Bofredrik
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US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 6:18 am

US TV-programs (and some australian and UK), sitcom, drama etc dominates TV here in Sweden.
Some channels have almost only US programs. OK, some are good but a lot is crap.
I can imagine that you who live in USA thinks that it is OK but together with Mc Donalds, Coke, Nike etc and other US trademarks is it sometimes to much!

Example: Almost all programs on this large commercial channel is US made.

Monday May 22, 2006 (CHANNEL TV3)
06:30 Dennis
07:00 Simpsons
08:55 Oprah Winfrey show
09:50 Days of our Lives
10:40 Ricki Lake
11:30 Ellen DeGeneres
12:25 Lyckochansen SWEDISH
12:50 Days of our Lives
13:40 Oprah Winfrey show
14:40 Fab 5
15:35 Beverly Hills
16:30 ER
17:30 Home and away AUSTRALIAN
17:55 Update SWEDISH
18:00 Project runway
20:00 Extreme home makeover
21:00 ER
22:00 L Word
23:05 Navy CIS
00:00 Sex and the city
00:30 ER
01:25 Scrubs
01:50 Drew Carey show
02:20 Oz
03:25 Baywatch
04:10 Beverly Hills
05:00 Ricki Lake

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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 6:20 am

Turn it off, change the channel . . .

No one cares . . . .

Bitch to TV3 . . .
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 6:22 am

Wow... that sucks!!! I would get up and watch the Simpsons, then turn off the TV until SCRUBS came on....

Days of Our Lives and Oprah twice each.... how do you not gouge your eyes out....  vomit 
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 6:28 am

Supply and demand. The people at TV station want ratings, if they will get ratings by airing these programs then so be it.

Don't like it? That's what the red button is for.
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andaman
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 6:31 am

Mostly same in Finland, especially with the commercial channels. The state owned channels shows more European, like lot of British drama and soaps, and Swedish stuff, plus some German. Beside Finnish, of course ...
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 6:51 am

 yawn   yawn 

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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 7:15 am

You can get all kinds of US shows in Argentina, which is fine, choice is good! But thankfully we have a VERY strong cable network system of channels, in fact Argentina has more cable subscriber penetration in households than any other place after the USA and Canada. So we have our own sports, variety, women's networks, that are actually seen around the world.
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 7:17 am

Just be thankful that you guys in Sweden don't have the equivalent of the CRTC.

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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 7:40 am

Unfortunately it is critical mass. American TV has the scale which allows it to afford costly shows, like 24 or Star Trek. Smaller markets simply can't afford to spend that much on a program.

Sometimes however, the small markets make it up in raw talent. The BBC, famous for super-cheap production budgets, has produced masterpieces like BlackAdder, Monty Python, Yes, Minister and Fawlty Towers purely on the power of the writers. Unfortunately, such high-level writing is often impossible to translate into other languages. But Star Trek or Baywatch can be easily translated.
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 7:41 am

The only country on mainland Europe where I'm familiar with tv is Portugal. There I've noticed the almost complete lack of American television. There are four public channels and the overwhelming majority of shows are either Portuguese or Brazilian. Prime time seems to be dominated by soap operas, and until a few years ago Brazilian soap operas from Globo made the SIC network #1 in ratings. Though Brazilian culture tends to be the biggest influence in Portuguese popular culture. However, for the past 3 or 4 years Portuguese soap operas made by rival TVI have put that network in the number one place when it comes to marketshare.

Are sitcoms more popular in Sweden? That's the only reason I can explain the popularity of American programming. In Portugal soap operas dominate and if you look at a typical schedule of network tv at http://tv.publico.clix.pt/ you can see that the only American programs aired are CSI New York, Frasier and Dawson's Creek and Friends. All of which are relegated to afer midnight except for Friends on 2 which is the lowest rated network.

Also one question are programs in Sweden dubbed into Swedish? I've noticed much of the continent dubs programs and I find it really annoying, Portugal tends to be one of the exceptions and subtitles are almost always used except with cartoons.
 
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 8:02 am

Not our fault in the U.S. You do have actors there, don't you? Make your own shows.

Maybe you should see if you can get a starring role, Bofredrick. Lord knows you're dramatic enough on here.  sarcastic 
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 8:21 am

Um, Bofredrik, didn't you post this same sentiment a couple months ago?
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 8:40 am

An unintended positive of this, especially in the Nordic countries, is that a lot of kids speak English fluently by watching TV in addition to their studies at school. Last March, some guy in Stockholm bar was rattling off all his favorite "Friends" episodes to me, I didn't have the heart to tell him that "Friends" is one of our more embarrassing TV exports.
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 11:47 am

Most american TV is crap and so is the music (the mainstream stuff) and it dominates in most places.
 
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 12:24 pm

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 13):
Most american TV is crap and so is the music (the mainstream stuff) and it dominates in most places.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I think most US shows shown overseas suck. In fact, I might watch two shows on TV3 on a boring day. But, "so does the music?" WTF? Why is Melody Arabia one of the most fastest growing channels in the Middle East (ref: Advertising Age)? I can watch Melody Arabia on my dish for some odd reason... it's not Britney Spears in three square centimeters of clothing, but it is North American music set in Jordan with Arabs dancing and singing. Watching Melody Arabia is a blast, but its total hypocrisy at the same time.
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 1:16 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 10):
Not our fault in the U.S. You do have actors there, don't you? Make your own shows.

Exactly...
 
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 1:20 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 10):
Not our fault in the U.S. You do have actors there, don't you? Make your own shows.

Maybe you should see if you can get a starring role, Bofredrick. Lord knows you're dramatic enough on here.

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Well said, Falcon.




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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 1:31 pm

That is quite possible the crappest day of TV I have ever seen. Instead of expensive frontal lobotomy procedures, you could just have you patient do a marathon viewing session once, "The Simpsons" was finished.

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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 2:26 pm

this rant is similar to that Starbucks topic. Make your own shows. Simple as that. Here if a show is not watched it goes bye bye real fast. Make all those American shows go bye bye too if you want. But ya won't lol.

I was in France last month and was surprised to see some OLD American shows that were on tv.
 
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 2:31 pm

Change the channel, turn it off, make your own shows, and be thankful you don't get the UK's "The Kumars at 42."
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 3:08 pm

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 19):
Change the channel, turn it off, make your own shows, and be thankful you don't get the UK's "The Kumars at 42."

Damn this was just on BBC America.

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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sat May 20, 2006 5:45 pm

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 20):
just on BBC America.

Which does kind of answer the point about total American domination, doesn't it? How many other countries have an entire channel dedicated to the output of another nation's television like that?
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sun May 21, 2006 10:54 am

Quoting DETA737 (Reply 9):


Also one question are programs in Sweden dubbed into Swedish? I've noticed much of the continent dubs programs and I find it really annoying, Portugal tends to be one of the exceptions and subtitles are almost always used except with cartoons.

Generally no dubbing in Nordic countries, only for some kids stuff, like in Portugal.
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sun May 21, 2006 11:42 am

First of all, we do have the 'critical mass' to have the money to produce programs for TV. I would note that some shows and made for TV movies in the USA including for HBO (a premium pay movie/program channel) often make them in Canada, Europe and sometimes with co-support with BBC and other international regional media companies. Foreign sales are sometimes the only way some shows show a profit to the networks or their producers. For those outside the USA, they can be programs that are far more entertaing that many of your own programs.
Yes, there are some programs that I feel are embarassing to the USA (Friends, Desprite Housewives, Baywatch). Far too often they show a very distorted America, with huge amounts of crime (although we do have much higher rates of murder, and other violent crime that you do), sexual infidelity and stupid attitutes toward sex, too many religious nutcases, and too many people living a rich or upper middle class situation, or the very poor and not enought of 'real' middle class people. There is some hope here with some of our cable/dish only channels with intellegent and entertaining programs.
 
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sun May 21, 2006 11:48 am

It's all about market power, I think.

Here in the U.S., there are a few foreign entertainment programs that make it to our airwaves -- mostly BBC offerings. But I cannot remember the last time that a mainstream commercial network ran one, with the exception of Spanish-language stations. (Spanish-language stations run mostly Mexican dramas and comedies.)
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sun May 21, 2006 12:21 pm

Quoting Aeri28 (Reply 18):
this rant is similar to that Starbucks topic

Atleast Starbucks tastes good, some shows from the United States leave a bitter taste in my mouth.
 
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sun May 21, 2006 12:24 pm

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 25):
Atleast Starbucks tastes good, some shows from the United States leave a bitter taste in my mouth.

Believe me -- a lot of Americans feel the same way.
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sun May 21, 2006 3:41 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 21):
Which does kind of answer the point about total American domination, doesn't it? How many other countries have an entire channel dedicated to the output of another nation's television like that?

I can name a few.

TV5 (France), Polsat2USA/Int (Poland)

USA is as big as Europe, so in that case one can argue that you have CNBC Europe, CNN Europe, MTV Germany, MTV Poland etc etc.
 
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RE: US TV Dominates To Much!

Sun May 21, 2006 11:56 pm

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 27):
MTV Poland

How is the show called there? "Steal My Ride"?  Silly  Wink

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