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Sat May 20, 2006 12:58 am

Shocking?
No not to me, I mean I have compared them to Nazi Germany before, and I will do so again.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/n...fbf4a8-282a-4d18-954f-546709b1240f
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3252830,00.html

Human rights groups are raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear coloured badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims.

"This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis."


I am growing increasingly disturbed at just how far they are willing to push it...

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Sat May 20, 2006 1:01 am

I can't wait to hear the Iran supporters defend this one.

Sadly, I'm not very surprised either at this one.

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Sat May 20, 2006 1:02 am

Didn't the Taliban want non-Muslims to register or something at one point? Sounds a lot like Hitler's playbook is in effect in Iran.

Do they plan on leaving out the gays and gypsies from wearing badges?

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I'm not defending them... but...

Are there any Jews even left in Iran?
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:06 am

I was just posting this . . . beat me by 30 seconds . . .

"Oh, Iran's a peaceful nation though"  sarcastic 

And, it's a law that was just passed, not something that surprises me . . .
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:09 am

Perhaps there should be badges for Muslims in Europe and the USA as well?  Confused
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:09 am

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 3):
I'm not defending them... but...

Are there any Jews even left in Iran?

Nice, make excuses instead.
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:15 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 2):
Do they plan on leaving out the gays

We're already marked with good taste in fashion. Stand out like a light.
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:17 am

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 3):
Are there any Jews even left in Iran?

Yes there are!
Iran (Persia) used to hold some of the oldest and most admirable Jewish communities, now how ever...

According to:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/jewpop.html

Iran holds 20,405 Jews I am unaware of how many Christians or other religious factions live in Iran.

But man look at the PR value, I mean is he acking for Jews to respond or what?!

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Sat May 20, 2006 1:17 am

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 3):
I'm not defending them... but...

Are there any Jews even left in Iran?

You are not defending them, we know.  sarcastic 

Read the story, which I have found that you dont do, and it gives some nice figures of 'only' 25,000 Jews in Iran. But wait, they are also forcing Christians and Zoroastrians to badge themselves. Beautiful government of Iran, only looking for the well-being of its people.
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:18 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
We're already marked with good taste in fashion. Stand out like a light.

Yeah but I am guessing they don't last that long, last two convicted are dead already.

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Sat May 20, 2006 1:21 am

Quoting Windshear (Reply 10):
last two convicted are dead already.

Hmm, yes, I understand that screaming, "Sweetie, that frock is to die for!" could be a quite literal statement, sadly.
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:26 am

Quoting Windshear (Reply 10):
last two convicted are dead already.

You forgot to mention that those bastards executed teenagers for being gay. I think the oldest was only 16!
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:30 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 12):
You forgot to mention that those bastards executed teenagers for being gay. I think the oldest was only 16!

Yeah exactly  Sad

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 11):

Hmm, yes, I understand that screaming, "Sweetie, that frock is to die for!" could be a quite literal statement, sadly.

 Big grin

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Sat May 20, 2006 1:34 am

Didn't they also just reneg on their decree that women could now watch football games?
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:39 am

I dont think its true. I looked all over the place and cant find any reference and i dont know these two publications linked. Im not looking to defend Iran's govenment because it does some bad stuff like capital punishments for things that arent really crimes. But i am interested in the truth and im not interested in stuff that has been made up for political ends.
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:45 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 15):
I looked all over the place and cant find any reference and i dont know these two publications linked.

I just found 18 links about the subject in Google News, including one from United Press International.
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:51 am

Quoting KROC (Reply 6):

Nice, make excuses instead.



Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 9):
You are not defending them, we know. sarcastic

Christ, chill out you two. The reason I ask this is because I thought after 1948, all the Jews were kicked out of the country. Why would I, a JEW, defend this action from the government of Iran?

Of course, you jump to conclusions and just make asses out of yourselves.
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:52 am

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 17):
Christ, chill out you two. The reason I ask this is because I thought after 1948, all the Jews were kicked out of the country. Why would I, a JEW, defend this action from the government of Iran?

Maybe people should have looked at your profile before flaming you....
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Quoting Gkirk (Reply 5):
in Europe and the USA

as Iran is just a country and NOT a continent, I am sure you meant Scotland and the USA ?
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:02 am

I can't say that this surprises me.

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 12):
You forgot to mention that those bastards executed teenagers for being gay. I think the oldest was only 16!

They also executed a teenage girl for sleeping with some guy. She was hanged and the guy got a beating or two.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 5):
Perhaps there should be badges for Muslims in Europe and the USA as well?

There would be a shitstorm if any western country tried to do that. We'd probably see more embassies burn just like when the cartoon was released. But I guess it's ok for Iran to  confused ??

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Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 19):
as Iran is just a country and NOT a continent, I am sure you meant Scotland and the USA ?

Sure, that'll do  Wink
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:03 am

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 16):
I just found 18 links about the subject in Google News, including one from United Press International.

Well i havent heard of any of these publications including United Press International. If it was true and from a reliable source it would be on RTE, BBC and a whole load of other reputable news sources that I use. I doubt ill even hear of it again. Its just that kind of sensationalist unfounded crap that appears now and again on less reputable sources but quickly dissappears because its not true.
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:07 am

Quoting TWAMD-80 (Reply 21):
if any western country tried to do that.

Any such country would, just as "Windshear" has outlined above, be copying Nazi-Germany. That Iran DOES do so, already is bad enough. And, it just is the famous "tip of the iceberg". Look up what may happen to the whole Iranian population, IF that law becomes effective.
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:08 am

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 3):
I'm not defending them... but...

But... but... wait for it...

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 3):
Are there any Jews even left in Iran?

YES!!! He went ahead and did it... You just can't help yourself, Tbar, can you?

There are some 20,000 Jews in Iran, according to this source.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/jewpop.html

There are also over 300,000 Christians

http://www.asylumlaw.org/docs/iran/m...ristian%20population%20of%20Iran'

But even if there was only 1, such a policy is unacceptable, after the precedent of the Third Reich.
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:09 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 23):
Well i havent heard of any of these publications including United Press International.

I'm stunned. It's only been around since 1907.
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:11 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 23):
Well i havent heard of any of these publications including United Press International. If it was true and from a reliable source it would be on RTE, BBC and a whole load of other reputable news sources that I use. I doubt ill even hear of it again. Its just that kind of sensationalist unfounded crap that appears now and again on less reputable sources but quickly dissappears because its not true.



It was just on Fox News here in the US!

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Sat May 20, 2006 2:14 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 23):
Well i havent heard of any of these publications including United Press International.

So it's not true because of your own ignorance.  Yeah sure

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Sat May 20, 2006 2:17 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 23):
Well i havent heard of any of these publications including United Press International.

I think you'll find that the BBC gets some of their feeds from the UPI. Perhaps you would like to continue your arguement that the UPI isn't a reputable news organization. Let me guess...during the time of the USSR you would only believe what came out of there if it was printed in Pravda or Tass?
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:18 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 26):
I'm stunned. It's only been around since 1907.

Wowee. But ive still never heard of it. Maybe its mostly American orientated or something. But I like to use the RTE,BBC,ITN and some other mainstream sources. There is nothing about this on them. If this was true it would be BIG news all over the place. But its not.
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:19 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 25):
such a policy is unacceptable, after the precedent of the Third Reich.

I for once fully agree in something with you

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 25):
But... but... wait for it...

but but I think you can wait quite a while for "it", if "it" means somebody who defends A) the part of the law forcing Jews to wear "symbols", B) the part of the law forcing Christians to wear "symbols" , C) the law forcing all Iranians to wear traditional Islamic clothing .
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:20 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 31):
Wowee. But ive still never heard of it. Maybe its mostly American orientated or something. But I like to use the RTE,BBC,ITN and some other mainstream sources. There is nothing about this on them. If this was true it would be BIG news all over the place. But its not.

Man you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper:

Welcome to UPI
Since 1907, United Press International (UPI) has been a leading provider of critical information to media outlets, businesses, governments and researchers worldwide. UPI is a global operation headquartered in Washington, DC with offices in Beirut, Hong Kong, London, Santiago, Seoul and Tokyo.

http://about.upi.com/
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:21 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 31):
RTE

RTE is only mainstream because of where you are. UPI has been a freely-accessed international news source for 99 years.
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:23 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 15):
I dont think its true. I looked all over the place and cant find any reference and i dont know these two publications linked. Im not looking to defend Iran's govenment because it does some bad stuff like capital punishments for things that arent really crimes. But i am interested in the truth and im not interested in stuff that has been made up for political ends.

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Sat May 20, 2006 2:27 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 36):
And again, why single out the Jews in Iran for this news? After all, the thread originator wrote right at the beginning that this also affected Christians.

And why single out the Jews and the Christians ? It also affects millions of Iranian city-dwellers / town-dwellers, who for ages were used to modern clothing.
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:29 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 37):
And why single out the Jews and the Christians ? It also affects millions of Iranian city-dwellers / town-dwellers, who for ages were used to modern clothing.

I would have to agree with you, this is bad news for all Iranians.

However, lest we forget there is some historical sensitivity issues here about Jews being branded in their native country.
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:30 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 33):
Welcome to UPI
Since 1907, United Press International (UPI) has been a leading provider of critical information to media outlets, businesses, governments and researchers worldwide. UPI is a global operation headquartered in Washington, DC with offices in Beirut, Hong Kong, London, Santiago, Seoul and Tokyo.

Thats their blurb.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 35):
You don't get around much do you?

I do get around alot actually. And I know made up non news when I see it.
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:31 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 24):
Any such country would, just as "Windshear" has outlined above, be copying Nazi-Germany.

I certainly do recognize that.

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Sat May 20, 2006 2:32 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 39):
Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 33):
Welcome to UPI
Since 1907, United Press International (UPI) has been a leading provider of critical information to media outlets, businesses, governments and researchers worldwide. UPI is a global operation headquartered in Washington, DC with offices in Beirut, Hong Kong, London, Santiago, Seoul and Tokyo.

Thats their blurb.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 35):
You don't get around much do you?

I do get around alot actually. And I know made up non news when I see it.

Are you just digging in your heals to make a point? Have you ever read a newspaper by line? How often does news in your local paper come over via UPI. I would guess almost everyday!

Stop being dense and admit you don't know what you are talking about and just admit that you've learned something new here today!
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:32 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 23):
Well i havent heard of any of these publications including United Press International.

Funny, UPI is widely known as a reputable source of international news even in this small corner of the planet. Oh well...
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:33 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 39):
And I know made up non news when I see it.

Yeah, actually, I understand. All that rock-tossing in N.I. for 30 years didn't happen either, because I didn't see it myself, and my favorite reporter was too young to be there at the supposed time it supposedly happened.
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:34 am

Wow. I guess those who deny history are doomed to repeat it.

Well, on the bright side, Iran keeps daring the rest of the world to get involved. I'm sure that Europe isn't happy about this (I'd imagine that Germany would have some choice words on the matter). Dare someone to do something enough and eventually they'll do it.

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Sat May 20, 2006 2:37 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 36):
And again, why single out the Jews in Iran for this news?

Exactly!
Jews are a minority all over the world, except for Israel of course, that is why I think many jump when they hear this, no matte which minority this hits, it sure scares me.

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Sat May 20, 2006 2:38 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 39):

I do get around alot actually. And I know made up non news when I see it.

Apparently not as much as you think . . . but that's neither here nor there, you've been beat to shreds here and you continue to babble . . .

It's quite amusing, please continue, I've nothing on the agenda for another hour or so, gives me something to do . . .

Oh, go look at CNN and Fox as well, as the stories are there. SURELY to God you've heard of CNN and Fox?? Right??  sarcastic 

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Sat May 20, 2006 2:40 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 37):

And why single out the Jews and the Christians ? It also affects millions of Iranian city-dwellers / town-dwellers, who for ages were used to modern clothing.

Yeah well we have all talked about the Iranians before, I have even posted pictures of a 17 year old gay boy with a neuse around his neck... This is just too scary, because everybody knows what historical footprints are on such deeds.

Don't play the devil's advocate, cuz you wouldn't like his pay...

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Sat May 20, 2006 2:41 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 42):
Have you ever read a newspaper by line?

Yes seen alot of sources but never this one.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 42):
How often does news in your local paper come over via UPI. I would guess almost everyday!

Never. Like I said maybe its a US organisation that your local papers use but its not used much this side of the water evidently. Probably with good reason having seen this bollocks quoted from it.
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:43 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 49):
Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 42):
Have you ever read a newspaper by line?

Yes seen alot of sources but never this one.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 42):
How often does news in your local paper come over via UPI. I would guess almost everyday!

Never. Like I said maybe its a US organisation that your local papers use but its not used much this side of the water evidently. Probably with good reason having seen this bollocks quoted from it.

That's BS. All local rags use the wire services of UPI, AP, Reuters, Etc.
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Yes heard of reuters and Associated Press but not UPI.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/archive/
Its not there.
I dont really use CNN either but I cant find the report on CNNs ME section.
As for FOX. I thought that was a running joke of a station for neo-con zealots only. I wouldnt believe anything on it.
 
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Sat May 20, 2006 2:52 am

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 49):
Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 42):
How often does news in your local paper come over via UPI. I would guess almost everyday!

Never. Like I said maybe its a US organisation that your local papers use but its not used much this side of the water evidently. Probably with good reason having seen this bollocks quoted from it.

Just like RTE is unheard of on this side of the pond. Thus, using your logic, since I've never heard of it, it's irreputable.

Either way, I hope the AFP is a reputable-enough source for you: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060519...fp/iranrightsreligion_060519170716

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