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So This Is How The USAF Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 4:46 am

We're at war, we have a new fighter coming online, we have tankers that are getting older by the flight hour... and the air force is dicking around making up new uniforms?!

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So This Is How The USAF Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 4:50 am

Well, they have to have uniforms and the uniforms are being changed throughout the military. It does have a morale effect, as servicemen and women like to appear sharp.

It's like the airlines repainting their fleets.....it's got to be done, so changing color doesn't cost any more.

I'd admit that it does lack the Sam Browne belt.
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So This Is How The USAF Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 4:58 am

What's going on in that top picture? It looks like the guy on the right is touching his hand on the woman's hand, meanwhile she's got a surprised "help me" look on her face.

I think the old uniforms look better also.
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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 5:39 am

That last photo looks frighteningly similar. All they need is the belt thing going over the shoulder and it would just about be a perfect match!

Those new unifors also remind me of this

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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 5:49 am

I, too, like the old uniform better, but I guess this is progress. Perhaps if I see it on a bunch of people in a parade line or something, it'll start to look decent.

Also, as long as we're making sci-fi references, does anyone else think that that woman in the first pic looks like Commanderette Zircon from Spaceballs? You know, "Shall I have Snotty beam you down, sir?...Snotty beamed me twice last night--it was wonderful." Anyway...

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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 5:53 am

Quoting N766UA (Thread starter):
We're at war, we have a new fighter coming online, we have tankers that are getting older by the flight hour... and the air force is dicking around making up new uniforms?!

You'd be surprised where their priorities lie. They waste far more money on much more trivial items than this. They have no concept of money management when they're getting as much as they do each year.

That being said, the fact that they're 'dicking' around with new uniforms doesn't surprise me in the least. I'd be surprised if they didn't have a flat screen plasma TV to show the new design on.  crazy 
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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 5:57 am

I haven't heard about the new uniforms. I've read about the new BDU's (I assume we are still getting those?)



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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 6:01 am

The damned Army is doing the same . . . wanting to get rid of the dress green Class A and standardize the Army Dress Blue into a Formal/Informal Class A uniform.

It means some Colonel somewhere, warming a chair, hasn't got enough to do and has convinced some General somewhere, also warming a chair, that their particular branch of the service needs to be prettier . . .

  

What a waste of effort . . . bet those Chairwarmers haven't fired a weapon in a decade or so . . .

That guy (the General) on the right in the second in the thread starter is a fat fuck too . . . damned lazy ass Air Force . . . he needs a few round on the track and some time in the gym.

The uniforms above aren't as bad as the BLUE BDUs the Air Force looked at, but they are still damned fugly . . .

Better the Air Force (supposedly a branch of the military but a LOT less formal) than the Army with those things.

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Matt: The Blue Air Force BDU is out - done, over, finished . . . I only saw an airman wearing them once - and I laughed my ass off . . . medium blue camo. . .  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  . . . can you say "TARGET".

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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 6:02 am

Quoting MattCLE (Reply 6):
I haven't heard about the new uniforms. I've read about the new BDU's (I assume we are still getting those?)

The new BDUs, yes, unfortunately. I'm not sure if these new service coats are just ideas or if they're actually planning on introducing them. Seems to me we just got new service coats in the past 10 years.. why do we need these? Eh...
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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 6:07 am

Looks like something from Stargate.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
It means some Colonel somewhere, warming a chair, hasn't got enough to do and has convinced some General somewhere, also warming a chair, that their particular branch of the service needs to be prettier . . .

Peter Principle in action

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
hat guy (the General) on the right in the second in the thread starter is a fat fuck too . . . damned lazy ass Air Force . . . he needs a few round on the track and some time in the gym.

 ouch  Wonder if he passed his flight physical, or maybe he been a pencil pusher ass kisser his entire career.
 
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Sat May 13, 2006 6:17 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
Matt: The Blue Air Force BDU is out - done, over, finished . . . I only saw an airman wearing them once - and I laughed my ass off . . . medium blue camo. . . rotfl rotfl rotfl . . . can you say "TARGET".

Oh, good! Big grin

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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 7:19 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):

That guy (the General) on the right in the second in the thread starter is a fat fuck too . . . damned lazy ass Air Force . . . he needs a few round on the track and some time in the gym.



Quoting AirCop (Reply 9):
Looks like something from Stargate.

Yeah.. the pudgy Gen reminds me of Hammond..
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Sat May 13, 2006 7:23 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
That guy (the General) on the right in the second in the thread starter is a fat fuck too . . . damned lazy ass Air Force . . . he needs a few round on the track and some time in the gym.

Bloody hilarious!  rotfl 



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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 8:15 am

For me it looks a bit to similar to these two examples.



I am alright with new costumes for the Air Force, all the rest are doing it, might as well keep up, its all part of recruitment. But just a touch to close to the SS uniform for my liking. I hope they keep the same flight suits.
 
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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 11:28 pm

About the similarity to Grand Moff Tarkin's uniform:

Yet more proof that we actually do have a real, working Death Star.
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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sat May 13, 2006 11:44 pm

The collar insignia reminds me of:



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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sun May 14, 2006 1:49 am

errrghhh! The current US Airforce uniform is smart is effective and exhubes power... this new one just looks old and tacky or looks like some future uniform that came about after the world had a nuclear war and that was all they could scrounge together
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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sun May 14, 2006 2:54 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
The damned Army is doing the same . . . wanting to get rid of the dress green Class A and standardize the Army Dress Blue into a Formal/Informal Class A uniform.

It means some Colonel somewhere, warming a chair, hasn't got enough to do and has convinced some General somewhere, also warming a chair, that their particular branch of the service needs to be prettier . . .

The Navy is doing it too. We're losing the summer whites(Good Humour man)/Winter Blues(Johnny Cash's) with a year-round class B uniform.
Here were some of the prosposed uniforms being tested


Pentagon, Washington, D.C. (Feb. 18, 2005) - Secretary of the Navy Gordon England meets with several Task Force Uniform volunteers to find out what they think about the new test uniforms. Sailors in the Pentagon are testing four different versions of the working uniform, designed as a replacement for both the winter working blues and the summer whites. U.S. Navy photo by Chief Journalist Craig P. Strawser

Also, were losing the Car Mechanic/Dickies style utilities in favour of an battle dress uniform(Blue/black/grey digital pattern) which will resemble the Marine Corps, but give the Navy a bit of distinction.

Pensacola, Fla. (May 11, 2005) - Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), Adm. Vern Clark, talk to Naval Air Technical Training Center (NATTC) instructor Aviation Electrician’s Mate 1st Class Michael Santos. Santos is participating in the "Task Force Uniform" test platform, which evaluates four different uniform styles being tested through August 2005. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class Mark A. Ebert

Pearl Harbor, Hawaii (Feb. 25, 2005) - Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (MCPON) Terry Scott meets several Task Force Uniform volunteers at the Personnel Support Detachment on board Naval Station Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, to find out what they think about the new test uniforms. Approximately 120 Sailors at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii will evaluate the new uniforms for a six-month test period. The service blue uniform will be worn year-round and will take the place of the summer white and winter blue uniforms. Dress uniforms, such as "Cracker Jacks" will not be affected by this wear test. Each uniform offers options for Sailors to choose from and give feedback to Task Force Uniform. MCPON Scott was in Hawaii to attend the Commander, U.S. Pacific Command change of command, and toured several commands around Pearl Harbor. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 1st Class William R. Goodwin (RELEASED)

Kuwait Naval Base, Kuwait (Feb. 20, 2005) - Gunner's Mate 1st Class David K. Bartlett, assigned to Inshore Boat Unit Two Four (IBU-24), Squadron Two Five, is one of 30 volunteers from IBU-24 putting the Navy's newest concept uniforms to the test as participants in Task Force Uniform. The Navy introduced a set of concept working uniforms for Sailors E-1 through O-10, Oct. 18, 2004, in response to the fleet's feedback on current uniforms. Four different uniform pattern types will be tested this winter at various locations throughout the world. Each uniform offers a variety of options that Sailors will have the opportunity to choose from. Feedback from the fleet will be used to determine the final Navy Working Uniform. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 1st Class Richard J. Brunson (RELEASED

The Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy, Master Chief Terry Scott has informed us, that outgoing Chief of Naval Operations, Adm Vern Clark has signed off on the Uniform Task Force directive. These below will be the final examples of what we're going to be issued.
(I'd rather wear the woodland pattern istaed of the digital, but I don't sign the paychecks)


I personally won't mind it if I continue to stay with the Navy. I dislike the summer whites because you put them for 10 seconds, and you have stains and scuffs. When you wear the Winter Blues, the black shows the deodorant if you're not carefull for those of us that wear wife-beaters under the blues. As for the utilities? Anything is better than these:


We could have something better than the digital pattern, but it's nicer than wearing the denim dungerees(the bell-bottom trousers) the coveralls also.
Tradition isn't going away completely. We'll still be wearing the Service-dress Blues (Crackerjacks), and the Service-dress Whites. There has to be some distiction between the the E-7 and above, and junior enlisted.
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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sun May 14, 2006 2:58 am

Well this is good news indeed!

I must say I don't like the new camoflauge one - it looks like a jigsaw puzzle of the middle east.

Jetjack - how special! You're getting a new outfit.

Looking forward to your latest pics of you in a galley with your newly issued, American government, 100% polyester pants and blouse. And of course in all airline tradition - what about your newest hat?


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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sun May 14, 2006 3:01 am

I did a Google search for new Air Force uniforms but I didn't get any references confirming that they were trying out the Star Wars / Admiral Janeway version. Only BDU's, and those stories are a couple years old. That's kind of weird.
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RE: So This Is How The Usaf Is Spending Their Budget?

Sun May 14, 2006 3:37 am

Quoting CurtisMan (Reply 18):
what about your newest hat?

We still keep the dixie cup for the dress uniforms. We' wear a garrison cap with our winter blues, That will hold over to the new uniform.
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