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Motorways Vs Freeways

Tue May 16, 2006 9:21 pm

motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe
 
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Tue May 16, 2006 9:24 pm

Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

Is that a statement or a question?
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Tue May 16, 2006 9:24 pm

Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

So what's that got to do with Freeways?  Wink
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Tue May 16, 2006 9:36 pm

Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

Presumedly you are discussing the condition of the road surface (?) then motorways in the UK, at least those south of Watford, are generally better than those in Belgium and north-east France.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 2):
So what's that got to do with Freeways?

Well that's because motorways in the UK are free, innit?  Wink

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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Tue May 16, 2006 9:40 pm

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 3):

Well that's because motorways in the UK are free, innit?

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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Tue May 16, 2006 10:15 pm

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 3):
Well that's because motorways in the UK are free, innit?

Well, with two exceptions, there are no toll roads in Denmark either - and boy do we feel it at the pump Sad
 
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Tue May 16, 2006 10:20 pm

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 5):

Well, with two exceptions, there are no toll roads in Denmark either - and boy do we feel it at the pump

yes, while we still have the world's highest taxes
 
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Tue May 16, 2006 10:57 pm

IM SORRY , whats better a american freeway or a motorway
 
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 12:53 am

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 7):
IM SORRY , whats better a american freeway or a motorway

It probably depends on how you define "better". In absolute terms, you could say that American freeways are better because they are larger/wider, but they have more traffic. You could say that a British motorway is better because you drive on the left  duck  and because you can drive faster... it depends on how you look at it, and what specific motorway/freeway you're talking about. Probably Los Angeles CA vs Bournemouth will be different than Jackson WY vs London.

I've driven on both and don't find any of them better or worse.

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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 1:29 am

British motorways, A roads, and B roads are in MUCH better condition than most American freeways (interstates) and US and State highways.



One thing's for sure.... Our pickups and SUV's handle those potholes quite nicely.  Wink

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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 1:31 am

I've travelled in US 'freeways' and not so free ways... and they are not pot holed like that. Maybe in a few spots, specially around construction, but nothing like that picture even if it's pretty bad.
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 1:59 am

In Denmark, the government will pay for the damage your car got due to a hole in a road if it is depper than a certain depth (8 cm I think it is), and if you tell them where it happened.
 
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 3:31 am

I do remember driving somewhere in California on a freeway and they had just re-surfaced it.
The problem was, they didn't re-surface it under and on bridges (through a town), so every time you drove there the whole car vibrated like mad from the bad surface!
 
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 4:20 am

Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

Innit bruv.
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 4:23 am

Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

Ever been to Germany? Some Autobahns here are horrible, only two lanes in each direction, bad condition of the roadway, etc.

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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 4:25 am

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 13):
Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

Innit bruv.

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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 4:31 am

Ba757gla - your posts always seem to be just one statement. Do you have any opinions of your own on any of these matters, or is it just 'verbal' (well, posting) diarrhea?
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 4:32 am

Quoting Ba757gla (Thread starter):
motorways in the uk are not up to standard to the ones in europe

And you got your RR of 1 how exactly?! The only way I can imagine is you bought the dam thing of eBay. Isn't a persons RR meant to be a good representation on how much they know about the aviation industry, and how they can help answer questions on this site to do with aviation??
It seems to me its become more of a popularity thing, and that gets me thinking, I still don't know how you for the RR of 1 for the stupid threads you start!!  banghead 

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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 4:40 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 9):
British motorways, A roads, and B roads are in MUCH better condition than most American freeways (interstates) and US and State highways.

Where the H@## was that picture AsstchiefMark??? I sure hope I don,t ever have to travel on that road with my 12 year old Geo Prizm  Wow!
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 4:43 am

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 8):
In absolute terms, you could say that American freeways are better because they are larger/wider, but they have more traffic

It depends on where you are. Interstate and Interstate-Standard highways often go down to 2 lanes in each direction when driving through sparsely populated areas. Having done 6 ultra-long distance drives and several other shorter ones, I can detail that if you want

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 9):
British motorways, A roads, and B roads are in MUCH better condition than most American freeways (interstates) and US and State highways.

That pothole picture is definately not the norm. Also, not all freeways are interstates, though they will normally be up to interstate standards if called a freeway. The freeways in California are in the overall best condition of any roads I have ever been on, including the Autobahns in Germany. New Mexico's freeways are also in excellent condition in my experience.

Quoting A319XFW (Reply 12):
I do remember driving somewhere in California on a freeway and they had just re-surfaced it.
The problem was, they didn't re-surface it under and on bridges (through a town), so every time you drove there the whole car vibrated like mad from the bad surface!

What you were driving on was slury-sealed road. The freeway system in California is primarily made of grooved concrete as opposed to asphalt because it lasts much longer and is less prone to flooding and slickness after a brief rain storm. Asphalt does, however, provide a smoother ride. After 30 years or so, the life of concrete can be extended 10 years by applying a slury seal of ashpalt over it (you can usually do this 2 or even 3 times). The thing is, they leave parts of the concrete uncovered, which is why you felt that "bad surface". In fact, that surface is just fine, it just doesn't ride as smoothly as the slury sealed surface

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 14):
Some Autobahns here are horrible, only two lanes in each direction

Plenty of major highways are only 2 lanes in each direction. This happens when they pass through less heavily trafficed areas.
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 4:51 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):
The freeways in California are in the overall best condition of any roads I have ever been on, including the Autobahns in Germany

I must contradict you there - the freeways in California are some of the worst 'fast' roads I've been on. You can tell there is money in Nevada, as the roads get better there.
 
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 6:15 am

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 17):
Isn't a persons RR meant to be a good representation on how much they know about the aviation industry, and how they can help answer questions on this site to do with aviation??

Not if you are a girl, you get an RR of 14 within days of joining or 66 in just over a month, when you only spend time in non-av or chat !!!.

Defeats the whole purpose of the RR IMHO.

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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 6:31 am

Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 16):
Ba757gla - your posts always seem to be just one statement. Do you have any opinions of your own on any of these matters, or is it just 'verbal' (well, posting) diarrhea?

Perhaps Ba757gla aims to provoke an individual's reaction to a certain thought or statement by leaving it up to the individual reader to interpret the statement in whatever way he/she chooses. Please don't be so dismissive of others.

By the way LeonB1985, you might want to check out the dictionary for the correct spelling of Diarrhoea.

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 17):
And you got your RR of 1 how exactly?! The only way I can imagine is you bought the dam thing of eBay.

Who do you think you are? There's no need to be such a patronising, condescending git!

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 17):
Isn't a persons RR meant to be a good representation on how much they know about the aviation industry, and how they can help answer questions on this site to do with aviation??

Have you failed to notice that the poster has started this thread in the NON-AVIATION forum?

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 17):
I still don't know how you for the RR of 1 for the stupid threads you start!!

Get over yourself, and a by the way for you too, I think you also should brush up on some English lessons!
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 6:32 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):
Plenty of major highways are only 2 lanes in each direction. This happens when they pass through less heavily trafficed areas.

In the USA, yes, but you can't compare that to Germany. We have 2-Lane Autobahns in the middle of the Ruhr Area. It is a joke, a traffic jam is more than predictible.

When I worked in Dortmund, I always made sure that I was on the A40 (B1) before 7am, I am not the "morning guy" but I prefered to get up at 6:30am rather than getting up at 7am but spend another hour in a traffic jam.

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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 6:42 am

Quoting BDKLEZ (Reply 22):
By the way LeonB1985, you might want to check out the dictionary for the correct spelling of Diarrhoea

And you might also want to check out the dictionary (Oxford English Dictionary, if that's of interest), which points out that the spelling 'diarrhea' is equally acceptable.
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 6:46 am

I'm actually suprised I have not had more people agree with me, but seeing as though I've got someone whose taken what I said to heart, let me respond;

1) Who the fuck do you think you are calling me a git?! Did it make you all warm and fuzzy calling someone a bad name?

2) Please find me one thread he's started that has any SERIOUS intelligent insight into the aviation industry or even a response to a question asked on this site.

3) Seeing as though I read the thread in the NON AVIATION forum, yes, I did notice it was posted there, thanks for double checking though.

4) Get over myself? What exactly am I getting over? And in regards to my English, I make one typo and you're having a field day! Blimey you need to seriously relax!

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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 6:48 am

Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 24):
And you might also want to check out the dictionary (Oxford English Dictionary, if that's of interest), which points out that the spelling 'diarrhea' is equally acceptable.

You mean this Oxford English Dictionary which clearly states that your version of the word is a US variant and does in no way suggest that "diarrhea" is...

Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 24):
equally acceptable.

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/diarrhoea?view=uk


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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 6:54 am

Quoting BDKLEZ (Reply 26):

You mean this Oxford English Dictionary which clearly states that your version of the word is a US variant and does in no way suggest that "diarrhea" is...

I just said the version I used was equally acceptable. Whether it is a US variant or not (OED.com makes no reference to it being one) is irrelevant!
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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 7:03 am

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 25):



Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 27):

Listen guys, in order to get back on topic, I'll explain in short.

If you have an issue with the quality, relevance or otherwise of an individual's posting, then suggest deletion and/or send an email to the Mods.

You'll also notice from the chap in question's profile, that he is 16-20 and a student. Perhaps this would have a bearing on some of his posts.

All I'm suggesting is that you think about something before you write it, and if you're going to say something that could be considered a little damning, then take the time to check out the person's profile before jumping in with both feet, because there could be a very valid reason behind the quality of any particular post in question.

That's all.

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RE: Motorways Vs Freeways

Wed May 17, 2006 7:08 am

BDLKEZ, glad to see the issue of my spelling, which you raised, was cleared up. I'm sorry if it upset you in any way.  Wink

And back on topic: I personally do not see any major differences between motorways here in the UK and the continent.
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