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Americans More Isolated Than Ever

Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:50 am

Americans' circle of close friends shrinking


Friday, June 23, 2006; Posted: 7:15 p.m. EDT (23:15 GMT)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Americans are more socially isolated than they were 20 years ago, separated by work, commuting and the single life, researchers reported on Friday.

Nearly a quarter of people surveyed said they had "zero" close friends with whom to discuss personal matters. More than 50 percent named two or fewer confidants, most often immediate family members, the researchers said. . . .


http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/06/23/friends.health.reut/index.html


Mental health professionals have been dealing with the fallout from this for the last 10-15 years, but it has skyrocketed since 9/11.

Does anyone experience this? What about in other countries? Do you know all of your neighbors well? Have you been in their homes? Etc.
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Newark777
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RE: Americans More Isolated Than Ever

Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:51 am

Sounds like they were interviewing a.net members.  Wink

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RE: Americans More Isolated Than Ever

Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:05 am

I'm of the opinion that it is all the fault of central air conditioning.

People don't sit on their front porch anymore in the evening to cool down and chat. So, front porches gave way to central air. And families became more isolated.

Throw in a spike in crime back in the 70's and 80's.

We leave our houses to shop and go to work. We count our friends on 1 hand.
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RE: Americans More Isolated Than Ever

Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:11 am

Americans work. Thats what we do. We sacrifice more "family and friend" time towards another  dollarsign  or two...
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RE: Americans More Isolated Than Ever

Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:47 am

Just the US way of doing things. It makes you the most productive people in the world in general terms, but everything comes at a price, obviously.
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RE: Americans More Isolated Than Ever

Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:53 am

The computer, the internet, air conditioning, too much time at and going to/from work, both parents working or single parents, needing to spent the remaining time with their kids, economic pressures all have added to this isolation. With less 'free' time, we no longer have the time for church or community activities that brought people together and offered opportunities for and maintain friendships.
The competition among employees at our jobs along with the insecurity situations many face at work kills off the opportunities for friendships there. The cost of housing in decent areas means we have to move away from where we had friends and extended family. The flow and mobility of people, with neighbors moving away and new ones coming in, with different ethnic, religious and economic backgrounds, adds even more to the isolation. In the 1950's, people lived in neighborhoods of similar ethnic and economic situations, like Italian or Irish and Roman Catholic while today, your neighbor may be Asian Indian and Hindu or Islamic.
People also value privacy more today and self-isolate to retain that, thus limiting contact with others. People don't want too much know of them by others and often may have situations that they do want others to know about them.
The range of entertainment available at home, larger homes, other issues mentioned at the beginning of this post, along with the changing attitudes toward alcohol has killed off many bars, social clubs, or situations where alcohol is consumed and contacts with people in the community. In my town, many of the bars are strongly connected with the Polish community and contacts by other Polish immigrants, with few if any bars for non-immigrant members of the community.
 
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RE: Americans More Isolated Than Ever

Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:09 am

I can count on one hand the number of close friends I have - and that's fine by me. I don't consider it proper to 'spill my guts' to everyone about my personal life or personal issues.

Furthermore - the word friend is often used way too loosely. Acquaintances I have plenty of, friends are people that have earned my respect and my return 'friendship'.

And, I'd prefer not to have to listen to the personal life stories of anyone else. First - I don't really give a shit. Second - it's not my business. Third - I can't do anything about it anyway.

Family comes first - my daughter and my mother. After that - my turn. After that - I don't really care.

Is that isolated? Naaa, it's personal preference.
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RE: Americans More Isolated Than Ever

Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:10 am

Quoting Derico (Reply 4):
but everything comes at a price, obviously.

Exactly. In my post...I said we sacrifice just about anything for a buck or two....I didn't say...which I should've...that it's not a good thing. But whatelse are we to do? The cost of living (at least by our standards...which are getting unreasonable) is increasing rapidly...but you still see Americans trying to live the same way we did five years ago...regardless of cost.
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RE: Americans More Isolated Than Ever

Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:46 am

Guess I'm a lucky guy...my circle of friends has been expanding ever since I got out of grade school in the late 1950's (except here on A-dot...point acknowledged, Harry).

Not to totally bash LTBEWR's (Rep5), but practically every point he presented is so much "excuse-trash-poll-media-bullshit" that I have a difficult time even recognizing the general thrust of the statement...UNLESS...of course it reflects his own personal experiences, to which I can only offer "too bad".

My experiences have been diametrically opposite of the "polls". Back in the late 1950's and now into the early 2000's. Know their name. Offer a hand or help. Watch out for them when they're out of town. Loan a tool. Recommend professional help or a good new restaurant or a mechanic that won't rip you off. I've always experienced the same, even in "today's" hustle-bustle bullshit.

To use progress as a "reason" for isolation is a phoney excuse. This typical "blame somebody/something" as opposed to one's own robotism smacks of the good, ol' "blame somebody/something" for evry other ill. Bullshit, I say. Bullshit. Look in the mirror before you rally away from your own personal failings.
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RE: Americans More Isolated Than Ever

Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:50 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 5):
In my town, many of the bars are strongly connected with the Polish community and contacts by other Polish immigrants, with few if any bars for non-immigrant members of the community.

Speaking of Polish bars/nightclubs in NJ, have you ever heard of the Navajo?

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RE: Americans More Isolated Than Ever

Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:02 pm

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 9):
Speaking of Polish bars/nightclubs in NJ, have you ever heard of the Navajo?

Er, are the Navajos a Polish tribe?  Wink
 
Newark777
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RE: Americans More Isolated Than Ever

Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:05 pm

Quoting Comorin (Reply 10):
Er, are the Navajos a Polish tribe?

No, a nightclub.  Wink

But that's an interesting though, tribes of Poles travelling through Irvington, NJ.  biggrin 

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