baylorairbear
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Motorcycle Crash

Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:10 pm

You gotta watch this video. The only info I have is that it happened in Mexico. There is no sound.

http://www.virob.com/virob/videos/701.html
You have to click "click to view content" in the middle of the page.

Does anyone have any knowledge of this accident?

Thanks,
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skidmarks
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RE: Motorcycle Crash

Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:35 pm

Phew!! Scary stuff. Did that guy deliberately run into the biker?

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TedTAce
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RE: Motorcycle Crash

Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:36 pm

That's effing brutal. Though I STRONGLY doubt it, I hope the bikers are ok, and the SUV driver got/gets his just deserts. Not that a helmet would do you any good with a 5+ ton SUV running you over, it certainly wouldn't hurt. That's why I will alway wear mine when there is anything bigger then my motorcycle is with me on the road or with access to the road I am on.
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RE: Motorcycle Crash

Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:18 pm

How come there were two cameras zoomed on the bike that got hit at the same second?


Weird.

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RE: Motorcycle Crash

Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:47 am

I'm a biker and I have mixed feelings after watching this.

No helmet = stupid
Riding in a bunch slowly = stupid and inconsiderate

However that doesn't justify the actions of the car driver. I see it regularly here that box drivers get really impatient when motorcycles either ride too fast or ride too slow. Sometimes bikers are their own worst enemy.
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RE: Motorcycle Crash

Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:04 am

I was not there, nor have I got any prior knowledge of that accident. But I think this was not intentional.

This seems to have been a pre-arranged camera shoot of these motor cycles (note there are two angles including head-on). I think it is reasonable to assume that there was a flood light on used on the head-on shot.

The car driver might have been distracted by it, and thus by not paying attention at what was immediately in front of him. Similar to how tailbacks happen near accident sites, people pay more attention to the flashing blue lights ahead, then to the brake lights in front.
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baylorairbear
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RE: Motorcycle Crash

Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:19 am

To me, it looks like the driver of the SUV was running from something. You can see him travelling at a much higher rate of speed, try to maneuver smoothly between the two vehicles behind the bikes, then cut the corner at the intersection.

All speculation of course.

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RE: Motorcycle Crash

Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:27 pm

Hi guys. This unfortunate event actually made it big in the news on most Latin-American countries last year.

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Thread starter):
The only info I have is that it happened in Mexico.

On May 5, 2005, the production team of Sólo Para Mujeres suffered a tragedy when, during the filming of a video at a Mexico City street, a man who was allegedly driving over the speed limit drove into the scene and crashed his car against the motorcycles used by five members of the Sólo Para Mujeres play, killing actor Edgar Ponce and injuring three others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B3lo_para_Mujeres

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 1):
Did that guy deliberately run into the biker?

Pretty much. And I remember watching the footage when the camera man gets to the car, the driver was just standing there talking on his cell phone like nothing happenned, car crashed against the side of the street. IIRC the guy was "slightly" drunk.

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 2):
Not that a helmet would do you any good with a 5+ ton SUV running you over,

Well there's a better video (with sound too) here at http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...99892693947820&q=solo+para+mujeres

it was actually a 4-dr sedan. Not that a couple tons would make much of a difference though.

Quoting Kay (Reply 3):
How come there were two cameras zoomed on the bike that got hit at the same second?

The bikers were actually actors that performed this semi-striptease show "Only for Women" and they were either going to or coming from one of their performances and were shooting some motorcycle videos.

Btw I saw something -somehow- similar to this last year. It was around 11:30 pm, I was walking home from my friend's house, about 2 blocks from mine. As I approach the sidewalk across the street from my house I hear a loud motorcycle engine. There's this mile-long strecth road that ends up in a weird curve, is not really a curve is just a "displaced straight line". So I stare at it because the guy was coming way too fast and sometimes drivers would miss the curve and hit the sidewalk posts in the other side designed for such matter. So as the guy comes over the curve he's still fast- really fast - so he "opens up" a lot in the curve. Next thing I know a car came out of nowhere and the motorcycle ran into it - right on the left front tire. BOOM! The guy literally flew away and landed straight on his back in the middle of the street -behind- the car he had just hit. The motorcycle rather "bounced" from the impact with the car. No helmet, no nothing. Btw, this was a Kawasaki dirtbike. If he just had entered the curve as little as 1 or 2 seconds before than it actually did, he would've hit the car head on, probably landing head first against the pavement with quite a launch. And if another car had followed the one he hit, he would've been run over, no doubt about it. And the guy, with just a couple of scracthces here and there, stands up and walks rather hurt. It was just not his day, but I was quite impressed. I mean, I had the bike in sight for about 15 seconds before it hit the car, and I was just standing there, 100 feet away, staring at it, watching every moment since he is doing alright in the street until he is laying on the floor right in front on me as I run towards him. And the fact that the results could have been much, much worse.

Anyone else with some experiences?


Oh well back in the topic I am pretty familiar with this crash, so feel free to ask anything at least I can look information in spanish for you.

Be safe and wear them helmets.
 
baylorairbear
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RE: Motorcycle Crash

Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:10 pm

Thanks, 6CR!

The video link you provided it much better.

It looks like the driver of the car might have noticed a split second before impact, at which point, of course, it's too late.

I would like to note that, according to the article, the driver had alsohol on his breath, and the motorcyclists were where they shouldn't have been, and they had no permits for filming. This is a perfect example of the little mistakes leading to a disaster.

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RE: Motorcycle Crash

Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:08 pm

i posted the video on a motorcycle forum that i am a member of. The replies indicated that this was a real accident, and the some guys died as a result of it.

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