracted with Aker Shipyard for a cruise ship to weigh in at a very impressive 220,000 tons. . . . to be delivered in the fall of 2009. That will be - if launched - the largest passenger or military vessel afloat in terms of persons aboard and weight. There are cargo ships that continue to surpass this newbuild however.

Links below . . . good info on ships.

http://www.maritimematters.com/dakeslist.html
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 5:07 pm

Quoting DL021 (Reply 7):
Wasp is 40k ton category, much smaller. Still the second largest aircraft carriers afloat (or 3rd depending on how you measure against the CDG).

Which they'll presumably lose on completion of the two new 50-60,000 ton British carriers scheduled for 2012-15.
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 5:38 pm

The Nimitz class, while VERY badass, cannot compare with the sheer destructive capacity of the Ohio-class ballistic-missile submarine.

IIRC, a stat I'd once heard is that a single Ohio class SSBN alone constitutes the third or fourth most powerful arsenal on the planet.
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Fri May 05, 2006 11:58 pm

Quoting BA747YYZ (Reply 3):
Aren't the Wasp class larger!

No.

Quoting Stirling (Reply 14):
Quoting DL021 (Reply 7):
you'd have to say that the Nimitz is the baddest surface ship in history

I would have given that distinction to the USS Missouri.

I'm not too far off from agreeing with you, at least as far as appearances go.
Until the USS Enterprise was built, the largest surface ship/carrier was the Shinano, a 68,059 ton Japanese aircraft carrier in WWII. It was due to be the third ship in the battleship Yamato class (Yamato and Musashi). Due to the demise of the Akagi, Kaga, Hiryu and Soryu at Midway, Japan was forced to speed up conversion of her to an aircraft carrier to help offset some of the loss. The Shinano was on her way to Kure to receive her air wing when the USS Archerfish torpedoed her to the bottom. The U.S. didn't even have knowledge of her existence until after the war when they were able to review Japanese military records. So until that time they only credited Archerfish's skipper with sinking a really big Maru.
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Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 18):
The Nimitz class, while VERY badass, cannot compare with the sheer destructive capacity of the Ohio-class ballistic-missile submarine.

IIRC, a stat I'd once heard is that a single Ohio class SSBN alone constitutes the third or fourth most powerful arsenal on the planet.

Consider the bomb dropped on Hiroshima had app. a 20 kiloton yield. Consider one warhead on one D-5 missile has an app. 450+ kiloton yield. As was the case on my last boat, USS Pennsylvania (SSBN-735)(Blue), you have the capability to carry up to 24 missiles. Due to START treaty limitations (and let me tell you those START inspections are a b@^!&*@(*&$!*) you don't even have the maximum of 10 the D5 was designed to carry. So on any given day, you may or may not have a sub patrolling Davy Jones' Locker with a combined firepower total of 10.8 MEGAtons of yield. The only boats that came close, and if I remember right, exceeded those numbers were the Typhoons and Delta IVs (not sure about Delta IIIs) of Russia/former USSR. The Typhoons only carried 20 weapons but their warheads were bigger. I couldn't tell you what their performance was like.

On my second patrol when I was on USS Ohio (SSBN [now SSGN] 726)(Gold) we did an FCET (Follow on Commander-In-Chiefs Evaluation Test) where we got to launch 4 dummy missiles. It was a rather unique experience since I was on a missile tube team. The force from one of those gas generators that pushes the bird out of the tube is so great that the submarine actually buckles in the middle. Imagine sitting in your seat bouncing up and down for about 5 seconds or so while the missile leaves the tube (and water fills its spot).
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Sat May 06, 2006 12:32 am

Quoting Aloges (Reply 2):
For every task you can imagine in the world, there's a ship

So somewhere in the world there is a ship just full of beautiful naked women waiting to fullfill your every fantasy !!!.

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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Sat May 06, 2006 12:37 am

Believe it or not when we passed by USS Kersage LHD 3 and it was sitting taller than us, but we was still much longer and wider so Wasp class could be taller. The reason the Nimitz class is so light for there size is because of that giant hanger bay. When I walk though my ship hanger bay feel like walking though a giant ware house.
 
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Sat May 06, 2006 12:48 am

One interesting thing is that the huge tankers, container ships and bulk carriers are largely automated and operated with very small crews, maybe 20 or 25 at most.
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Sat May 06, 2006 1:00 am

Quoting LY7E7 (Reply 1):
Jahre Viking is the world's largest ship:
http://www.dxman.com/undir/big-ship/...g.htm

Did anybody look towards the bottom of that page? That ship would be insane if it's ever built. Take a look at the homepage

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 8):
what is the Jahre Viking used to transport?

Oil.

The cargo of oil she normally carries is worth $122 million ! separated from the sea by just 3.5cm's of steel plate
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Sat May 06, 2006 3:44 am

This is all fantasy/wishlist stuff I'm about to say, but what I think would be neat is to recommision/build an Iowa class battleship, nuke powered that would serve as a "Naval Ambassador". Send it to "certain areas" and tell them that we have lolly pops and butt whoopin's on board, but we're fresh out of lolly pops.  Wink
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Sat May 06, 2006 3:54 am

Anyone wanna tell me what the hell the point of this thing is?

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Sat May 06, 2006 4:25 am

I would not be too happy in Fog on the upper deck appartments when a gulfsteam had a nav failure  Smile
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Sat May 06, 2006 4:28 am

Quoting Boeing Nut (Reply 24):
but what I think would be neat is to recommision/build an Iowa class battleship, nuke powered that would serve as a "Naval Ambassador". Send it to "certain areas" and tell them that we have lolly pops and butt whoopin's on board, but we're fresh out of lolly pops.

Like a gunboat you mean? Been there, done that.  Wink
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Sat May 06, 2006 7:14 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 25):
Anyone wanna tell me what the hell the point of this thing is?

Who knows. That thing must be real slow. It makes it around the world once every 2 years. Imagine what will happen when a massive wave hits it.

The premium suits will cost $44 000 000!!! They say it has 100 acres of outdoor park. Where exactly would that go?
 
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Sat May 06, 2006 7:34 am

Used to see the VLCCs Stena Vision and the Stena Victory tied up at Hog Island, close abeam KPHL. At about 313000 deadweight tons they were pretty damn large.

On final you could see them, the BB New Jersey and the SS United States all at the same time. You could have sailed the latter two inside the tanks of the VLCCs.

Something like 265' beam and maybe 1300' long. From port to starboard on the docking bridge looked like a long-distance phone call!

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Sat May 06, 2006 8:15 am

I don't know all the names of the largest ships, but I do know that we see all them here in Hamburg on a regular basis . The Freedom of the Seas was here not too long ago, and the QM2 will be in Hamburg this weekend again. Not to mention all the freighter ships we get.

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Sat May 06, 2006 8:43 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 25):
Anyone wanna tell me what the hell the point of this thing is?

Here's that answer. I saw this about a year ago . . .

18,000 living units, with prices in the range of $180,000 to $2.5 million, including a small number of premium suites currently priced up to $44 million.
3,000 commercial units in a similar price range
2,400 time-share units
10,000 hotel units
A World Class Casino
A ferryboat transportation system that provides departures every 15 minutes, 24 hours a day, to 3 or more local cities giving ship residents access to the local neighborhood and up to 30,000 land-based residents a chance to spend a day on the ship.
Airport
A World-Class Medical Facility practicing Western and Eastern medicine as well as preventive and anti-aging medicine.
A School System that gives the students a chance to take a field trip into a different Country each week for academic purposes or to compete with local schools in numerous sporting events.
An International Trade Center that gives on-board companies and shops the opportunity to show and sell their products in a different Country each week.
More than 100 acres of outdoor Park, Recreation, Exercise and Community space for the enjoyment of residents and visitors.


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Sat May 06, 2006 8:50 am

Okay... screw living on a ship... screw vacationing on a ship of that size (no beaches, nowhere to stop, it's just steel on the ocean).. and screw landing on it. 5,000 ft. runway won't bring much but biz jets. Seems like a waste to me!  boggled 
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Sat May 06, 2006 9:08 am

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 20):
So somewhere in the world there is a ship just full of beautiful naked women waiting to fullfill your every fantasy !!!.

Erm... as nice as it might seem, don't you realise they'd all be arguing with the captain where to take them for shoe shopping?  duck 
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Sat May 06, 2006 2:45 pm

Quoting N766UA (Reply 25):
Anyone wanna tell me what the hell the point of this thing is?

Terrorism target.



And how about the fastest of the big ships? Nimitz class, the Enterprise (once said to outrun an Akula Big grin ), SS United States...?
 
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Sat May 06, 2006 3:07 pm

And another thing: Just how is a gargantuan barge supposed to be seaworthy? I wouldn't want to be on that Freedom Ship thing, especially when it was traversing a long stretch of ocean, like the North Atlantic or across the Pacific to Alaska.
 
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Sat May 06, 2006 3:31 pm

Is there any difference in the size of the US aircraft carriers? I have heard that USS Enterprise should be the biggest one. Is this true? Also, if true, what is the difference compared to the other aircraft carriers?
 
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Sat May 06, 2006 4:02 pm

Quoting Aloges (Reply 2):
such as animal carriers built for the purpose of transporting sheep from New Zealand to the Persian Gulf.

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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Sat May 06, 2006 5:04 pm

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 19):
The Shinano was on her way to Kure to receive her air wing when the USS Archerfish torpedoed her to the bottom. The U.S. didn't even have knowledge of her existence until after the war when they were able to review Japanese military records. So until that time they only credited Archerfish's skipper with sinking a really big Maru.

Add a bit to this the USS Archer-Fish (two words with hyphen) sinking of the Shinano was put out as a paperback called "SEA ASSAULT" although it had originally been released as the "Shinano". Short story is that it took 6 MK-14 torpedos to do the job. Those six hits would have been the first clue that they where shooting at something big. They had intended to fire with a 150 percent spread-meaning the torpedos where time to cover an area 150% the size of the target. Since all six shots hit, it could be assumed that the size of the vessel was mis-estimated since the timing of the shot worked out.

The attack occured at night and the crew could only make out the silloete of the ship on the horizing. They new they had a carrier but with the weird lines of the ship-the shape of the bow and the sloped funnel, they wheren't sure what ship they where looking at. So the captain made a quick schech of what he was viewing in the periscope.


When the Archer-fish got back to Pearl, navel intel didn't belive a carrier was at the location so tried to award the sub a cruiser since there had been some intel that a new one was transiting the area. Those drawings made throught the periscope conviced navel intel that they had gotten a 28,000 ton carrier. It wasn't until after the war that estimates of the ships weights put it in the correct 65,000 to 70,000 ton range....The larges submarine kill in history.
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Sat May 06, 2006 5:35 pm

Quoting Greyhound (Reply 19):
you may or may not have a sub patrolling Davy Jones' Locker with a combined firepower total of 10.8 MEGAtons of yield.

Which is still itself only a tiny fraction of the power of perhaps mankind's most utterly stupid, destructive, and, ummmm... kinda cool inventions- the Tsar Bomba. That one single bomb was rated at a potential yield of 100 megatons (!!!!), but when it was dropped from a Tu95 the Soviet engineers replaced the 3rd stage with lead to reduce the fallout levels and protect the drop plane, meaning the detonation was "only" 57 megatons (for reference, the largest ever US test was 15 megatons)... a cool fact about the bomb is that it was by far the single most powerful device ever designed or used by human beings... All I can say is, thank god we have yet to use any of these cold war monstrosities in any real conflict, but their sheer power does leave one with a sense of awe and fascination.

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 20):
So somewhere in the world there is a ship just full of beautiful naked women waiting to fullfill your every fantasy !!!.

Maybe not, but if you've ever seen those damn girls gone wild commercials that run every 5 minutes, there IS an island full of hot young girls, ready to battle it out for your viewing pleasure  Wink
 
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Sun May 07, 2006 7:10 am

AirPacific747

The USS Enterprise is larger but a Nimitz class is heaver.

PS:The USS Enterprise was moorded right next to us and I did not see much size differce. Since it look a little narrower at the water line but it inland is bigger.
 
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Tue May 09, 2006 1:51 am

I know as far as shipping Hapag-Lloyd's fleet is very impressive.

http://www.hapag-lloyd.com/en/fleet/vessels.html
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Tue May 09, 2006 2:02 am

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 40):
AirPacific747

The USS Enterprise is larger but a Nimitz class is heaver.

PS:The USS Enterprise was moorded right next to us and I did not see much size differce. Since it look a little narrower at the water line but it inland is bigger.

thanks! I would love to go and see what it is like to be onboard that massive ship!
 
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Tue May 09, 2006 2:32 am

All those ships may be big, but do they look as good as this one? Big grin

http://www.airliners.net/uf/536903324/1147108877EMhPuh.jpg
 
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RE: What Are The Four Biggest Type Of Ships

Tue May 09, 2006 2:37 am

Well I still haven't seen anything even approaching the three hundred and thirteen thousand tons of the VLCCs mentioned in reply #29. These are roughly three times the size of the largest aircraft carriers or nearly seven times the size of the RMS Titanic or four times the size of the QM2.

My nephew did a trip or two on another ship at three hundred sixty-five thousand tons but I cannot locate it and he is at sea and I can't ask him.
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