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Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:20 am

Well, i'm going for a 10 day vacation with my parents and there is a chance that STS-121 could be launched whilst i'm meeting mickey & minnie.

Has anyone seen one before and is it worth the journey from Orlando to Kennedy?
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:30 am

I don't want to spoil your good news, but you need to be careful about getting excited about this..

A number of factors can ultimately cause a delay in the launch, as you are aware..

1) Weather this time of year in FL can be very unpredictable, especially right now.
2) Since they're still 'on-edge' after Columbia, you'll find that they're more likely to scrub due to an anomaly in the system than ever..

It'd be great if you saw it, and i hope you do, just don't get ur hopes up!

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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:32 am

When is this planned for? I'll be in Orlando the last week in July.
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:32 am

Current launch window is the 1st to the 19th of july...
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:44 am

I would check the weather the day of the launch and if it is overly cloudy or storms are forecasted for around the launch time then I'd think hard about going over to see it. If you do it I would make it a day and also go down to Cocoa Beach and visit Ron Jon Surf Shop (incredibly tacky but fun) or go visit Daytona and see the NASCAR museum at the racetrack.

If you do go then the best place to see it is from Titusville right on the Indian River. You won't be able to go to the KSC Visitor's Center the day of the launch as they will have the complex closed off unless you have a car pass (which you won't.) Just follow the cars on US1 and find a place along the river to watch it though some places might want to charge you $10 or so to park there (look for free spots as they do exist up and down the road.) You'll see the VAB (Vehicle Assembly Building) and the two shuttle pads (39A and 39B) across the river. There are always folks there to see a launch so just chat them up and they can tell you what radio stations to listen to for the countdown.

Not sure where you are staying in Orlando but take the Bee-Line east towards the coast and follow the signs with the shuttle on them to Titusville. While there go have lunch or dinner at Dixie Crossroads on Garden Street and get the Rock Shrimp. A shuttle launch is an incredible thing to see and feel (the ground will shake under your feet a minute or so after it lifts off) and not to be missed.

While in Titusville you can see the general crappiness of the town and why I got the hell out of there when I could but the launch and lunch will make up for the crappy surroundings.

One thing to remember is that they can scrub the launch in the last seconds if something goes wrong or doesn't look right. On more than one occaision they have called it off after the main engines were lit and spooling up but before the solid rocket boosters kicked in. Once the SRBs light up they are committed to getting off the ground since they can't be shut off.
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:50 am

Quoting Kaddyuk (Thread starter):
Has anyone seen one before and is it worth the journey from Orlando to Kennedy?

Yes, I have, at least once, but perhaps twice, I don't remember. It happened when I was young (five or so, I think), but it was a blast (no pun intended), especially considering we went for a dawn launch. We took a break from our own visit to Walt Disney World to head up there. As I remember it, the travel wasn't bad at all, nor was parking or finding a vantage spot. If memory serves me correct, we were across some sort of lake/swamp/pond from the Center, but with a very clear view of the actual launch pad. After the launch, I remember doing some sort of bus tour through Cape Canaveral, but I'm not sure how accurate that is...

It's definitely worth it if NASA decides to go through with it and if you can catch it. But just be ready for a last-minute scrub or something.

Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 1):
It'd be great if you saw it, and i hope you do, just don't get ur hopes up!

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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:50 am

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 3):
Current launch window is the 1st to the 19th of july...

Crap... oh well, atleast i'll hope for a delay. Big grin
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:52 am

Okay, well, we've got a People Carrier so we'd be driving... I know that they can and do scrub launches at the last minute, however i'd be a fool if i didnt go along just for the small chance of seeing a launch.

I mean, its a rare oppertunity for myself ESPECIALLY because i'm british and we're too poor to go to space...
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:56 am

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 7):
we've got a People Carrier so we'd be driving...

What the heck is that? A minivan? If so, call it that. The yokels that inhabit Florida don't take to kindly to weird names for stuff and they might end up branding you a terrorist and hanging you from the nearest palm tree.  Wink

Send me an IM if you want to pass some dinner and sightseeing ideas on to your folks. Disney is great but there are other things to do there besides throw your money down the rat's mouth.
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:01 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 8):
Disney is great but there are other things to do there besides throw your money down the rat's mouth.

I certainly know there are, however we're travelling my cousin (8 year old girl) and she promised she'd kick my ass if we didnt go to disney EVERY DAY...

hahaha!

Seriously, i'll put a short email together for some tips. I've already been to disney in 1997. I'll be using the last 3 days of my hopper pass and then I'm done with that friggin mouse  Wink. After that, i'm currently scheduled to sit by the pool and get a sun tan. However i will get bored so i'll be looking for other things to do in Orlando besides spending over a hundred bucks to go to yet more theme parks... I'm still concidering going to see a friend however i'll see how it works out  Smile
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:04 am

I was supposed to be in Florida for the shuttle launch in January 2003. It was a last minute deal and we ended up in Jamaica instead.

Thank god I didn't ever get there!
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:42 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 4):
go visit Daytona and see the NASCAR museum at the racetrack.

No don't. Its sh!t. I went there a few years ago and stayed for all of 10 mins then left as it was really bad. We couldn't even go out on the rack tour either as it wasn't running that day.

Even the KSC museum is shyte too.

It way too dumbed down for kids/stupid Americans to be interesting. The best bit was the Saturn 5 building.

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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:50 am

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
Even the KSC museum is shyte too.

It way too dumbed down for kids/stupid Americans to be interesting.

Bugger off you pompous Imperial! At least we can put people in space.  Wink
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:04 am

Just stay in Orlando. If its a nice day you'll see it very clearly. I went up to see a launch WITH the car pass DeltaGator mentions and I still couldn't get close because traffic was so bad. And this was back when launches were more frequent.

Honestly, you are on vacation, you have limited time, launches get scraped very easily, watch it from Orlando. It will still be wonderful. I see it more than well from West Palm Beach which is 175 miles south of the cape.

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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:50 am

There hasn't really been a lot of talk about this launch unlike the last one. Well yeah there already has been a launch before this since Columbia but I would think I'd atleast hear about it on the news some. Hopefully they will have the launch live on TV.
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:54 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 12):
Bugger off you pompous Imperial! At least we can put people in space

Ha Ha, so could we if you hadn't taken all the captured German scientists at the end of WW2 !!!.

However with the money invested by SRB in Virgin Galactic, then we too might technically end up putting more up than you.

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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:10 am

I saw it go up last year. We could see it very clearly from our villa which was near the parks. Would be a hell of an experience to be up close. Hope it does go up!  Smile
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:56 am

The irony of all this is im in MCO right now waiting another 12 hours for my Martinair flight to AMS. Oh joy.

You can see the launch from Orlando if its clear, I see launches from Daytona Beach (rockets obviously because shuttle is not operating again yet)
 
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:43 pm

I'm in the Melbourne area which is south of KSC. We watch
them fly over the house from the back yard. The most impressive
launches are the night shots. Quite the light show.

The shuttle landings are pretty neat also. When the craft
reenters the atmosphere, you get about 3 somic booms
which literally shake the house.

BTW, the Orlando T.V. stations show all the launches live.
In Brevard County we have a NASA channel on the cable
system which also shows the launches live.
 
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:26 pm

Quoting Traindriver (Reply 18):
BTW, the Orlando T.V. stations show all the launches live.
In Brevard County we have a NASA channel on the cable
system which also shows the launches live

NASA TV also in Volusia County (Daytona Beach, Palm Coast)
 
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:24 pm

Quoting Kaddyuk (Thread starter):

Has anyone seen one before and is it worth the journey from Orlando to Kennedy?

See my comments below.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 4):
storms are forecasted for around the launch time then I'd think hard about going over to see it.

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Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 4):
I would make it a day and also go down to Cocoa Beach and visit Ron Jon Surf Shop (incredibly tacky but fun)



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 4):
Daytona and see the NASCAR museum at the racetrack.

I duno about these suggestion. Traffic will SUCK and going to either of these locations pre-launch could muck up the works unless you got to either one VERY early in the day and did NOT stick around long at all. Ron John's only takes ABOUT an hour or two at the most So I'd take that option IF anything.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 4):
Titusville right on the Indian River.

Also:
From: http://kennedyspacecenter.stores.yahoo.net/spshlastat.html
Alternate Launch Viewing Site-
U.S. Astronaut Hall of Fame
Space Shuttle Launch Viewing Still Available!
This specially priced package includes a launch viewing from the Astronaut Hall of Fame and a Maximum Access Admission to Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 4):
Dixie Crossroads on Garden Street and get the Rock Shrimp

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Damn good stuff, but on Launch day, I'd plan on getting there no later then 10 o'clock in the morning to have Lunch @ noon

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
a few years ago

Yeah, a LOT has changed since then

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):

Even the KSC museum is shyte too.

Your a pompus sod.

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 11):
The best bit was the Saturn 5 building.

This I have to pretty much agree with.

Quoting FlyVirgin744 (Reply 13):
Just stay in Orlando.



Quoting FlyVirgin744 (Reply 13):
I see it more than well from West Palm Beach which is 175 miles south of the cape.

I have a crappy picture of Columbia going up for it's last time. I took the picture from Miami. I think the only places in Florida that can't see the launch are a bit west of Tallahasee, even then I wouldn't be surprised if some of it was visable from Pensacola. Just keep in mind the further away you are the less time you will see it for and the longer after launch you'll have to wait to see it. In Miami it took about a minute after launch, from Longwood it was 15-20 seconds.

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 16):
Would be a hell of an experience to be up close.

That it is. Next Kaddy, you need to plan this well in advance and get the "Launch Transportation & Admission Package" or "Premium Launch Package - Launch Viewing Transportation, Admission and Dine With an Astronaut"
This is what makes the diference between seeing a launch, and EXPERIENCING a launch.

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 16):
I saw it go up last year

If you go to www.airspaceonline.com you'll see the best pic I got; taken from Forrest City Elemetary in Longwood/Altamonte Springs, Fl.

Quoting Traindriver (Reply 18):
3 somic booms

I only ever heard two myself, and that's what the media always reports. maybe your getting an echo?

Quoting Traindriver (Reply 18):
we have a NASA channel on the cable
system which also shows the launches live.

Brighthouse DIGITAL cable includes NASA TV. I don't have it anymore, but seeing as I plan on going to the launch it's irrelevant.

Kaddyuk,

The thing I would keep in mind is who 'has' to go with you. If you can dump the family @ Disney and venture out yourself, it will be good. If you have to take the whole family out it will be an afternoon full of tough calls and lots of whining.

Another thing to keep in mind is that while getting out the the launch area will be pretty easy it will EASILY be 3-4 hours before you get back to the Orlando Area after the launch.

If you want to EXPERIENCE the LAUNCH, it will be worth it. But if just seeing it go up is enough, stay in MCO or go to the Daytona NASCAR museum/Experience and watch the launch from there. Too bad you only have 10 days as hearing it come down is cooler then watching it go up (unless you are on KSC property).
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:31 am

Kaddyuk, just thought you'd care to know (if you don't already) that NASA announced today that they've set 1 July as the launch date. I don't know how firm that'll be, because that's only 13 days away and there was apparently some dissent, but there it is.

Here is ABC News' article.

Hope you'll be able to see it!  bigthumbsup 


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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:58 am

Quoting Airwave (Reply 21):
apparently some dissent

That would not go away anytime before this launch window expired.
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:02 am

I went to catch a launch in July 2001 - after an hours drive from Kissimmee, we discovered the launch was cancelled. The drive back took about 3 hours, as everyone left at the same time. I'd imagine it is a great experience, but accept you may be dissappointed, and be prepared for along drive back!
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:07 am

I was there for the one before the challenger explosion and for the one after a few years later. Its amazing, its so loud!!!
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:46 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 22):
That would not go away anytime before this launch window expired.

Nah, I wouldn't expect it to. I love the one quote in this article:

Quote:
During a poll of top managers, representatives from NASA's Office of Safety and Mission Assurance and the Office of the Chief Engineer recommended against flying until further design changes are made to the external fuel tank. Despite their recommendations, the dissenting managers ultimately didn't object to making a launch attempt, NASA officials said.

So, they dissent, but they don't object? Sounds like a lot of political cover-my-ass to me.  scratchchin 


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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:13 pm

Quoting Airwave (Reply 25):
political cover-my-ass to me

At least they get to do that now.
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RE: Shuttle Launch While I'm In Orlando!

Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:03 pm

I got lucky last July and got to see the last one launch. Pretty cool, and if you have a chance, go out to Daytona for a few days at the beach, and if it launches, you pretty much right there.
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