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Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:00 am

Well, at least for now, that lays that to rest.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13134150/

Personally, I don't think he has the taste for that battle anymore, after the agonizing one of '00.

I have a feeling if a Democrat wins the White House in '08, he could be the next Secretary of the Interior or Secretary of Energy. That more suits his passion and his expertise.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:02 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
he could be the next Secretary of the Interior

Jesus that is a scary thought.

Talk about locking up public lands from use by the people.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:10 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
he could be the next Secretary of the Interior or Secretary of Energy. That more suits his passion and his expertise.

Perhaps, but I doubt that a former VP and presidential candidate will be happy in a low profile cabinet position. Now, if it were the State Department...
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:13 am

Please Gore run for the white house......if you don't run the better chance Hillary is going to win the primary and and I don't even want to think about it...

 crying 
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:50 am

Quoting Boeinglover24 (Reply 3):
Please Gore run for the white house......if you don't run the better chance Hillary is going to win the primary and and I don't even want to think about it...

Why should he bother? The Republicans have already nominated Hillary for the Dems!  Wink
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:51 am

Yeah, this is kind of disappointing !

I was looking forward to seeing posters of Al Gore-wearing a red white and blue Speedo and cape,and straddling an Official Global Warming Hockeystick.

(It would remind us of his environmental crusade, and suggest to the ladies that he had all the "package" they could handle.)

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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:12 am

Quoting L-188 (Reply 1):
Jesus that is a scary thought.

Actually, it's not. After Sec-Int's who are more interested in promoting things that destroy nature instead of protecting it, it'd be a refreshing change. The
Bush people don't know beans about that, and only cave in to oil interests, and electric interests, not keeping some natural beauty in this nation.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 1):
Talk about locking up public lands from use by the people.

Actually, he'd probably do more to preserve public lands so people can enjoy them, and not simply use them for logging and expansion.

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 2):
Now, if it were the State Department...

Not his strong point. His interest is in the enviornment, and he'd be an effective leader where I mentioned.

Quoting Boeinglover24 (Reply 3):
Please Gore run for the white house......if you don't run the better chance Hillary is going to win the primary and and I don't even want to think about it...

Then I'm all for it, because I'd love to see Hillary win just to upset people like you, and send the conservatives into a frenzy.  Big grin

And the way things are going, the GOP won't have much of a chance to beat any Democrat in '08 unless "HEEEYAH!" Dean gets into the fray.

Quoting Mrmeangenes (Reply 5):

 rotfl 

Now, that was a good one.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:12 am

Was anybody actually asking him to run?
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:54 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
I have a feeling if a Democrat wins the White House in '08, he could be the next Secretary of the Interior or Secretary of Energy. That more suits his passion and his expertise.

No way. Gore will be the American technology czar. Remember, he invented the internet!
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:02 pm

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 2):
Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
he could be the next Secretary of the Interior or Secretary of Energy. That more suits his passion and his expertise.

Perhaps, but I doubt that a former VP and presidential candidate will be happy in a low profile cabinet position. Now, if it were the State Department...

Agree that Gore as Secretary of Energy or Interior would be a disaster, and that he would never take those posts. He was Vice President - anything less that State or Defense would be unthinkable.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:17 pm

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 9):
Agree that Gore as Secretary of Energy or Interior would be a disaster

ROTFL. After the industrial yesmen and women that Bush has had? Uh, OK.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:23 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
Secretary of the Interior

 faint 

That'll put the fishing, oil, gas and logging industry back about thirty years.

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 2):
Now, if it were the State Department...

In the janitorial dept maybe? Just what position would you suggest SFO?

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 9):
Defense

 rotfl  rotfl 

And here I thought RUMSFELD was the worst SecDef in my lifetime . . . .

Al Gore! Ha Ha Ha, Mr. "I went to Vietnam with my Typewriter and I was an E5" . . .

Man, only one joke thread a day please . . . it's gonna be a long night shift.

How about if Mr. Gore just retire to some tree farm in Tennessee . . . there he can explore his passions of saving the wilderness and watch the spotted owls shit on his front porch.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:49 pm

Silly Al Gore, trying to wake people up to the damage Some People are doing to the entire planet's fragile ecosystems. After all! They're not *nature's* resources-they're *ours!* Any Good American knows: it's the trees that cause air pollution anyhow, and damn the spotted owls, *I've got a camper to haul!*

I wish we had a president who'd take on the Real Issues facing America today, like making hetero-only marriage safe forever and ever (amen) and maybe making sure there's a felony flag-burning law. That'd be keen.

An endless war'd be a major national plus, too. But ol' Gorey, hah, I bet he'd never do stuff like that.
 
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:03 pm

Quoting Maury (Reply 12):
and damn the spotted owls, *I've got a camper to haul!*

Yup, and don't you (or Al) forget it.

Alaska has done quite well with it's environment without the meddling of the Federal Gov't . . . I defy you or anyone else to find a state with stricter regulations . . . save the nutjobs in California anyway.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:25 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11):
Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 2):
Now, if it were the State Department...

In the janitorial dept maybe? Just what position would you suggest SFO?

If it were up to me, I'd send him as far as possible from Washington DC. I was thinking in the State Department under the scenario that our friend Falcon proposed... which is a waste of time, since McCain will get to the WH and Santorum will become the best VP this country has ever seen. Big grin
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:18 pm

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 14):
If it were up to me, I'd send him as far as possible from Washington DC. I was thinking in the State Department under the scenario that our friend Falcon proposed... which is a waste of time, since McCain will get to the WH and Santorum will become the best VP this country has ever seen

I'd make it China (I believe he has many admirerers there)but Mc Cain ?
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:34 pm

Quoting Mrmeangenes (Reply 15):
I believe I'd post a write-in vote for Hillary if McCain were running.

 spit 

You're of course kidding right . . . .

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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:36 pm

Quoting Pope (Reply 8):
No way. Gore will be the American technology czar. Remember, he invented the internet!

Your'e right! Thanks for giving him credit for that. Yet another way he contributed to bettering American society.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:13 pm

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 14):
If it were up to me, I'd send him as far as possible from Washington DC.

Ambassador to Iraq. He can then suggest to them how to greenly produce their oil, peacefully deal with their insurgents, and re-invent the internet for them. He'll also be able to proudly display the Oscar he's going to get for best documentary picture. And it keeps him out of whomever is elected Presidents hair. Even better, maybe Ambassador to Iran, he can straighten them out on their nuke ambitions without ruffling a feather.

Yep, the dems are going to sweep in the next two election cycles and then we'll find out what kind of super hero's we've stupidly kept in the minority for so long. I can't wait to see Nancy Pelosi as Speaker and John Conyers as chair of the house judiciary committee. I'm sure from day one they will vote for what they've demanding since '94, shared power for the minority!  laughing   laughing   laughing   laughing   laughing   laughing   laughing 

Fortunately I have no fear of the above since as I've said before it takes more than 8 years to destroy a country of this size and complexity.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:41 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 10):
ROTFL. After the industrial yesmen and women that Bush has had? Uh, OK.

I'm not comparing Gore to anyone else. I'm just suggesting that Gore would be a lousy Sec Energy or Interior. He's been the Vice President. Interior and Energy are NOT major Cabinet posts. Gore - like all politicians - has a massive ego, and in the unlikely instance of his agreeing to take either of those posts, I suspect his interest would either wane or he'd become a Cabinet troublemaker, stepping out of his lane.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11):
And here I thought RUMSFELD was the worst SecDef in my lifetime . . . .

Al Gore! Ha Ha Ha, Mr. "I went to Vietnam with my Typewriter and I was an E5" . . .

Man, only one joke thread a day please . . . it's gonna be a long night shift

I agree he'd be worse than Rumsfeld. I'm only saying that because of his ego, the only Cabinet posts Gore would likely consider are State and Defense.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:02 am

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 18):
Fortunately I have no fear of the above since as I've said before it takes more than 8 years to destroy a country of this size and complexity.

This is true, as the last five plus years have shown us.

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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:07 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
Well, at least for now, that lays that to rest.

So Gore *won't* be losing the next election? There's a shock Silly....
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:47 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 20):
This is true, as the last five plus years have shown us.

And the 8 before that, and the 4 before that, or 12 if you want to look at it that way, or the 4 before that, or the 8 before that, lumping two together there, and so forth and so on. Of course the dems had 40 years to bankrupt the nation and some of their programs just might do that even if they are not in power.

My prediciton, the dems will not let Gore have another chance and he knows it. When he conceded in 00 he pissed off a lot of people who wanted to follow a scorched earth policy.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:15 am

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 17):
Your'e right! Thanks for giving him credit for that. Yet another way he contributed to bettering American society.

Please tell me you do not actually believe that.

IF the DNC actually wants to win this time, they need a good solid candidate. This is something they are not good at picking.

Evan Bayh, the Senator from Indiana, a VERY republican state, is the perfect man for the job. He and his dad Birch Bayh were both two term democrat governors of a truly conservative state, and VERY popular.

He is a powerful senator, and highly respected. So of course the DNC begged him NOT to run last time.....WTF?????? Here they have a democrat that appeals to both sides of the isle, and republicans voters in Indiana, and they don't even consider him.

He said not this time, he's in. This is a guy that could easily get republicans to vote for him, why do I get the feeling the DNC will not support him again? Its no wonder the the democrats have lost so much ground, shooting themselves in the foot so often.

Lets distance Gore from the most popular democrat since JFK, Bill Clinton.

Lets pick a guy who is on tape possibly lying to congress about troop activites in Viet Nam for obvious personal political gain over a democrat that won Indiana twice, the state that turns red on the election board first or second every single presidential election.

What will it be this time? Bring in the clowns.....
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:53 am

Quoting DeltaDC9 (Reply 23):
Please tell me you do not actually believe that.

Did he not create, push, and champion the bill that made available to the public what we now call the internet?
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:27 am

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 24):
Did he not create, push, and champion the bill that made available to the public what we now call the internet?

You mean when he said "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet" he was just foolin us???

Gore didn't create the internet, despite his clumsy attempt to take such credit. He did sponsor the "High Performance Computing Act of 1991 which advanced the growth and mainstreaming of the Internet during the 1990s," but I seriously doubt he personally wrote the legislation. Staffers and counsel write legislation, for which legislators subsequently take credit for.

Even Vince Cerf, one of Gore's defenders on the subject, stated that "While it is not accurate to say that VP Gore invented Internet, he has played a powerful role in policy terms that has supported its continued growth and application, for which we should be thankful."

Furthermore, the bill didn't "make the Internet available to the public." It already was available. Check out the following link. http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-h...pertext/hypertext/WWW/History.html
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:35 am

I just heard Gore on the Radio , he was talking now about this inter planatery crisis comeing in 10 years ??? Now what has America done to the Planets ??
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:06 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 25):
Even Vince Cerf, one of Gore's defenders on the subject, stated that "While it is not accurate to say that VP Gore invented Internet, he has played a powerful role in policy terms that has supported its continued growth and application, for which we should be thankful."

Exactly. He said "creating". Right wingers, in their infinate need to "label" people for their immature word association games (you know, Kennedy is to drunk as Clinton is to BJ as Dean is to "yaaar" as Kerry is to flip-flop) changed it to "invented". There's a difference.

Gore can stake a claim to that. Thanks for backing me up!
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:55 am

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 27):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 25):
Even Vince Cerf, one of Gore's defenders on the subject, stated that "While it is not accurate to say that VP Gore invented Internet, he has played a powerful role in policy terms that has supported its continued growth and application, for which we should be thankful."

Exactly. He said "creating". Right wingers, in their infinate need to "label" people for their immature word association games (you know, Kennedy is to drunk as Clinton is to BJ as Dean is to "yaaar" as Kerry is to flip-flop) changed it to "invented". There's a difference.

Gore can stake a claim to that. Thanks for backing me up!

Splitting some mighty fine hairs, I think.

Yes, Al Gore didn't "invent" the Internet. He also didn't "create" it, so where you find comfort in the distinction, I see just another self-promoting politician trying to take credit for something he or she didn't do.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:55 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 28):
Yes, Al Gore didn't "invent" the Internet. He also didn't "create" it, so where you find comfort in the distinction, I see just another self-promoting politician trying to take credit for something he or she didn't do.

Like Super Reagan single-handedly destroying the USSR?
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:08 am

The only interesting thing about Gore is that he follows the Nixon precedent exactly: Nixon was VP for 8 years, lost a very close presidential election, said he would never run again, was out of office for 8 years, then ran for president and won in spite of the fact that many people hated him.

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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:53 am

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 29):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 28):
Yes, Al Gore didn't "invent" the Internet. He also didn't "create" it, so where you find comfort in the distinction, I see just another self-promoting politician trying to take credit for something he or she didn't do.

Like Super Reagan single-handedly destroying the USSR?

If Reagan ever said "I destroyed the USSR all by myself," or words to that effect, then yes, I'd paint him with the same brush. But I doubt he ever did.

Here's what I don't get - Gore made a claim he couldn't possibly back up. He screwed up. And instead of simply admitting the obvious, Gore supporters try to point the spotlight elsewhere. Why?

Quoting Bobster2 (Reply 30):
The only interesting thing about Gore is that he follows the Nixon precedent exactly: Nixon was VP for 8 years, lost a very close presidential election, said he would never run again, was out of office for 8 years, then ran for president and won in spite of the fact that many people hated him.

The parallels are spooky. Only difference - Nixon was a ruthless opportunist who didn't think twice about trashing an opponents reputation. Gore, for all his faults, is nothing like Nixon in that regard.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:17 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 31):
If Reagan ever said "I destroyed the USSR all by myself," or words to that effect, then yes, I'd paint him with the same brush. But I doubt he ever did.

No, but the right wing does.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 31):
Here's what I don't get - Gore made a claim he couldn't possibly back up. He screwed up. And instead of simply admitting the obvious, Gore supporters try to point the spotlight elsewhere. Why?

He absolutly can back it up, as I stated.

But anyway, instead of admiting the obvious, Bush supporters point the spotlight elsewhere. Why?  Wink
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:37 am

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 32):
He absolutly can back it up, as I stated.

But anyway, instead of admiting the obvious, Bush supporters point the spotlight elsewhere. Why

No, you can't. Gore didn't "create" the internet. He sponsored - he didn't draft - legislation that provided federal support for the expansion of the internet. That is far different from "creating" the internet.

Did you even bother to read the article I provided the link to? The one that refers to the real history of the World Wide Web?

And in this discussion, we are talking about Al Gore. Not George Bush. Since he didn't claim to have created the internet, why are you bringing him into this discussion?
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:10 am

Quoting Bobster2 (Reply 30):
The only interesting thing about Gore is that he follows the Nixon precedent exactly:

Not exactly. Nixon ran for Governor of California in 1964 and lost uttering his famous phrase, "You won't have Nixon to kick around anymore!".
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:29 pm

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 33):
No, you can't.



Quoting Halls120 (Reply 33):
Did you even bother to read the article I provided the link to? The one that refers to the real history of the World Wide Web?

Yes I can, and yes I did. You can spin it however you want (I know being a right winger, you can't give a Dem credit for anything, (remember, they're only responsible for the "bad" things) but Gore has a legitimate claim here, like it or not.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 33):
And in this discussion, we are talking about Al Gore. Not George Bush. Since he didn't claim to have created the internet, why are you bringing him into this discussion?

To show your hypocracy. I wasn't "shining the spotlight" anywhere else. I was addressing the issue head on. Bring up the disaster in Iraq, and your types are the first to start complaning "'bout dem fags gettin marrid". THAT is what I was getting at, in case you didn't pick up on it.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:41 pm

Quoting Pope (Reply 8):
No way. Gore will be the American technology czar. Remember, he invented the internet!

He never said that -- right wing people trying to rain on his parade added the words to his mouth.
 
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:53 pm

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 35):
Yes I can, and yes I did. You can spin it however you want (I know being a right winger, you can't give a Dem credit for anything, (remember, they're only responsible for the "bad" things) but Gore has a legitimate claim here, like it or not

I'm not spinning anything. Gore claimed that he "created" the Internet. He simply misspoke, but people like you just can't seem to admit it. I've posted a link to an article that details the real history of the World Wide Web - which you apparently choose to ignore - which clearly indicates that its development predates the bill that Gore sponsored.

On what grounds do you choose to categorize me as a "right-winger?" Simply because I choose to refuse to idolize Gore on this issue?

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 35):
To show your hypocracy. I wasn't "shining the spotlight" anywhere else. I was addressing the issue head on. Bring up the disaster in Iraq, and your types are the first to start complaning "'bout dem fags gettin marrid". THAT is what I was getting at, in case you didn't pick up on it.

How have I been a hypocrite on this issue? And what do you mean "your types"?

Please point to a single post I've authored where I've tried to shift the discussion away from Iraq to a diatribe about gay marriage. I'd be quite fascinated, since I support the right of all citizens to enjoy the legal protections of matrimony.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:46 pm

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 24):
Did he not create, push, and champion the bill that made available to the public what we now call the internet?

He and MANY MANY others pushed a bill, that's about it other than using his high profile to garner public acceptance.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 25):
Furthermore, the bill didn't "make the Internet available to the public." It already was available. Check out the following link. http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-h....html

As a Computer Science major, I was using the Internet in 1982 and the WWW in 1990. My AOL account was created in March 1991, and I was writing web apps by 1992. That bill made things easier for OTHER people to CONTINUE to create the WWW, but the Internet has been around since before Gore was in politics. The names have changed, but the players remain the same.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 26):
I just heard Gore on the Radio , he was talking now about this inter planetary crisis coming in 10 years ??? Now what has America done to the Planets ??

Is he ready to admit that the Sun is in a hot phase? Mars has a global warming trend similar to Earths, we know this for sure. If he did so, he would regain some respect from me.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 28):
Yes, Al Gore didn't "invent" the Internet. He also didn't "create" it, so where you find comfort in the distinction, I see just another self-promoting politician trying to take credit for something he or she didn't do.

He actually did champion a very important bill, along with many others who never took such credit. The DOD and the university system created the Internet, which is a term not interchangeable with the WWW.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 29):
Like Super Reagan single-handedly destroying the USSR?

He never said that, he said it was his goal when he ran for office to end the Cold War. He did affect world events towards that goal, and anyone who thinks he did not is a fool. Others played major roles as well, and no one, including Reagan, said they did not. He gave much credit to Gorbachev, Thatcher, and many others.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 31):
If Reagan ever said "I destroyed the USSR all by myself," or words to that effect, then yes, I'd paint him with the same brush. But I doubt he ever did.

He did not.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 32):
No, but the right wing does.

No, they do not, cheerleaders with no respect for the truth on both sides make silly uneducated claims, no one has a corner on that market.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 32):
He absolutly can back it up, as I stated.

It is a fact that Gore overstated his role on more than one occasion. Human nature.

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 35):
but Gore has a legitimate claim here, like it or not.

That was spun by him and his people as all politicians do on both sides. Just admit the truth! His only valid claim is that he worked on legislation, which was his job. He did not create anything, and everything would have happened just fine without that bill, because there was too much momentum to stop it.

Quoting Tootallsd (Reply 36):
He never said that

Actually, he worded it so that that was what would be inferred by his comments, it was to his advantage, that is what politicians do.

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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:45 pm

Quoting DeltaDC9 (Reply 38):
Is he ready to admit that the Sun is in a hot phase? Mars has a global warming trend similar to Earths, we know this for sure. If he did so, he would regain some respect from me.

I am not sure what he was refering to , just heard him talking about a "inter planatery crisis" which of course could aplly to just about anything. Sorry I will look for the interview I guess.
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:49 pm

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 39):
I am not sure what he was refering to

I wonder if he has been hanging around Travolta and Cruise? That would explain it! Big grin
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:15 am

Quoting DeltaDC9 (Reply 38):
As a Computer Science major, I was using the Internet in 1982 and the WWW in 1990. My AOL account was created in March 1991, and I was writing web apps by 1992. That bill made things easier for OTHER people to CONTINUE to create the WWW, but the Internet has been around since before Gore was in politics. The names have changed, but the players remain the same.

How dare you! You are going to burn for your perfidy! Don't you realize one can NEVER criticize Al Gore????  biggrin 
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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:56 am

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 34):
Quoting Bobster2 (Reply 30):
The only interesting thing about Gore is that he follows the Nixon precedent exactly:

Not exactly. Nixon ran for Governor of California in 1964 and lost uttering his famous phrase, "You won't have Nixon to kick around anymore!".

That's a good point (except it was 1962).

The precedent that Nixon set was to lose the presidency and lose his home state. It's just that Nixon needed two elections to lose both, Gore managed to lose both in one election.  

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RE: Gore: No WH Run In '08

Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:13 pm

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 41):
How dare you! You are going to burn for your perfidy! Don't you realize one can NEVER criticize Al Gore????

I will now go to a corner and recite DNC talking points until all the bad thoughts go away.
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