seb146
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Help Me Define Something

Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:59 pm

Yesterday, I was listening to Fresh Air with Terry Gross. The reason I was listening to that particular program is a whole other story. She was interviewing a lawyer who represented two detainees at Guantanamo who were released. She also interviewed council for the Bush administration. After listening to the whole show, I have a question:

What is the difference between 'Prisoner of War' and 'enemy combatant'? Using World War Two as an example, I would classify Nazi brownshirts and SS officers as enemy combatants because they were fighting against the Allies. After they were detained, they became Prisoners of War.

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RichardPrice
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RE: Help Me Define Something

Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:15 am

US Congress defines 'Enemy Combatant' as thus:

Quote:

(8) The term 'enemy combatant' has historically referred to all of the citizens of a state with which the Nation is at war, and who are members of the armed force of that enemy state. Enemy combatants in the present conflict, however, come from many nations, wear no uniforms, and use unconventional weapons. Enemy combatants in the war on terrorism are not defined by simple, readily apparent criteria, such as citizenship or military uniform. And the power to name a citizen as an 'enemy combatant' is therefore extraordinarily broad

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1076.IH:

A Prisoner of War is someone who the requisite Geneva Convention applies to, in common terms and thus bear arms openly, have a place in the chain of command and wear a uniform.

[Edited 2006-06-23 17:17:41]
 
EasternSon
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RE: Help Me Define Something

Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:49 am

The term "enemy combatant" also allows them to be held for indefinitely without formally charging them with a crime.
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mrmeangenes
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RE: Help Me Define Something

Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:36 am

Quoting EasternSon (Reply 2):
The term "enemy combatant" also allows them to be held for indefinitely without formally charging them with a crime.

The hold involved is a non-criminal hold by military authorities , but has been deliberately and repeatedly mis-represented as a matter for the criminal courts to deal with.

Those who make this mis-representation often claim the detainees are being denied "constitutional rights" they clearly do not have.
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RE: Help Me Define Something

Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:43 am

Quoting Mrmeangenes (Reply 3):
Those who make this mis-representation often claim the detainees are being denied "constitutional rights" they clearly do not have.

Not only this, they generally have no rights under the Geneva Conventions either. If they want to be protected by the GCs then they can put on uniforms and we'll have a much easier time telling them apart from the good guys.
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RE: Help Me Define Something

Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:01 pm

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 4):
Not only this, they generally have no rights under the Geneva Conventions either.

None of the terrorist assholes or enemy combatants have a right to the Geneva Convention Protections anyway.

See Article 4 and then Article 5 for those definitions. They do NOT apply to terrorists or enemy combatants . . .

Quoting Mrmeangenes (Reply 3):
Those who make this mis-representation often claim the detainees are being denied "constitutional rights" they clearly do not have.

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