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fxramper
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$600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:42 pm

AP is reporting that the DHS and DOT are using private flights to ferry back illegals to Mexico. Cost to house illegals was averaging over $9,000 (No time period was given). The cost to fly one back on a charter is only $600 one way.

You think their getting ff miles?   

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cfalk
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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:07 pm

Quoting FXramper (Thread starter):
AP is reporting that the DHS and DOT are using private flights to ferry back illegals to Mexico. Cost to house illegals was averaging over $9,000 (No time period was given). The cost to fly one back on a charter is only $600 one way

I've been proposing this for ages. Don't bus them to the other side of the border, where they can walk a few hundred yards and try again. Fly them to Mexico City! Cheaper in the long run and a deterrant to those who don't want to go to Mexico City and find their way back to the border.
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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:26 pm

Honestly? It won't work.

Several European countries have been flying illegal immigrants back home for years, and it hasn't stopped anything. There have been cases of people that almost could ask for frequent flier benefits on those flights.

It might work as a PR measure in the sense of "We're doing something about the problem"... but it's not going to have any real effect.

People will continue trying to get to countries where they think they'll have a better life: those that can will do it legally, those that - for whatever reason - cannot, will continue doing it illegally.

Regardless of whether they'll be shipped, bussed or flown back.

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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:58 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
Fly them to Mexico City! Cheaper in the long run and a deterrant to those who don't want to go to Mexico City and find their way back to the border

Prividing Mexico will let you fly them there......

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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:08 pm

To hell with Private Carriers - there's gotta be ONE C-130 that's not busy with the war . . . .
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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:25 pm

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 3):
Prividing Mexico will let you fly them there......

If Mexico refuses landing rights for repatriating Mexican citizens, I should think that is a violation of all sorts of international law. Mexico refuses to allow their own citizens to return to their county... Have to love the headline.
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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:39 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
To hell with Private Carriers - there's gotta be ONE C-130 that's not busy with the war . . . .

That would probably be more expensive than buying a bunch of seats on American Airlines, or chartering a 757.
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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:47 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 6):
That would probably be more expensive than buying a bunch of seats on American Airlines, or chartering a 757.

Doubt it . . . a Herc, if my memory serves me, costs about $4500 per flight hour to operate . . . not including the cost of the crew. Got 100 deportees, at $600 a ticket that's $60K.

That herc, on say ELP-MEX will cost you about 6 hours flight time, r/t. So, about $27K altogether . . .
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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:00 pm

Hell lets give them a challenge, and drop them off on the resort island of Cozumel!
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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:46 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 8):
Hell lets give them a challenge, and drop them off on the resort island of Cozumel!

With or without a parachute
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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:24 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
If Mexico refuses landing rights for repatriating Mexican citizens, I

I believe our agreement with Mexico that Mexican carriers are used to transport them back to Mexico City or where ever. MX was flying a 757 in Tucson for this purpose. Can some one in Tucson answer if the flights are still going.
 
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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:27 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
Quoting Greasespot (Reply 3):
Prividing Mexico will let you fly them there......

If Mexico refuses landing rights for repatriating Mexican citizens, I should think that is a violation of all sorts of international law. Mexico refuses to allow their own citizens to return to their county... Have to love the headline.

Vietnam e.g. used to refuse the forcible return of her own citizens, same as several African countries.

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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:30 am

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 3):

Prividing Mexico will let you fly them there......



Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 11):

Vietnam e.g. used to refuse the forcible return of her own citizens, same as several African countries.

Then just drop them off at Gitmo, release them into Cuba. Everyone's happy.  Wink

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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:14 am

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9):
With or without a parachute

No fly them in, just now they have to get to the mainland to start the return trip to the USA!
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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:37 am

When you consider that many of the Illegals in the USA are from Southern states of Mexico and Central American countries, even sending them well away from the border really won't make any difference. These are people who are willing to take the chances to travel 1000 or more miles for decent incomes to better themselves and their families.
We have to make the laws as to employers who knowingly employ illegals much stricter, perhaps with them having them pay stiff fines to pay for these flights and the related detention costs. Perhaps if they were high enough, pay would go up enough for Americans to take these jobs.
 
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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:20 pm

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 1):
ve been proposing this for ages. Don't bus them to the other side of the border, where they can walk a few hundred yards and try again. Fly them to Mexico City! Cheaper in the long run and a deterrant to those who don't want to go to Mexico City and find their way back to the border.

Whether it be 100 feet or 100 miles, the distance won't matter no matter how large, they will still try to come back.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
If Mexico refuses landing rights for repatriating Mexican citizens, I should think that is a violation of all sorts of international law. Mexico refuses to allow their own citizens to return to their county... Have to love the headline.

You can refuse entry to your country even if they are your own citizen. Just because I am an American citizen doesn't give me an automatic right to enter the country. It's their country and they can allow who they want in citizenship or not.
 
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RE: $600 One-way Ticket For Illegal Immigrants!

Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:25 pm

Quoting Airbus3801 (Reply 15):
It's their country

Who is this they you are referring to?

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