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F1 : Spanish GP

Fri May 12, 2006 2:56 pm

So it's high time Alonso returned to his winning ways and what better way to try and do it than on his home soil !

Montagny is back for another two races and McLaren is hoping to get it finally right.

Thoughts ?

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Fri May 12, 2006 3:01 pm

Alonso will have the home field advantage, and considering that Michael has been very strong in Imola and Nürburg, I can only say it'll be a very tight race.
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Fri May 12, 2006 3:45 pm

Bah.. I don't know whats going to happen. Ideally it would be nice if McLaren can get it togeather, but I'm beginning to have my doubts.
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Fri May 12, 2006 4:41 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 1):
Alonso will have the home field advantage

How can you have a "Home track advantage"? as they were saying on the show last week that a track is a track and theres no such thing as a hime track advantage.
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Fri May 12, 2006 5:47 pm

SCHUUUUUMIIII!!!!

I think the home advantage of Alonso will be minimal, because all F1 teams use the circuit in Barcelona for training, so everybody knows this circuit perfectly... And we all know that Schumi is the better driver  Wink
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Fri May 12, 2006 5:52 pm

Time for Schumi to make it a hattrick Big grin . Would be the perfect scenario: Schumi clearly beats Alonso on his home turf, and as a result, Alonso will go berserk again and b!tch about how crappy of a team Renault has become  Wink .
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Fri May 12, 2006 6:44 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 5):
Alonso will go berserk again and b!tch about how crappy of a team Renault has become

But they haven't all they've done is stumbled a little... Alonso still leads Schumacher by quite a lead in the points grid...If schumacher is going to start winning again (and wins this race as well) then Alonso just needs to keep a hold of second until Renault find their footing... I'm not the biggest fan of either driver.

I'm actually starting to think Rosberg could take podium at this race. After his last performance at the Nurburgring from 22 to 5th... (alright he finished 7th but only due to multiple pit stopping so tactics need working on)
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Fri May 12, 2006 7:40 pm

I also think Schumacher will win this time... An important factor will be the weather, though. We had some rain tonight and the track was wet today so the training sessions was very slow. I hope it gets better by Sunday.
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Fri May 12, 2006 9:05 pm

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 6):
I'm actually starting to think Rosberg could take podium at this race. After his last performance at the Nurburgring from 22 to 5th... (alright he finished 7th but only due to multiple pit stopping so tactics need working on)

He had a similar performance, in Malaysia I believe, starting last and end up as 7th as well. That guy definitely has potential and a good team behind him, but seems he needs to start in the back of the field to have a good result  Wink .
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Fri May 12, 2006 11:20 pm

Schumi will win, of course Big grin

Should be a good battle between Ferrari and Renault. Let's hope Fisi messes up and Massa doesn't, and Ferrari collects good constructor points.  Wink
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sat May 13, 2006 12:30 am

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 9):
Schumi will win, of course

Should be a good battle between Ferrari and Renault. Let's hope Fisi messes up and Massa doesn't, and Ferrari collects good constructor points.

 yes 

I also hope that Montagny will have a better race (and a proper qualification) so he can show his talent. Ok, you can't do much in a Super Aguri but Sato has at times managed to challenge the more established teams.
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sat May 13, 2006 3:58 am

I also hope Schuey wins, nothing better than wiping the smile off Alonso's face by winning in his "home circuit"

Let's see tomorrow how the Qualifying session ends and then make some predictions.

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sat May 13, 2006 5:19 am

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 6):
I'm actually starting to think Rosberg could take podium at this race

Dude your right, if Rosberg doesnt win this race he almost certainly will by the end of the year, he is a stunningly fast driver for his young career in F1.

GO SCHUMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sat May 13, 2006 5:20 am

The new tire changing policy definitely put Ferrari (/Bridgestone) back to the front line of the discipline, and once the red dragon is back to spitting flames, with schumi at the controls and Jean Todt running Ops , I fail to see how's to properly compete...
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sat May 13, 2006 6:01 am

Quoting Francoflier (Reply 13):
I fail to see how's to properly compete...

You compete for 2nd place, not 1st Big grin

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 11):
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sat May 13, 2006 2:10 pm

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 12):
Dude your right, if Rosberg doesnt win this race he almost certainly will by the end of the year, he is a stunningly fast driver for his young career in F1

The kid is fast but he still has heaps to learn. Pace alone dosn't win races. I expect he will win, but you'd be a brave man to bet on it happening this year.

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 3):
How can you have a "Home track advantage"?

Its the intangible things such as knowing the fans are there supporting you. Look around the circuit I think you'll see alot of support for Fernando. It's purely in the head.

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 9):
Should be a good battle between Ferrari and Renault. Let's hope Fisi messes up and Massa doesn't, and Ferrari collects good constructor points

I think there a better chance of it being the other way around. Massa's erratic all or nothing driving style is doing him no favours. He's only in a Ferrari by chance.

Quoting Francoflier (Reply 13):
The new tire changing policy definitely put Ferrari (/Bridgestone) back to the front line of the discipline, and once the red dragon is back to spitting flames, with schumi at the controls and Jean Todt running Ops , I fail to see how's to properly compete...

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sat May 13, 2006 7:08 pm

It's really hard to predict right now. We should wait for official qualifying session and even that means very little.

At the moment, it is really hard for me to believe that McLaren or Honda could do something spectacular in Spain today.
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sat May 13, 2006 9:11 pm

Red flag had stopped first session, due to DC accident, session started @ 1:11.

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sat May 13, 2006 11:16 pm

Renault front row, Alonso P1, Fisi P2.

McLaren didn't fare to well KR is P9 JPM is P12.

Bah...
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sat May 13, 2006 11:27 pm

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 14):
I think that honor belongs to me, Sir

Very well then sir! LOL

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sun May 14, 2006 8:06 am

An all Renault front row, but like they say, "It's how you finish that counts!" Alonso will finish on the podium, but probably not first.  checkeredflag  Doesn't Schumi has a fresh engine this weekend? Also, please tell me this isn't another CBS televised race here in the U.S.! They are terrible.  thumbsdown  I could not find the race on www.speedtv.com

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sun May 14, 2006 8:22 am

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 20):
Doesn't Schumi has a fresh engine this weekend?

Yes, but this is the last race for Alonso's engine. So Renault will probably allow him a few more revs as they know he will have a new engine next race regardless.
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sun May 14, 2006 9:34 am

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 20):
Also, please tell me this isn't another CBS televised race here in the U.S.! They are terrible.

Unfortunately it is  banghead 

The commentary is absolute trash, and the tape delay only makes it worse.  Sad

MS has more fuel on board than Alonso...let's hope MS gets ahead of Fisi (who is on the dirty side of the track) at the start, so that he doesn't have to be stuck behind him.

Tomorrow should be fun, expect for the absolutely useless CBS coverage.
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sun May 14, 2006 11:02 pm

OK, Alonso won and I congratulate him.  bigthumbsup 

Enough of fair-play from me. I feel like  cry   cry   cry   hissyfit   hissyfit   hissyfit 

Can someone tell me when will little Spaniard learn who the daddy is and not to interfere anymore like he did today?  Angry
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sun May 14, 2006 11:21 pm

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 23):
Can someone tell me when will little Spaniard learn who the daddy is and not to interfere anymore like he did today?

What do you mean? I think he did a wonderful race today, he just vanished in front. Hard for me to say this but I congratulate him..... I think King Juan Carlos is more of a Schuey fan, you could tell on the Podium he was chatting to Schuey more than to Alonso.

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Sun May 14, 2006 11:31 pm

Well, I guess a congrats to Alonso is in place. Great race by him and the team. Still not too dissapointed by Schumi's 2nd place. It proves yet again that the team is there, competitive and a real threat to Alonso. What is very dissapointing is the performance of the McLarens. i thought this seasn could go 3 ways, having Alonso, Schumi and Kimi fighting each race, but it seems it will be between Alonso and Schumi only.

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 12:52 am

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 23):
Can someone tell me when will little Spaniard learn who the daddy is and not to interfere anymore like he did today?

When he finishes 18 seconds in advance of Schumi, Alonso didn't interfered, he just gave a lesson of how to drive a F1. great race for the "little spaniard"! He's an amazing driver, and I really think that this year he will win another time the World Championship!
The race of today clearly showed that Renault and Ferrari are miles away the other teams...
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 1:11 am

Ok, congratulations to Alonso... I think today we saw the only worthy opponent to Schumi driving in front...

This will continue to be a very interesting season. Without doubt, Alonso has the edge, but there are still many races to come... I am looking forward to the next races...
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 2:12 am

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 24):



Quoting Rmcf (Reply 26):

Come on guys, it was only a joke. Let the fastest win. I mean Schumi  Silly
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 3:56 am

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 22):
Unfortunately it is

The commentary is absolute trash, and the tape delay only makes it worse.

- Another terrible broadcast. When they showed the press conference at the end of the race, they didn't even show Fisichella's comments or Alonso's final comments!  thumbsdown 

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 25):
What is very dissapointing is the performance of the McLarens.

- This could be JPM's last season with McLarens. Kimi's ride is pretty safe as long as he keeps getting points every race (Sepang is the only race he did not finish in the points)  checkeredflag 

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 4:12 am

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 29):
Another terrible broadcast. When they showed the press conference at the end of the race, they didn't even show Fisichella's comments or Alonso's final comments!

It is pretty sad when the best part of the commentary is when they shut up and let the engine sound play for about a minute and a half.

After seeing what's his name go through the pea gravel-I think they should race that way every time!
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 6:44 am

Just came from Barcelona today.........
What to say? I'm deaf but not blind and Alonso did a superb race today.
About the King, He did a lap with Alonso before the race and I think they talk enough to give him time to comment some matters with Schumi..



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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 6:55 am

Enrique, Excellent picture...

I think i'll have to make a visit to barcelona for F1 next year, you've got an excellent view there!  Smile
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 6:56 am

Congratulations to Alonso and Fisi  Smile

Ferrari and Schumi simply could not match their pace today  Sad Oh well, 2nd is best of the rest Big grin

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 29):
- Another terrible broadcast. When they showed the press conference at the end of the race, they didn't even show Fisichella's comments or Alonso's final comments!

I learnt my lesson last year, and the last race. I "watched" the race using f1.com's live timing feed, and will catch all the action in Speed's coverage next weekend; although there wasn't much "action" in this race  Wink

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 29):
- This could be JPM's last season with McLarens. Kimi's ride is pretty safe as long as he keeps getting points every race (Sepang is the only race he did not finish in the points)

I personally think JPM is out of McLaren next year whether Kimi is there or not. If Kimi moves to Ferrari or Renault, RD will put Lewis Hamilton in his seat.

As for FA, I sure hope this guy has an exit clause in his contract with McLaren. He should stay at Renault...we'll then have a three way battle next year; MS, KR (assuming in Red  Wink) and FA. Well, I can dream, can't I  tongue 

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 6:57 am

Quoting Mygind66 (Reply 31):
Just came from Barcelona today.........

Hope you had a great time! Big grin

Out of curiosity, how many folks here are attending a race this year?

Not me, unfortunately  Sad
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 7:09 am

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 34):
Hope you had a great time!

I did, thanks Tifoso...
I've seen 2 times Motobikes in Barcelona but the F1 is something different. Never seen before live (I couldn't afford 270Euros but once.....).
I'm worried about the MacLarens this year, they should start the next year car and forget to do something on 2006..

About the race and how the F1 are, so good technically, I was impressed about the time per lap: a F1 1.15sec, a GP2 1.26, and a Porsche (400HP) 1.36sec....
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 7:15 am

Once again Spain proves it has the dullest race of the season. This is what happens when teams test extensively at a race venue (alla Mclaren's friday running - I am a hardcore Mclaren fan but thats disgusting).

I think the Spanish GP should either be at Jerez or Barcelona with teams only been allowed to test at the other circuit.

I would be well up for a ban on testing at race venues.

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 33):
Forza Ferrari

Oh dear...

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 12:09 pm

Quoting BA757 (Reply 36):
alla Mclaren's friday running - I am a hardcore Mclaren fan but thats disgusting).

10 laps between two drivers is pretty poor.


By the sounds of things, McLaren have made up their minds regarding FA's team mate for 2007. Should all be cleared up by Monaco, with any luck.
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 2:56 pm

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 37):
By the sounds of things, McLaren have made up their minds regarding FA's team mate for 2007. Should all be cleared up by Monaco, with any luck.

Well I hope its Raikkonen, but I feel it probably won't be. If Raikkonen is going anywhere, please let it not be Ferrari!

As I have said before, I'd be quite surprised to see Rosberg not snapped up by Mclaren - he is German/Finnish so would be great for Mercedes, and well, we know Ron loves his Finns! And thats not even mentioning his talent!

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 4:29 pm

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 34):
Out of curiosity, how many folks here are attending a race this year?

Count me in, I'm going to the Canadian GP for the 8th consecutive year  hyper 

Quoting BA757 (Reply 36):
Once again Spain proves it has the dullest race of the season. This is what happens when teams test extensively at a race venue (alla Mclaren's friday running - I am a hardcore Mclaren fan but thats disgusting).

I was thinking that during the early stages of the race. It's clear how much they test there by how even the cars are between the team mates, in the early laps at the head of the field you had the Renaults, the Ferraris, the Hondas, and the Toyotas all running nose to tail with their teammates and not really making any progress on the cars ahead, a sign that they pretty much have the setups perfected for the chassis and there's little room for driver talent at a place they know so well... one interesting thing was Massa's fast lap at the end of the race, that came out of nowhere!
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 5:06 pm

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 34):
Out of curiosity, how many folks here are attending a race this year?

I attended the Imola race, and will also be attending Monaco, albeit with only a GA ticket  Sad

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 39):
I was thinking that during the early stages of the race. It's clear how much they test there by how even the cars are between the team mates, in the early laps at the head of the field you had the Renaults, the Ferraris, the Hondas, and the Toyotas all running nose to tail with their teammates and not really making any progress on the cars ahead, a sign that they pretty much have the setups perfected for the chassis and there's little room for driver talent at a place they know so well...

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Exactly. Banning testing at race venues would be a good idea I believe. I mean, whats wrong with Paul Ricard for testing? I read an article in some motorsport magazine a few years ago, and it appears you can do everything at that place, its incredibly high tech. I am surprised it doesn't host the French GP.

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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 5:37 pm

I think the bad news of the week-end for Ferrari is that Renault annouced they will stay in F1 until 2012...
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 6:09 pm

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 34):
Out of curiosity, how many folks here are attending a race this year?

I went to Melbourne, contemplating Japan or China later in the year.
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 7:05 pm

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 42):
I went to Melbourne, contemplating Japan or China later in the year.

I was in Melbourne as well, and I don't think I can afford going any more races this year. Maybe next year I will go Albert Park again, it's a great feeling apart from the typical MElbourne weather.
 
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Mon May 15, 2006 7:12 pm

Quoting Senliture (Reply 43):
I was in Melbourne as well, and I don't think I can afford going any more races this year. Maybe next year I will go Albert Park again, it's a great feeling apart from the typical MElbourne weather

Next year it will be back at the beginning of march so hopefully it will be much nicer.
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Mon May 15, 2006 8:58 pm

Quoting Alphafloor (Reply 41):
I think the bad news of the week-end for Ferrari is that Renault annouced they will stay in F1 until 2012...

Actually, it's exactly the opposite. From http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=28054

Quote:

The Frenchman [Jean Todt] is asked for his reaction to the fact that Renault have signed to new Concorde Agreement.

"Good," he replies without hesitation. "That's the good news of the weekend. Bad news for you [the media] because you will have to stop talking about the GPMA, a parallel championship and all that, but good news for Formula One."
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Tue May 16, 2006 9:16 am

Quoting Mygind66 (Reply 31):


Enrique

- Enrique, is that an Atlanta Braves cap? It's a great photo.

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 34):
Out of curiosity, how many folks here are attending a race this year?

- Speaking of attendance, doesn't the USGP still have the highest attendance of all Formula One races?
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Tue May 16, 2006 10:23 am

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 46):

- Speaking of attendance, doesn't the USGP still have the highest attendance of all Formula One races?

Yes, it is typically 140,000. The stands however look empty because they are designed to seat 400,000.

The race tickets at Indy are significantly cheaper than that in other European tracks. The cost of flying to the US to watch a race is comparable to attending a race in Europe (or so I've heard).

We therefore see lots of European fans here, not to mention Juan Pablo supporters from Colombia.

I was at Indy in 2004 and loved it. Big grin
 
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Tue May 16, 2006 11:29 am

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 47):
The stands however look empty because they are designed to seat 400,000

About 255,000 actual seats plus god-knows-how-many in the infield

Only about 60% of those seats are good for seeing the F1 race though, since many are on the outside of (oval) turns 3 and 4 which F1 doesn't use.

As for going to the race: I'm more of a sports car fan myself. I will be at Lime Rock for the ALMS race the same weekend F1 is at Indy  Big grin

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Quoting Bill142 (Reply 44):

Wasn't the GP moved this year only to accomodate some sort of date conflict?
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RE: F1 : Spanish GP

Tue May 16, 2006 11:53 am

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 48):
Wasn't the GP moved this year only to accomodate some sort of date conflict

Yes. It was moved to avoid a clash with the commonwealth games. Ecclestone has been going around suggesting that the race might remain in the same date, but apparently there in the contract it must be the first race of the season.

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