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Mercedes Benz Question

Tue May 23, 2006 10:59 pm

Hi people, I'm starting my first topic here:

Mercedes-Benz has three categories for most of its cars.
Classic, Elegance and Avangarde.

Does anyone know how many of the new cars are in which category(%)?
Which one do you like best, and why?


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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Tue May 23, 2006 11:28 pm

Quoting TheSunseeker (Thread starter):
Does anyone know how many of the new cars are in which category(%)?

I have no numbers but I can imagine that "Classic" is the bestseller because it doesn't cost extra. Both "Elegance" and "Avantgarde" cost several 1000 EUR extra charge (depending on the model).

Quoting TheSunseeker (Thread starter):
Which one do you like best, and why?

Avantgarde is my favourite because it contains extra equipment I would order anyway (e.g. xenon lights, etc.).

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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Tue May 23, 2006 11:56 pm

For some reason, we don't have those in the US. For "decisions decisions", we just have the numbers. You can choose between the S320, S430, S500, and S600 (among others), and those have increasing amounts of equipment respectively. You then choose the colors and interior trim, and I think I can recall the heated steering wheel not available with a certain color...
 
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Tue May 23, 2006 11:57 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 1):
Avantgarde is my favourite because it contains extra equipment I would order anyway (e.g. xenon lights, etc.).

 thumbsup  My father had a E Class Avantgarde for a couple of years at the tail end of the 1990s and it was a very nice machine. It spent six weeks in the workshop following a bad accident and we were given an Elegance during that time so can compare.

The Avantgarde sat lower on the road and seemed to handle a lot better plus it had some exterior styling differences too, none of which I can remember, maybe it was xenon lights as Sabena332 mentions. I also remember inside we had black leather and black wood veneer bits as opposed to a rather horrible beige and bright brown wood on the Elegance.
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 12:03 am

In the US market the options on Mercedes-Benzs are generally packaged together. Take the E350 as an example. You have the following packages:

Appearance Package
Entertainment Package
Heating Package
Lighting Package
Moonroof Package
Premium Package -- this one combines the entertainment, heating, and moonroof packages.
Seat Package
Sport Package
Sport Package AMG

These run from as little as US$920 for the butt warmers to $4000 for the appearance package.


I'd suspect the basic US spec Benz comes in nicer equipped than the Classic trim Euro Benz... plus the base spec engine is more powerful/larger too.
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 12:39 am

I think Elegance is tilted a little bit more towards the luxury end than Avantgarde is, though if I am not mistaken it's not that one is cheaper than the other, it's more about which sort of style you prefer.

My family had one of the first new E-Classes (with the 4 headlights in front) in Turkey back in 1997 (I think it was 1997) and it was an Elegance model and even though it was only an E200 or something like that it had all the bells and whistles. The Avantgarde models that were being sold alongside the Elegance and Classic ones had a more contemporary interior whereas the Elegance was more old-world. Don't know about the handling.

I think in the UK some MB models have an available Sport trim as well.
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 1:40 am

Quoting TheSunseeker (Thread starter):
Which one do you like best, and why?

Definatley an Avantgarde. My mom has a 2005 E240 Avantgarde, which I frequently drive, and it is a very nice car - xenon lights, very nice interior, a 5 CD changer in a very conveniant place, etc. The only thing I don't like about it is that it is very low, and the side mirrors need some getting used to (they are quite small). But, then again, that could be just because I prefer SUVs to Saloons.
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 7:38 am

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 3):
The Avantgarde sat lower on the road and seemed to handle a lot better plus it had some exterior styling differences too

Exactly, the Avantgarde is more sporty in both handling and design.

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 5):
though if I am not mistaken it's not that one is cheaper than the other, it's more about which sort of style you prefer.

I think that Avantgarde is more expensive than Elegance, at least when you buy an E-Class. I know that because I am reading those Mercedes Benz brochures frequently when I am at my Merc dealer to wait that my car gets repaired.  Wink

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Wed May 24, 2006 7:50 am

If I ever own a Merc, it would definately be the AMG series, those things are beasts. C55 here I come, just have to trade in my Sentra.  Wink
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Wed May 24, 2006 7:57 am

Quoting Jutes85 (Reply 8):
If I ever own a Merc, it would definately be the AMG series, those things are beasts.

Recently I had a SL500 as rental car, it had 388hp and it felt like a rocket, now I will not imagine what is happening when you push the pedal of a S65 AMG (612hp, yes, 612hp  Wow!) down.

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Wed May 24, 2006 8:11 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 9):
now I will not imagine what is happening when you push the pedal of a S65 AMG (612hp, yes, 612hp Wow!) down.

With all the torque, you could probably slow the earth's rotation.
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Wed May 24, 2006 8:17 am

Quoting Jutes85 (Reply 10):
With all the torque, you could probably slow the earth's rotation.

 rotfl 

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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 8:42 am

My partner's Mercedes is Avantgarde- it's basically the most luxurious model, plus you get a different trim- chrome and a more contemporary look where the elegance is usually wood trim and the classic is just basic. The Avantgarde comes with all of the luxuries like parking sensors and rain sensors etc.
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 3:40 pm

Quoting TheSunseeker (Thread starter):
Mercedes-Benz has three categories for most of its cars.
Classic, Elegance and Avangarde.

You forgot bus Smile

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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 3:54 pm

Quoting TheSunseeker (Thread starter):
Which one do you like best, and why?

I suggest you save your money, buy another car, and let Mercedes suffer a little bit for building junk this past decade. They need to suffer in terms of sales, give them a little humility, which has been sorely lacking at Mercedes for most of the last century. Nothing can motivate you than a little humility.

BMW were always "2nd Best", so they motivated themselves to catch up. Toyota had the reputation of making cheap cars, and they now have Lexus. Humility drives you to build better products.
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 4:44 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 14):
I suggest you save your money, buy another car, and let Mercedes suffer a little bit for building junk this past decade. They need to suffer in terms of sales, give them a little humility, which has been sorely lacking at Mercedes for most of the last century. Nothing can motivate you than a little humility.

Mercedes has already improved a lot again. I suggest you never waste your money on a bmw.
1. They are the ugliest cars in the world (the new models anyway)
2. They are way overrated when it comes to driving performance.
3. They are for flashy people.
 
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Wed May 24, 2006 5:18 pm

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 15):
3. They are for flashy people.

WHAT?!? Mercedes are a lot more flash. The reputation here here in Europe at least is that Mercedes is for people who want to show off how much money they make, while BMW is just a good car (upper-midrange).

I've had 7 BMWs so far, and they have all been reliable and great to drive. My 2 Mercedes' were always in the shop, although they drove quite well (when they were running - most of my cars' problems were electrical).
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Wed May 24, 2006 5:41 pm

Oh lord, wont you buy me a mercedes benz ?
My friends all drive porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So lord, wont you buy me a mercedes benz ?

Oh lord, wont you buy me a color tv ?
Dialing for dollars is trying to find me.
I wait for delivery each day until three,
So oh lord, wont you buy me a color tv ?

Oh lord, wont you buy me a night on the town ?
Im counting on you, lord, please dont let me down.
Prove that you love me and buy the next round,
Oh lord, wont you buy me a night on the town ?

Everybody!
Oh lord, wont you buy me a mercedes benz ?
My friends all drive porsches, I must make amends,
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So oh lord, wont you buy me a mercedes benz ?

Thats it!


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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 6:39 pm

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 17):

Was that Janice Joplin?
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 8:13 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 1):
I have no numbers but I can imagine that "Classic" is the bestseller because it doesn't cost extra.

I think IF Classic is the best seller, only because of all the taxi's!

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 7):
I think that Avantgarde is more expensive than Elegance, at least when you buy an E-Class. I know that because I am reading those Mercedes Benz brochures frequently when I am at my Merc dealer to wait that my car gets repaired.

You actually wait for the repair jobs? Damn you must be waiting a lot  Smile
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 8:19 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 16):
WHAT?!? Mercedes are a lot more flash. The reputation here here in Europe at least is that Mercedes is for people who want to show off how much money they make, while BMW is just a good car (upper-midrange).

BMW is more sporty and more fresh than Audi and Benz
MB drivers showing off in my opinion are only the Avangarde people!
(no offence guys  Smile) I just hate the blue windows! Makes it look like a porncar. (Am I allowed to say that here haha?) This is also why my parents have Elegance - its visually not outstanding.
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 8:45 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 16):
WHAT?!? Mercedes are a lot more flash. The reputation here here in Europe at least is that Mercedes is for people who want to show off how much money they make, while BMW is just a good car (upper-midrange).

I've had 7 BMWs so far, and they have all been reliable and great to drive. My 2 Mercedes' were always in the shop, although they drove quite well (when they were running - most of my cars' problems were electrical).

BMW drivers are the ones who are being flashy. You know, in Denmark we even have a name for bmws. We call them Brian cars. We also have a much worse name for bmws which I cannot mention here as it would break a few forum rules  Silly. I don't know if it makes sense in english, but you probably get the idea. BMW is for smartass people who want to show how good they are and how cool they are. Mercedes Benz is much more laid back and for the established person. Not the wild life person. You had some bad experiences with mercedes benz. That's too bad, but a lot of people also have bad experiences with bmws, and I know a few of them. I know a guy who owns a bmw 3-series convertible, and a few weeks after he bought it (as a brand new car), the roof would not go down.
Mercedes Benz are working hard to do something about their bad image they have gotten lately, and all their newest cars are great. But as I have said before, it will take many years for them to re-establish a good reputation. Mercedes Benz have also gotten a new CEO and fired the old one to make sure that the quality of their cars will live up to Mercedes' very high standards.

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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 9:04 pm

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 21):
BMW is for smartass people who want to show how good they are and how cool they are.

true for all BMW people that I know personally.

Now, where do you think Audi fits in? They are bringing in some really nice changes...
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 9:05 pm

Quoting TheSunseeker (Reply 22):

Now, where do you think Audi fits in? They are bringing in some really nice changes...

I like Audi very much! Nice cars, they drive well and they look awesome! Especially all the new ones.
 
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Wed May 24, 2006 9:14 pm

I dont like the new "nose" system. However: the inside- brilliant.
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 9:17 pm

Depends on which Audi it is. I think it looks very brutal on the new Q7 Big grin

 
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Wed May 24, 2006 10:25 pm

the Q7 is not new. Its a Touareq/Cayenne with a body kit Big grin:D:D
I dont understand the hype around it.
But yes, its the only Audi where the nose is looking "not bad".
The thing is massive...the rear mirrow is bigger than this bloody pc screen here in my school...almost Big grin
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 10:49 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 14):
I suggest you save your money, buy another car, and let Mercedes suffer a little bit for building junk this past decade. They need to suffer in terms of sales, give them a little humility, which has been sorely lacking at Mercedes for most of the last century. Nothing can motivate you than a little humility.

 thumbsup  As much as I have loved my folks Benzes, I doubt I'd buy one for a while.

My father had a 2002 built S500 and after 2yrs the ignition motor went, cost $1500. Then in April 05 that battery started failing for no apparent reason, the Benz dealer couldn't fix it and it was becoming a big hassle. They thought it was a problem with the COMAND system (Navigation, TV , CD player unit) but weren't sure as it was a new thing to them. They were going to have to take the dashboard apart and then put it back together without re-assurance of fixing the problem. With worries about it rattling like buggery and a bill for new brake pads and disc estimated at $12,000 the keys were handed back. This was only after 90,000 miles!

At one stage my father was doing a lot of daytrips to AMS from LHR and was getting up at 3.30am to find the car battery flat. He was jump starting it and driving it to the airport and would come back at 9pm to find it as flat as a pancake so he started taking my little car and showed me how to jump start it off my mother's car and gave me the keys for a few weeks. I was miffed by the end but was fun driving around in it.

He spoke to another chap who he knows that had similar issues with his S Class and work colleague has a new style E Class that is showing similar problems at 1yr of driving.

Last week I went into our local MB dealer and took a look around at the new S Class and to be honest it hasn't restored my faith in the brand. I think technologically it is superb but I was looking at some of the switches and giving them a little jiggle about and it felt like something I'd find on a $15,000 Kia  thumbsdown . Apparently the new CLS is meant to be much better, but time will tell. If it turns out to be decent it could well be on the shopping list next time around. Either way it'll be a while before my father shells out the fat end of £100,000 for a new Mercedes again!

My mother's side of the family seem to have a bit of a fetish with MB's. My grandfather has an old S Class, my uncles have four between them; a CLK55, SL55, E430 estate and a CLK500. The uncles ones are only a year or two old and have no end of problems whereas the old S Class soldiers on happily with no problems  Smile One of my uncles appears to have started the ball rolling amongst them and has recently bought an Audi A8, caused a bit of a stir at the last family get together and everyone seemed to really like it.

As for BMWs I don't think they are immune either. One of my friends owns a BMW 740 that is 5yrs old and he has had no end of problems with it. Sounds rather similar to the problems my father experienced on his Mercedes, the latest in a long line of problems has been the radio which broke. Apparently a new radio is $1100 plus installation and this is the last straw for him. He now has a boombox plugged into the cigarette lighter in the back seat and plans to offload the POS to Carmax sometime soon!

My parents have recently started buying Audis and think they seem excellent so far. Seem solidly built and very nicely fitted out, they drive very well too. When my time comes, as things stand, I'll happily take an A8 over an S Class or 7 Series. When paying towards and into six figures for a car you can't have the worries that the bloody starter motor is going to give up on life after a couple of years  thumbsdown 

As cfalk says Mercedes really need to sort their act out. I love the looks of their cars, the image, the technical qualities and even the way they drive but as far as I am concerned they can go rot in hell for being complacent with making unreliable cars these past few years.
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Wed May 24, 2006 11:08 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 14):
I suggest you save your money, buy another car, and let Mercedes suffer a little bit for building junk this past decade.

IMHO it began to go downhill after they retired the W124 cars, which were the epitome of modern Benzes. Truly innovative cars in their design, safety, and performance when they first came out and still look good today, despite being a 20 year old design. Somehow I would like to be able to justify buying one and ditching my Mazda, but I doubt that would ever happen. As good a car as a well maintained 300E would be, its still a 10-20 year old car.

Unfortunately since the W124 the E-class has become an increasingly bloated old-mans car.
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Wed May 24, 2006 11:22 pm

I really disagree about Mercedes. The new builds that they are producing now, are of far superior quality than has been seen before. We have only had great customer service from the Mercedes' dealerships and their cars remain as some of the most prestigious on the streets, not to mention safest and most robust.
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Wed May 24, 2006 11:29 pm

What is interesting is that here in the USA M-B cars are usually sold fully loaded with very few options. That's why the new S550 sedan has such a exorbitantly high list price.  Wow!
 
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Wed May 24, 2006 11:42 pm

Quoting Raffik (Reply 29):
I really disagree about Mercedes. The new builds that they are producing now, are of far superior quality than has been seen before. We have only had great customer service from the Mercedes' dealerships and their cars remain as some of the most prestigious on the streets, not to mention safest and most robust.

While I agree 100% that the current models are of high quality, I think previous models were of higher quality. My grandfather had an old E-Class (around '91 or '92 model) which lasted for 13 years without a single major problem... the quality of old Mercedes Benz cars is excellent, and I think the only reason there is more problems with new models is because of the problems that come with brand new technology.
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Wed May 24, 2006 11:49 pm

Quoting TheSunseeker (Reply 26):
the Q7 is not new. Its a Touareq/Cayenne with a body kit

LOL Big grin except that it is way longer than the Touareg and the Cayenne, but yes, built on the same platform as them.
 
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Thu May 25, 2006 12:49 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 16):
My 2 Mercedes' were always in the shop, although they drove quite well (when they were running - most of my cars' problems were electrical).

 checkmark 

Seems to be a common Mercedes problem. My car's electric is the horror, I have frequently problems with it. Lately it was the electrical roof, before that I had problems with the electric seat adjustment, with the COMAND APS system, etc.  Angry

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Thu May 25, 2006 1:21 am

Mercedes Benz are working hard to do something about their bad image they have gotten lately, and all their newest cars are great.

I'm sure that someone that drives a old Volvo would know about Mercedes long term reliability first hand.
 
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Thu May 25, 2006 2:17 am

Quoting Flight152 (Reply 34):
I'm sure that someone that drives a old Volvo would know about Mercedes long term reliability first hand.

So according to you, you can't have an opinion about more expensive cars than your own?
Typical comment from a bmw owner who is trying to defend his bmw
And yes, I do know about their reliability, because *acidentally* my dad has a 14 year old mercedes which looks and drives like a new car.

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Thu May 25, 2006 2:31 am

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 15):
3. They are for flashy people.

Nice stereotype. Hell, there are more Bimmers than Toyotas here anyway.

Quoting TheSunseeker (Reply 26):
the Q7 is not new. Its a Touareq/Cayenne with a body kit Big grin:D
I dont understand the hype around it.

It's another excuse to slap an Audi badge on a warmed-over VW and charge $10-15k more.

Quoting Raffik (Reply 29):
I really disagree about Mercedes. The new builds that they are producing now, are of far superior quality than has been seen before.

Not according to JD Power and the Power Circle Ratings. In the entry level luxury class, the BMW 3 series, Lexus IS 300, Infiniti G35, Jag x-Type, Cadillac CTS and Acura TL all ring in higher than the M-B CLK class.

In the mid-luxury class, the Lexus GS300, BMW 5-series sedan, Cadillac Deville, Jaguar S-type, Buick Park Ave, Acura RL, Audi A6, and Lincoln Town Car all trumped the M-B E-class.

And in the premium luxury class, both the Lexus LS 430 and SC 430 topped the MB S-class and SL class.

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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Thu May 25, 2006 2:38 am

Quoting Slider (Reply 36):
Nice stereotype. Hell, there are more Bimmers than Toyotas here anyway.

Just like when people stereotype Mercedes owners by saying that people only buy them to show how much money/power they have.
Hell there are more Mercedes Benz cars here than there are bmws anyway.

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Thu May 25, 2006 2:40 am

Quoting Slider (Reply 36):
Not according to JD Power and the Power Circle Ratings. In the entry level luxury class, the BMW 3 series, Lexus IS 300, Infiniti G35, Jag x-Type, Cadillac CTS and Acura TL all ring in higher than the M-B CLK class.

In the mid-luxury class, the Lexus GS300, BMW 5-series sedan, Cadillac Deville, Jaguar S-type, Buick Park Ave, Acura RL, Audi A6, and Lincoln Town Car all trumped the M-B E-class.

And in the premium luxury class, both the Lexus LS 430 and SC 430 topped the MB S-class and SL class.

Again, wait a few years. They cant change their image overnight. Also I just read an article about 8 different SUVs where the new ML class beats the rest of the contestants. Source: Autobild.
And a few weeks ago in the newspaper, the new Mercedes R-class won against the Audi Q7.

By the way: The Mercedes S-class is the most popular luxury car worldwide.

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Thu May 25, 2006 3:53 am

Quoting Slider (Reply 36):
3. They are for flashy people.

I'm not flashy, neither is my '06 330i. I drive aggresively and sometimes with clients - the car is perfect for my job. What's with the stereotypes? Are you insecure?
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Thu May 25, 2006 4:46 am

Quoting Aerobalance (Reply 39):
I'm not flashy, neither is my '06 330i. I drive aggresively and sometimes with clients - the car is perfect for my job. What's with the stereotypes? Are you insecure?

Are you writing that message for me or for slider?
Some people who own bmws are not flashy but tons of bmw owners are. I am glad you are not one of them. BMWs tend to look very flashy though. You see lots of people styling their bmws with huge spoilers and skirts. Sorry but that is just not me. I think it looks cheap and stupid. Even today I saw BMW 7-series with huge exhausts which does not fit the car at all.
 
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Thu May 25, 2006 6:51 am

And yes, I do know about their reliability, because *acidentally* my dad has a 14 year old mercedes which looks and drives like a new car.

Which does nothing to prove the reliability of the new Mercedes models. Thanks for proving my point.
 
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Thu May 25, 2006 6:54 am

Quoting Flight152 (Reply 41):

Which does nothing to prove the reliability of the new Mercedes models. Thanks for proving my point.

Thanks for proving what point? Who said we were only talking about new Mercedes cars? Do you think you're the expert when it comes to Mercedes then? You don't even own one. I read articles in car magazines all the time, I know what I am talking about unlike you. Please refer to some of my previous posts above.

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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Thu May 25, 2006 7:07 am

Who said we were only talking about new Mercedes cars?

Slider. Reply 36

Do you think you're the expert when it comes to Mercedes then?

No.

You don't even own one.

Neither do you.

I know what I am talking about unlike you

Wow, how childish.
 
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Thu May 25, 2006 3:33 pm

Quoting Flight152 (Reply 43):

Slider. Reply 36

Funny because I was already mentioning my fathers car in reply 35

Quoting Flight152 (Reply 43):

No.

Good. Then there's one thing we agree on here.

Quoting Flight152 (Reply 43):

Neither do you.

No, I know a few people who own Mercedes cars though.

Quoting Flight152 (Reply 43):
Wow, how childish.

Sorry but I have seen a lot of your posts now in both this discussion and others. That is what I based that comment on.
According to your profile, it says that you're between 21 and 25. I would say that you're the one who's acting childish here by saying that because I drive a volvo, I cannot have opinions about BMW and Mercedes.

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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Thu May 25, 2006 3:51 pm

Quoting Jutes85 (Reply 10):
With all the torque, you could probably slow the earth's rotation.

Or just smoke up the skies.
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RE: Mercedes Benz Question

Thu May 25, 2006 6:02 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 33):
My car's electric is the horror,

I'm surprised noone bitched about the E class headlights yet!
I've had to chance them so many times...and still cant get it right without
getting dirty haha  Smile
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