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50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:06 am

Nobody can ever understand how much you need friends until you really need them.. Last night, I had a major depression case and snapped. I ended up taking a bunch of Ibuprofens. I dont know why I did it, but I'm okay now... I'm sure most of you don't care, but for those of you who think your friends don't care, they do. And Charcoal does not taste good either. I don't feel 100% better, I don't even feel 50% better, but I think that with the support of my friends, I will get through this... For those of you who have seriously thought about suicide, I've learned it truly isn't worth it. I'm glad now that my friend saved my life.
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:11 am

Ouch  Sad I tried something similar, although, my mom was the one who helped me out...

Even though you don't feel like you need it, I recommend you get some therapy- it's well worth it, especially because depressions and anxiety attacks are known to come back, even if you feel fine now...

I'm glad you pulled through. I've been there and I know it feels like hell.

Feel free to PM me if you need to talk.

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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:12 am

Sucks for me then 'caus I ain't got friends. But then I don't get depressed.

OK being serious as always my dad had a friend help him out when he was suicidal. Obivously its a good thing to have good friends but then again I really wouldn't know.

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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:15 am

I think Cedar Sinai is the answer.
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:17 am

Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Thread starter):

At least your still here to cruise around A.net  Smile Anyhow hope your feel better soon. Friends can be amazing at times like this
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:27 am

Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Thread starter):
I'm glad now that my friend saved my life.

Indeed, great he did just that.

I think I've become way too much of a cynic to consider suicide, in highschool I sometimes thought about it but never got anywhere near doing it or telling anyone. Nowadays I have a sort of "pi** off" attitude towards anything that seems to be too much trouble to face it; those things usually bounce and come back in pieces that are easier to handle.
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:58 am

Quoting Jap (Reply 1):
I recommend you get some therapy

I agree. Although it may seem weird that you would need therapy yourself it is most definitely worth it. Most people that have a serious psychological disorder do not seek therapy when they really should. Go for it!

Regardless, you have a very good friend on your hands!
 
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:51 am

Look on the bright side, at least you won't have headaches for a while.  Wink

Personally, suicide has never even crossed my mind as a possibility. I guess that's just my personality, being an optimist, always trying to look at the good side. Hope ya feel better.

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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:10 am

Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Thread starter):
Nobody can ever understand how much you need friends until you really need them.. Last night, I had a major depression case and snapped. I ended up taking a bunch of Ibuprofens. I dont know why I did it, but I'm okay now...

I'm very glad your ok, it is not a nice situation to be so depressed that you feel like doing this. Anyone who says 'oh yeah just grow up and face life' has no idea what they are talking about when it comes to being that down. I've been really depressed and done things like this, its lucky I've got some great friends too. Hope you'll be ok now Smile

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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:03 am

Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Thread starter):
Nobody can ever understand how much you need friends until you really need them.. Last night, I had a major depression case and snapped. I ended up taking a bunch of Ibuprofens. I dont know why I did it, but I'm okay now... I'm sure most of you don't care, but for those of you who think your friends don't care, they do. And Charcoal does not taste good either. I don't feel 100% better, I don't even feel 50% better, but I think that with the support of my friends, I will get through this... For those of you who have seriously thought about suicide, I've learned it truly isn't worth it. I'm glad now that my friend saved my life.

While friends are important, I don't think a friend should ever have to be utilized in this manner between any two persons. While suicide is not an issue that is easily curable, going to what lengths you have to try to mend your issues and then bring your friends into it has only placed you deeper than where you started. I believe highly in out sourcing help to ensure that your personal live is not controlled by the opinions and actions of those who have to help/deal with your personal issues on a daily basis.

I am trying to be as sensitive to your situation as possible but at the same time, being the realist that I am, you need to really take a look at yourself. Coming to this board and saying "well everything is alright now" is a major sign that things are far from being alright. Think of this site as another form of medication. By bringing your issues into the spot light the attention that you are looking for is given to you. In the same way that taking a bunch of pills, only to have your friends find you. If you have no regard to your own life, at least keep your friend's emotions out of it. Having personally dealt with such situations from a "friend's" prospective, it is not only troublesome but leaves you weary about that person and personally troubled over such statements and/or actions.

While I am glad to hear that you are alright, I think it is time for you to utilize your friends and family in the ways in which they are meant to be used. Ask for help. Reach out to them. While they are there for you when you reach out, you need to take the initiative. The only person that put you in the place you're in is you. There are many resources out there. Here are a few;

http://www.save.org/
1-800-784-2433
1-800-273-8255
http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/


I wish you the best in your efforts to get help.

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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:32 am

I feel like a freak every time I say something about this but:

I can not take Ibuprofin. I have a severe reaction to it: schitzophrenia. I become very depressed, paranoid and hear voices. Ketoprofin was the great alternative and neproxin is good, too. I would check into that. When I go to the doctor or hospital and they ask about medical alergies, I say "Ibuprofin" and they don't bat an eye.

I am glad you are feeling better.

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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:39 am

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 9):
While I am glad to hear that you are alright, I think it is time for you to utilize your friends and family in the ways in which they are meant to be used.

UA, it sounds like you think friends are only for the good times. I think friends are for good times and bad times. Of course, if you are continuously using a friend instead of a therapist, yes, that could be unfair. But to say you shouldn't turn to a friend in a difficult time is to misunderstand the nature of friendship.
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:06 pm

Quoting RNOcommctr (Reply 11):
Of course, if you are continuously using a friend instead of a therapist, yes, that could be unfair. But to say you shouldn't turn to a friend in a difficult time is to misunderstand the nature of friendship.

The idea that I was trying to depict was that friends are to be used for help. Not to pick you up off the ground when you're passed out from taking too much of this or that. I am fully supportive of turning to friends and asking for help and looking to them for some form of guidance. I don't, however, support the idea that a friend can be there for you when you take a bunch of this or that. There's a fine line between the two and one that needs to be respected. IMO, these two cannot be friends without having to remember the time when so and so had to help this person from their attempt to take their own life. As I said, not only does that mess up your friends life and emotions, but it makes it even harder to be just friends after you pass this hard time in your life.

Let's say you get past this hardship and in 12-months you decide to have that friend over. You say you don't feel well and decided to take a few Ibuprofen to help the pain, as any normal person would. But then that friend is worried to leave to go home as he/she is afraid that you might down the entire bottle. That, IMO, is not fair.

Hope that clears it up a bit.

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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:11 pm

Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Thread starter):
Last night, I had a major depression case and snapped.

My advice, do not go pass go and collect $200. You need to see a professional as soon as possible. I see by your profile that you are quite young, whats going to happen when life gets tougher as you get older. Get help now.
 
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:21 pm

Good points UAL777222,
The problem is that friends won't give an objective opinion on someones depression. They tend to say whatever they may in hopes it might give a quick fix to someones problems. But they may also be doing more harm than good becuase they're afraid of saying something that might upset the person in need. Pushing aside professional help is also sign of insecurity which is another thing that needs dealing with. There are stages of depression that person needs to through, and by resisting the progression, they're only making harder rehabilitate themselves. He needs to seek therapy and quickly before passing the point of no-return. But posting on here telling you problems to virtual strangers isn't going to solve anything either.
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:56 pm

I see nothing wrong with posting personal things here to "virtual strangers". Some people may find it useful to put down in words what is happening with them while maintaining the comfort of a certain amount of anonymity. The only caveat is for the poster to realize the responses are not from trained professionals and may be of little value. But I think most members of this forum are sincere in wanting to help where the can. Obviously, professional help is also needed in most cases.

I still maintain that there is nothing wrong with coming to a friend in crisis. Many people don't know where else to turn. Younger people may not be familiar with professional resources available in their community. And you don't want to be a crisis junkie who is always threatening suicide and dumping that heavy burden on a friend. I agree that's not fair.

But the thread starter was lucky to have a friend who had a good head on his/her shoulders. I worry about those who have no friends and feel isolated and alone when they are depressed. They are the ones who may actually wind up killing themselves.
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:05 pm

Judging from your attitude on the situation both here and on your MySpace, its as though you want to attract the attention so that people feel pity towards you given your situation. You say "...I had a major depression case, and snapped..." there is no such thing as depression 'case.' Depression is not something to just come once and then never come back. It's also not easily detectable. You write in your open blog;

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Ok, For those of you who heard about what happened to me, I'm sorry I did it. I was so stressed out and upset, and just didn't know what to do. But I'm feeling some better now, and I'm (of course) out of the hospital. Chris, Thanks for being there man. And Colin, despite what differences we had, I'm glad you were concerned enough to offer to come to Milwaukee. Thanks to you too. I just want to say Thanks to everyone who helped me through this, and I probably have enough Ibuprofen in me that will keep me from getting a headache for centuries... LOL!! (Trying to add humor to a bad situation). Well, I start training tomorrow, so everyone wish me luck.

Last night is no less than 24-Hours ago. I'm surprised the hospital released you to go home given your condition in which you arrived and under the circumstances in which you were placed into that condition. It baffles me that you could treat such a thing, a thing that you did to yourself, with humor.

Tomorrow, the week after, a year after, no humor can come of what you did to yourself. Would AirTran feel confident given your situation? Do you think they want to invest money in training an unstable individual who treats serious situation with humor? Though you might be a CSR or Ramp Rat, your decisions could possibly impact those of 100's of passengers flying in and out of MKE. What happens if you show up to work and have a 'depression case' and decide to load an aircraft in correctly or jeopardise the safty of both your passengers and co-workers.

I HIGHLY suggest you sit back and take a look at what you have going on. With your attitude, things can only get worse. Seek help, please do, reach out, yes, but more importantly, find it in yourself to fix whatever it is that is going wrong in your life. Though we all want to see you get help, you have to want help as well.

I'm 16 for Christ sake. I have decided to take on creating a company that has received outside funding in excess of $250,000 all of which I'm expected to invest in my company with both my interests and the inventor's interests. I have dropped out of mainstream school and have placed the responsibility of completing 40 hours of work per-class per-week to that of myself in independent study. In the process I have become distant from my parents (to whom have a major stake in my invested company). Both have mixed emotions with my choices. It has come to the point that we have opted for me to become Emancipated. A process that has been hell. Not only have I lost my parents, but the support from family is gone. I have a twin brother that I am no longer permitted to see as I have chosen to "exit the family." I have had to come up with $20,000.00 that I don't have to spend, to place attorneys on retainer to complete this never ending cycle of court dates and paperwork. My girlfriend's father wants everything short of a stool sample from me to continue to date his daughter (long story, junk started by my mom within their family). On top of all of that I have to find housing as a minor, pay all my bills, make all my meetings, and still do well in school. While still maintaining my own sanity.

What do I want out of it? Some would say to dominate the world, become rich and famous, etc. In all reality, I want to get through school, go to College, Graduate, get a job, start a family. I wake up some mornings and say to myself "Shit, still?" But you don't see me downing pills to work away my emotions. I have found help through this process and it has only made me a better person. This situation that I am in is my fault. I should have thought out this process but if life were planned out where would the fun be in that? I have accepted what is going on and am doing my best to make the process as painless for all parties involved.

I don't believe in starting large threads anymore about my life, it's issues, and my pursuit to solve world hunger. Simply because I have learned this is not the proper place to do so. However, with this in mind I ask you, how hard is your life? What is it that is going on in your life that makes you want it all to go away? Is it your loving parents? Your friends and family? Things can't be that bad. And they're sure as hell not worth taking your life.
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:39 pm

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 10):
Ketoprofin was the great alternative and neproxin is good, too. I would check into that. When I go to the doctor or hospital and they ask about medical alergies, I say "Ibuprofin" and they don't bat an eye.

Maybe I should check into that. I never really paid much attention, but maybe Ibuprofen makes me depressed.
Thanx for the replies, and I am already seeing a psychiatrist, but will be seeing a therapist soon.
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:04 am

Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Reply 17):
Maybe I should check into that. I never really paid much attention, but maybe Ibuprofen makes me depressed.
Thanx for the replies, and I am already seeing a psychiatrist, but will be seeing a therapist soon.

That's good. The therapist will be the person who will be most important to you as you work to make sense about what has happened. It won't be easy, but therapy does work. Just be faithful to the process and stick with it. Most importantly, make sure you find a therapist you are comfortable with.

You were very fortunate, but most importantly, it has brought into the open the fact you recognize you need the help you are now getting. Just remember, there is no sin in that. And you're absolutely right. Friends are you're most invaluable asset. Just don't be afraid to seek them out in the future. Please feel free to E-mail or IM me if you'd like to talk.

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 16):
I don't believe in starting large threads anymore about my life, it's issues, and my pursuit to solve world hunger. Simply because I have learned this is not the proper place to do so. However, with this in mind I ask you, how hard is your life? What is it that is going on in your life that makes you want it all to go away? Is it your loving parents? Your friends and family? Things can't be that bad. And they're sure as hell not worth taking your life.

How dare you sit there and say that you're brand of suffering is somehow worse than anyone else's!? BR715 has not gone into any details about the whys and wherefores about what happened to him, so how do you know how bad things are? Based upon what you've posted, I'm more worried for you than I am for him.

Honestly, the only reason I'd advise against people posting personal problems here is they have to put up with compassionately challenged 16 year old amateur psychologists whose lack of maturity betrays the fact that they know absolutely squat.

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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:20 am

If things ever get so bad you think of ending it all, just think about what it will be like in a year: your body will be in the cold, cold ground and everyone who would have supported you feels guilty that you are six feet under. However, talking things out with someone, anyone, will affect fewer people and actually find a working solution to whatever his happening. And, in a years' time, you may be executive VP, parent, and nominee for person of the year.

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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:38 am

Definitely go to the doctor. This is something that can be helped. Mental illness tend to be a spiral where people can't deal with normal stress, have disordered thought processes because of the mental illness and then do stupid things that cause more stress so they just keep getting pulled down into it. It'v very easy for an outsider to say "Well if you'd only (stop drinking, don't date him/her, get your work done, fill in with whatever) you'd be fine" It's easy to do whatever when your brain works, you need help figuring it out when your brain doesn't. Good luck and get well soon.
 
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:23 am

BR -

Get professional help. Friends are good listeners and can step in during emergency situations, but you need someone who can look at your total situation - home life, medical history, history of depression, etc. - and make a clinical judgement about how to begin treatment.

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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:30 am

Good luck  Smile
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:24 am

Quoting Jap (Reply 1):
Even though you don't feel like you need it, I recommend you get some therapy



Quoting UA777222 (Reply 9):
While friends are important, I don't think a friend should ever have to be utilized in this manner between any two persons. While suicide is not an issue that is easily curable, going to what lengths you have to try to mend your issues and then bring your friends into it has only placed you deeper than where you started. I believe highly in out sourcing help to ensure that your personal live is not controlled by the opinions and actions of those who have to help/deal with your personal issues on a daily basis.



Quoting AirCop (Reply 13):
You need to see a professional as soon as possible.

Not everyone can handle therapy. I can't. I tried when I was younger and had some other issues, and was encouraged by the doctor to tell him why I did what I did. When I told him that it was something in my head that told me to do it, he threatened to have me sectioned. I have been for therapy once since, but that was more for advice on how to deal with a family issue.

I have been depressed for years and finally decided to go to the doctor in March last year. It's taken over a year of different medications for me to find the right one that finally made me feel better. Now I wish I'd done it sooner, but I just denied I had a problem.
 
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:29 am

Quoting BigOrange (Reply 23):
Not everyone can handle therapy

And that's because not all therapists are good at their job. Like in any walk of life there are good one's and bad one's.  Smile
 
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:32 am

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 24):
Quoting BigOrange (Reply 23):
Not everyone can handle therapy

And that's because not all therapists are good at their job

Also some people are not open minded when it comes to therapy
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:39 am

Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Thread starter):

BR715-A1-30,

50 Ibuprofens wouldn't kill you anyway. It would just cause massive internal bleeding causing a projectile heamorage and eventually you would choke to death on your own blood.

Not a nice way to go.  Sad
 
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:16 am

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 25):
And that's because not all therapists are good at their job

Also some people are not open minded when it comes to therapy

When it comes to mental health, there are very few absolutes, and an incalculable number of variables.

Yes, psychotherapy may not work in all instances. A major example is someone suffering from PTSD. That being said, however, for it to work one has to first have a therapist they are comfortable with, and secondly, they themselves have to be faithful to the process. This does not come automatically, and may need a fair bit of time in which to build trust before the real work can be done. A third factor is an increasing comfort level with being vulnerable in front of another which is crucial for "detoxifying" some of one's experiences and the emotions that have historically been attached to them.

In short, psychotherapy is not a quick fix, and can sometime take up to several years. It has been shown to be successful, but not in every case, and it is important to have professionals who know the difference.

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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:20 am

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 16):
I'm 16 for Christ sake. I have decided to take on creating a company that has received outside funding in excess of $250,000 all of which I'm expected to invest in my company with both my interests and the inventor's interests. I have dropped out of mainstream school and have placed the responsibility of completing 40 hours of work per-class per-week to that of myself in independent study. In the process I have become distant from my parents (to whom have a major stake in my invested company). Both have mixed emotions with my choices. It has come to the point that we have opted for me to become Emancipated. A process that has been hell. Not only have I lost my parents, but the support from family is gone. I have a twin brother that I am no longer permitted to see as I have chosen to "exit the family." I have had to come up with $20,000.00 that I don't have to spend, to place attorneys on retainer to complete this never ending cycle of court dates and paperwork. My girlfriend's father wants everything short of a stool sample from me to continue to date his daughter (long story, junk started by my mom within their family). On top of all of that I have to find housing as a minor, pay all my bills, make all my meetings, and still do well in school. While still maintaining my own sanity.

What do I want out of it? Some would say to dominate the world, become rich and famous, etc. In all reality, I want to get through school, go to College, Graduate, get a job, start a family. I wake up some mornings and say to myself "Shit, still?" But you don't see me downing pills to work away my emotions. I have found help through this process and it has only made me a better person. This situation that I am in is my fault. I should have thought out this process but if life were planned out where would the fun be in that? I have accepted what is going on and am doing my best to make the process as painless for all parties involved.

I don't believe in starting large threads anymore about my life, it's issues, and my pursuit to solve world hunger. Simply because I have learned this is not the proper place to do so. However, with this in mind I ask you, how hard is your life? What is it that is going on in your life that makes you want it all to go away? Is it your loving parents? Your friends and family? Things can't be that bad. And they're sure as hell not worth taking your life.

That's nothing but a petty, bitchy diatribe from someone who seems to get his rocks off on the suffering of others.
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:00 am

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 16):


He came here for support from fellow a.netters
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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:23 am

50 Ibuprofens? Erm. That is a cry for help, for sure and I hope you realize that suicide is *not* the solution. However I have to point out that it is kind of like trying to perform hara-kiri with 50 needles.

You'll feel pretty darn bad, but you'd have to have a really dodgy liver if you're going to kill yourself like that.

That said, try to be a better person, take one day at a time. Being better makes you feel better. The first step is hard and it will take years, but it is worth it. The world will turn.

cheers

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RE: 50 Ibuprofens And A Friend

Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:03 pm

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 10):
I can not take Ibuprofin. I have a severe reaction to it: schitzophrenia.

I'll just raise a point here- I am in NO WAY doubting your story or thinking you're a liar...

Schizophrenia is a cronic disorder, not something you can get from time to time, and then, suddenly not have it...

Is it a schizoid/schizotypical psychosis you get?

I'm very interested in this as I've also been prone to schizotypical psychosises. And I DO take ibuprofen from time to time. I'd rather stop doing this if it can cause this kind of problem...
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